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Welcome to Rugby Mastermind - please take a chair; by Phil Gifford

Started by Just_win17 REPLIES348 VIEWS· 24 May 2015, 09:54
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 May 2015, 09:54
#1
24 May 2015, 09:54#1

In a perfect world, if you can answer all the following questions you deserve to be flown first class to Dublin to tell the people running the world game how to make it nearly perfect, stopping first in Wellington to help out the All Blacks.

Question One: An easy starter, close to home. What do you do to fix the crazy voting impasse on the board of the Blues, which could just as easily spread to every Super Rugby franchise that has private money involved?

You'd change the voting system to be the same as on every other board in every business, and every sports organisation, in the world? You'd allow majority voting? You'd cancel the loopy idea that decisions have to be unanimous and leave that to juries? Well done.

Question Two: How do you stop scrums collapsing all the damn time?

In New Plymouth during the week I watched New Plymouth Boys' High beat St Pat's Silverstream in an exciting First XV game. Hardly any scrums collapsed.

By a happy coincidence that night I was able to quiz two propping brothers (one from the game, one who has recently played for New Zealand secondary schools) who are related to my wife.

Could the scrums at higher levels become as clean and quick as school scrums? The rules are the same and everyone in the First XV front rows that day weighed at least 100kg. It seemed a fair comparison.

But, as both Reuben and Mitchell O'Neill pointed out, the rest of the scrummagers at Super Rugby level are much bigger and more powerful than any school team. The sheer pressure applied at scrum time meant, they felt, scrums in the professional game may have reached a stage where, despite everyone's best intentions, they teeter on unmanageable.

And while you ponder your solution, let's be clear that "not allowing anyone over 100kg to be a lock" and "make them like league scrums" are not acceptable answers. Good luck.

Question Three: What should the All Blacks do to make sure they don't lose at the World Cup on the whim of a referee?

The most burning tactical question for the All Blacks is whether they continue to try to attack with the ball in hand, or, given that every time a player takes the ball into a break down he's basically buying a refereeing Lotto ticket, they take on the boring, but effective, kick, chase and pressure tactics that yield better positions for penalty and dropped goals.

There were methods used at the breakdown in the northern Six Nations that looked to All Black eyes like cheating. One, where a player flies over the ball then bounces back up by thrusting his arms on the ground, even has a name, trampolining, and hasn't been penalised. Please tell us how the All Blacks get the better of the breakdown without being blown off the park?

Question Four: Would almost all the breakdown issues be solved if players were allowed to ruck with their sprigs? You answered, of course, yes. Too easy. So try this one.

Question Five: How the hell do you get even one parent to allow their kid to play a game where sharp little sprigs sometimes scrape their loved child's back and legs? If you have a sensible reply, you're a genius. I've spoken with All Black coaches and NZRU chairmen, and they can't answer it.

Question Six: Given that defensive skills and tackling techniques have improved out of sight, how do you loosen up defences and allow more tries?

Is a suggestion from left field, advanced by a great former All Black, as brilliant as it is basic? Don't allow tactical replacements so that in the last 20 minutes fatigue starts to play a part and players slip off tackles.

Question Seven: Can anything be done about the fact that every time there's a law change, professional coaches and video analysts all over the world stop sleeping for days on end trying to find ways to subvert the changes?

Finally, if that all feels too gloomy, go on line and look again at some of the dazzling rugby that a Chiefs team, battered and plagued with injuries, still managed to play as they blazed to their win over the Bulls in Rotorua. The Chiefs, as they often do, showed that at its best rugby can still thrill.

 - Sunday Star Times

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 May 2015, 09:57
#2
24 May 2015, 09:57#2
 On the rucking with sprigs, our mothers let us play back in the day so mothers today should also. 
The ref always inspected the sprigs to make sure there weren't any loose nails - admittedly I never saw a ref find anything wrong with the sprigs so that was a little suspect.
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
24 May 2015, 11:35
#3
24 May 2015, 11:35#3
 "every time a player takes the ball into a break down he's basically buying a refereeing Lotto ticket. There were methods used at the breakdown in the northern Six Nations that looked to All Black eyes like cheating. One, where a player flies over the ball then bounces back up by thrusting his arms on the ground, even has a name, trampolining, and hasn't been penalised"

Come on refs.

Another one used by the boks last year was at the ABs ruck, where one Boks player lies down as a kneeling or bridging stone for late Boks players arriving at the ruck to kneel on (appearing that they supported their own weight) and steal ABs ball.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 May 2015, 12:33
#4
24 May 2015, 12:33#4
Those dastardly Boks, always up to no good 
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
24 May 2015, 13:53
#5
24 May 2015, 13:53#5
 Question 3 had my laughing, don't think a kiwi would know a bad referee decision if it hit them in the face!
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 May 2015, 15:11
#6
24 May 2015, 15:11#6

Question Eight: How far back should an AB be able to drive a Bok player standing at the periphery of a ruck.....5 metres, ten metes?

 

Question Nine: How fast does the release from an AB tackling a Bok have to be, to be legal.....1 nanosecond, two nano seconds?

 

 

Question 10: What will it take to penalize the Crusaders head butt tackle?  A detached retina, a broken face, death?

 

 

And if you like there are more.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 May 2015, 15:36
#7
24 May 2015, 15:36#7
 Shezza 
Amy refereeing decisions going against the New Zealand team is regarded by supporters as bad decisions.  However, if it goes against another team it is a good decision.
Remember how McCaw nearly ook Louw's head of taking him out while standing next to the ruck and not actually being part of the actual ruck .  Louw was out for months with a neck injury - and the referee did nothing about it.  It was fine with the fans in NZ - but a serious miscarriage of application of the laws of rugby.
That is just an example of what I meant with the above.         
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
24 May 2015, 16:39
#8
24 May 2015, 16:39#8
 That 'clearance' on Louw was incredibly dangerous, those clearances where players charge leading with the shoulder as well as the tackles at the side of the knee's are incredibly dangerous and need to addressed for player welfare.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 May 2015, 17:54
#9
24 May 2015, 17:54#9
If I recall correctly the head-butt was perfected by Bak kies Botha on that innocent choir boy Jimmy Cowan 
Botha greatest hits
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
24 May 2015, 17:58
#10
24 May 2015, 17:58#10
And the right hook on a back-turned Gethin Jenkins perfected by Hore.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 May 2015, 18:08
#11
24 May 2015, 18:08#11
Good ol' Bismarck is the master, he even stomped on the chest of one of his own players . I would call him the undisputed champ.
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
25 May 2015, 14:47
#12
25 May 2015, 14:47#12
 Dont forget his Opthalmologist brother giving free examinations during games - Moores eyesight has never been better since his examination.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 May 2015, 14:59
#13
25 May 2015, 14:59#13
Bakkies was just nodding in agreement with something Cowan said. I'm talking about the Franks brothers head on tackle.....top of head rammed in the player's face. About as subtle as the look of innocence on the great Richie's face after he is caught cheating at the ruck.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
25 May 2015, 15:23
#14
25 May 2015, 15:23#14

 

Mozart, using that definition of "nodding agreement" a lot of opposition players "agree" with Richie & yet so many SA fans get upset with him

BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
25 May 2015, 16:35
#15
25 May 2015, 16:35#15
These decisions go both ways, so all sides land up on the receiving end at some point. However, one of the worst decisions I can remember off the top of my head was Brad Thorn's spear on Smit, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE REF! Smit asks "was that not a spear?" ref replies "can't be sure". Not even a card!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTCP9ldQLYE
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 May 2015, 17:12
#16
25 May 2015, 17:12#16
 Bluebok
I remember the incident - but who was the ref?  Was it O'Brien or Dickenson?  
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 May 2015, 17:27
#17
25 May 2015, 17:27#17
 Difficult to say Mike, I struggle to recognise him without the cane and labrador.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 May 2015, 17:30
#18
25 May 2015, 17:30#18
 
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