Well done Pumas!

A great win for Argentina over the All Blacks, their first ever win over them.

The Pumas were more committed, more accurate and hungrier for the win. They didn't miss a tackle all game and Nicolas Sanchez's performance was Hugo Porta-like. Skipper Pablo Matera and Marcos Kremer also deserve special mentions.

Not sure if the All Blacks were complacent but they looked a very ordinary side for once. The scoreline of 25-15 actually flattered them after they scored a late consolation try.

So much emotion after the game as the Pumas players, bench and management realized the enormity of what they'd achieved. Great rugby!

Just heard, miffed that I didn't watch it.

Bravo Argies/ but I won't chirp too much with horrid flashbacks of Japan & Italian catastrophic disasters.

I'm also "miffed" that I didn't see it...it must have been a phenomenal performance...and thanks for Cloudy being just as gracious in defeat as in victory.

The Allblacks will bounce back soon, but it's good for rugby to know that they can be beaten...pity my Boks aren't playing.

It's a good win for the Argies, an even bigger win for rugby and just like that we now have world wide interest.

Just heard about this, this a great result for rugby in general.

Well done Argies, finally got an NZ scalp and deserve to sit at the big table. 

They just need to follow it up with a win against Aus now. 

Kind of make SA look bad for not wanting to play. 

Although, wonder what the gap in the rankings will  be now. 

AB are have lost 2 games and one draw, not to mention the one they lost to Eng. Not a great 13 months and just proves that you can't rely on your own domestic competition to get players test ready 

For the people in SA - including me I must say - not having seen the game the game will be rebroadcasted  on DSTV Channel 2011 at 16:45.  

For the people in SA - including me I must say - not having seen the game the game will be rebroadcasted  on DSTV Channel 2011 at 16:45.  

I warned previously about the fall from grace that the OZ cricket team experienced after the Waugh era.

It took years but eventually they ended up using sandpaper on the ball just to be competitive. C onsistently found that early reverse swing in numerous tests serious, including The Ashes, leading up to the SA tour and then never again since they were caught. "We only did it once," they maintain.

Let's hope the Kiwis remain as gracious in defeat over the next few years as the slide continues. And let's advise them against falling as far as what OZ did.

I at last watched the game and there was a number of issues that bothered me.   Those are -

*    the BS's go on the wrong side of the ref early in the game for what some would call over robust actions - but could even be called dirty play - eg the Barrett flooring of an Argentine player 

*    the scrummaging and even line-out play of the AB's was not up to standard

*    the standout  AB players of the past  was non-descript - eg players like Beauden Barrett, Savea, Coles and Whitelock.

I know the AB's are  in a rebuilding phase -  but I find it strange that they have players like Jordie Barrett, Sam Whitelock, Coles and even Moody in the team.   Jordie Barrett is there on his family reputation and the other three are over-the-hill and on a downward slide.

I know the AB's  will recover - and am looki ng forward to them being really competitive - bit think it will take a few years to get where they were in 2019.     .     

They'll get worse for few years now, Mike. 

Whitelock and company will retire in the not too distant future too. 

Coles, if I'm no t mistaken, is a couple of concussions away from having to call it a day. How old are Smith and TJ now?

Who'll play 15 for them when Baudie inevitably has to go back in at 10?

Lots of changes and not really possible to maintain a high standard during such deep flux.

"Just keep looking at that avatar and know that you will never aspire to be someone as dignified and gracious as Jacinda"

Indeed some horseS are dignified and gracious in appearance.

Slags aren't ever.

So all the Rassie excuses  were just just hot air.....I thought it might take the Boks a test or two to be fully up to speed. But the Bargies have just shown a team with guts and purpose is always in with a chance.

Well done Bargie for showing us the real spirit of the game,

Do you ever think when it comes to rugby?

But the Bargies didn’t lose....they went out like men and competed. A gutless call by our coaches, they have preserved nothing and made losing to the Lions far more likely. 

First Rassie didn’t have the guts to go on coaching the Boks, then at the first opportunity he withdraws the Boks from competing.

I have no respect for this cowardice.

Mozart

Please stop your constant attempts to attack Erasmus - it makes you look stupid.   There are assumptions made by you that you have no proof o f,  

Dave

Mozart is lying again about the situation.   Erasmus was never appointed as Coach of the Springboks - he was appointed as Director of Rugby.   In view of the fact  that the WV was a mere 18 months away - it was agreed with SARU that -

*    Erasmus would TEMPORARILY handle both the Director of Rugby functions and the coaching functions until completion of the WC;

*    That a new coaching setup would be appointed after the WC; and

*    That Erasmus would identify who would be appointed.

The above was all included in the 2018 contract between Erasmus and SARU and the story Mozart came up above is total  BS,   

I by accident met Cobus Wiese this morning when he came out of the  Super Spar shop in Riversdale and he said that anybody discrediting Erasmus is a complete idiot when it comes to rugby,         

Dave

Mozart is lying again about the situation.   Erasmus was never appointed as Coach of the Springboks - he was appointed as Director of Rugby.   In view of the fact  that the WV was a mere 18 months away - it was agreed with SARU that -

*    Erasmus would TEMPORARILY handle both the Director of Rugby functions and the coaching functions until completion of the WC;

*    That a new coaching setup would be appointed after the WC; and

*    That Erasmus would identify who would be appointed.

The above was all included in the 2018 contract between Erasmus and SARU and the story Mozart came up above is total  BS,   

I by accident met Cobus Wiese this morning when he came out of the  Super Spar shop in Riversdale and he said that anybody discrediting Erasmus is a complete idiot when it comes to rugby,         

Vamos Pumas ¡our joy is immense. I've been waiting for this since I was a kid.

I am speaking especially to you, south Africans

As Argentines we have to thank you for giving us a place throughout these decades for allowing us to play tests against you or for integrating us into tournaments such as Rugby Championship or Super Rugby. .

At the same time, I must say that we have deserved your help. We are not newcomers to the RUGBY planet. As a reminder, we first beat Ireland in the 1960s, Australia in 1979, South Africa in 1982, France in 1985, etc, etc.

I say this to tell you that we still need you. Don't let us down. This feat against the All Blacks was only possible thanks to our incorporation into Super Rugby. However, we have just been kicked out of this tournament for reasons related to COVID.

We absolutely have to give the Jaguares a place in the northern hemisphere (PRO14) or in the southern hemisphere (Super rugby in Oceania).

You have every interest in the progress of Argentine rugby. This is the only possibility of bringing rugby out of its historic endogamy.

We beat the All Blacks. We have joined the very exclusive club of the 7 nations which have achieved this feat. It’s up to you now.

Welcome Felipe...and congratulations on Argentina joining a very elite club! ...and, yes, I hope Argentina remains part and parcel of South African AND World Rugby....with International and provincial/franchise rugby.

PS, it was a Combined South American team that beat the Boks in 1982 IIRC, mainly Argentinian, but technically not Los Pumas? Almost the same thing though.

Hi DbDraad

"We were at the gates of paradise …"

Judging by the weekend's result, you've made it in!

PS, growing up,  I thought Hugo Porta's team was called the Jaguars because of some anti-Apartheid political reasons...only found out about the "not 100% Argentinian team"  a while ago...still an Argie victory in my mind though, so I'll forget about the technicality for now. 

History and traditions...

Welcome Felipe 

I read something many years ago about the Welsh influence on Argentine rugby?

Do you know much about it?

All good Felipe

Do s tick around man. You might the first true Argentine on the site. 

Yes, we had an imposter previously...this is a strange place.

Haha

Look at the crowds in the Cape...much more diverse, but to attend and watch rugby in SA is expensive, so the representation you see on TV is financially skewed...the grassroots demographics will be more representative .