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What is Vilas doing as our keeper

Started by Saffolk 27 REPLIES1,473 VIEWS· 07 Nov 2015, 12:23
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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Nov 2015, 12:23
#1
07 Nov 2015, 12:23#1
The guy is poor behind the stumps and can't bat......and we have him at 6. Just watch him behind the stumps has a poor technique, is not athletic at all. Fuck me what a poor selection he is. Aged 30 as well.
To think that de Kock in great form is sitting at Home. I know the squad was selected some time ago but to exclude de Kock is plain stupidity. Much like excluding Rossouw and selecting average Bavuma.
The only positive is Rabada making his debut and bowling well and Elgar adding a real option as a left handed spinner.
The side should be:
1. Elgar 2. v/Zyl 3. Amla 4. AB 5. Rossouw/Faf 6. JP 7. de Kock 8. Philander 9. Steyn 10. Rabada 11. Morkel when all are fit.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Nov 2015, 12:47
#2
07 Nov 2015, 12:47#2
 Our biggest FU was playing 2 spinners, leaving out another bat. De Kock likes batting against india. Sellections lost us this one....still a poor pitch...shame on India.  
BL
BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
07 Nov 2015, 14:16
#3
07 Nov 2015, 14:16#3
And there I thought Amla is a test specialist. (*think* - run boetman run ) 
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
07 Nov 2015, 15:37
#4
07 Nov 2015, 15:37#4
 Amla reminds me of Greybeard.
Way past his best.....but determined to show he still has it.
Please someone let him into the secret.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Nov 2015, 21:30
#5
08 Nov 2015, 21:30#5
Rubbish, Amla is awesome, anything but past his best
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Nov 2015, 23:28
#6
08 Nov 2015, 23:28#6
Fartur being ripped by Humungous....a crack in the barking dogs. But riddle me this Humungous, which South  African wicket keeper blew an easy stumping chance in the semi, by missing the ball when he broke the wicket. ...thus setting up our exit   from the CWC?
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Nov 2015, 23:40
#7
08 Nov 2015, 23:40#7
Oh heavens we have Moffie talking about a missed run out that was explained to death but given your obvious cricket ignorance you were unable to grasp the facts and chose instead to pass over AB s missed run out opportunity in the same game that was 10 times easier.
A call as ignorant as telling us useless Vic never cost us the semi.
But let me guess ignorant old man you in your infinite wisdom would prefer Vilas as our test keeper would you. Dumb fuck
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Nov 2015, 02:07
#8
09 Nov 2015, 02:07#8
 Not necessarily Vilas....not sure he is up to it. But is de Kock? I would prefer a keeper who can catch a bouncing ball.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Nov 2015, 02:40
#9
09 Nov 2015, 02:40#9
 Still carrying on about the so-called missed run out opportunity - the stupid old fart is really the pits.   He never stop repeating the same disproved drivel he himself dreamed up as being deficient in a player.   Last I read he wanted van Wyk as keeper.  Right age insofar as he is concerned - the nearer to 40 the better insofar as he is concerned.   
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Nov 2015, 05:15
#10
09 Nov 2015, 05:15#10
Tell you what Tokkie you find a post where I said I wanted van Wyk as keeper.  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Nov 2015, 08:23
#11
09 Nov 2015, 08:23#11
 You go and see what you wrote when De Kock was out of the squad in the recent NZ series and was replaced by Van Wyk.  Then admit you were all agog about Van Wyk and attacking De Kock.   
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
09 Nov 2015, 15:49
#12
09 Nov 2015, 15:49#12
 "1. Elgar 2. v/Zyl 3. Amla 4. AB 5. Rossouw/Faf 6. JP 7. de Kock 8. Philander 9. Steyn 10. Rabada 11. Morkel when all are fit."
So, World Authority.....you would play four quicks on a recognized dust bowl....not even one spinner??? Seriously now, were you gesuip when you wrote that post!?
Going by your logic you would you then play 4 Spinners on a bouncy wicket.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Nov 2015, 19:32
#13
09 Nov 2015, 19:32#13

Look here ugly mug, we don't have any worthy spinners......hell Elgar our part timer looked the best of the lot. Same can be said of JP when he bowls


We don't have a worthy spinner, so yes my side sticks with Elgar and JP as my spinning options.


Find a worthy spinner and I might reconsider


Wake up idiot.....only a twat like you would select a spinner for spinners sake regardless of how good he was  

GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
09 Nov 2015, 20:08
#14
09 Nov 2015, 20:08#14
The pitch is a damn disgrace...not fit for any sport to be played on let alone cricket...the lesser pitches at my old school were damn side more civilized...an old pitch and a very tired one

Even the groundsman said...Daljit Singh, the head groundsman in Mohali, also said this was a 23-year-old pitch, a tired pitch. The square has not been relaid since the ground was built in 1992. There is every chance, if there was less turn, for the pitch to have veered to the other extreme. If this match ended two days too soon on a turner, we might have needed two extra days for a result on a non-turner. A Test match that is close until the early exchanges of the fourth innings, even if it ends in three days, is better than a boring draw. Also, as MS Dhoni used to point out, such a pitch, turning from day one, almost takes the toss out of the equation.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Nov 2015, 11:18
#15
10 Nov 2015, 11:18#15

It was a shocking pitch, but sadly we don't have the spinners to really exploit any form of spinning paradise.


Our two spinners are pretty average......Harmer hardly turns it and Tahir is hardly now going to establish himself at test level aged 36.


We just don't have spinners that are significantly better than our part timers like Elgar and JP. Hell at least Elgar is a left arm orthodox meaning he turns it away from a right hander.


Until we find a genuine spinner, we are better placed sticking to our strengths with 4 seamers and 2 part time spinners, for our specialist spinners are no more than part timers.


But the biggest cock up is thinking that Vilas is a test standard keeper - what a joke. Leaving the impressive de Kock out of the squad is criminal for now the side is stuck with useless Vilas all series. Cant keep, cant bat  

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
10 Nov 2015, 11:55
#16
10 Nov 2015, 11:55#16
 

"It was a shocking pitch, but sadly we don't have the spinners to really exploit any form of spinning paradise.


Our two spinners are pretty average......Harmer hardly turns it and Tahir is hardly now going to establish himself at test level aged 36."


Really?? Let's have a look shall we?


Simon Harmer(Spinner)

35 Overs

6 Maidens

112 Runs

5 Wickets


Equates to 3.2RPO

Wicket average = 22.4 Runs


Imran Tahir(Spinner)

26.3 Overs

4 Maidens

71 Runs

6 Wickets


Equates to 2.7 RPO

Wicket Average = 11.8 Runs


Philander

27 Overs

8 Maidens

61 Runs

3 Wickets


Equates to 2.25 RPO

Wicket Average = 20.30 Runs


Rabada

22 Overs

7 Maidens

49 Runs

1 Wicket


Equates to 22.27 RPO

Wicket Average =49 Runs


Wipe the Kak from your mouth.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Nov 2015, 12:48
#17
10 Nov 2015, 12:48#17

Look here you fuck wit, I'm talking overall record you dunce.......how about adding our part time spinners match figures as well, you deceitful prick

 

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
10 Nov 2015, 13:05
#18
10 Nov 2015, 13:05#18
 Talking overall record were you??? Is that a fact......you must be awfully confused. Why don't you scroll back to your above post where you specifically refer to Harmer and Tahir in a specific game Hmmmm?
Show me where you've made mention about players' overall record?
Suck it up you dope......you've d*ck'd yourself again.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
10 Nov 2015, 13:36
#19
10 Nov 2015, 13:36#19
 Here's a test of your decency.
Do you concede that Simon Harmer and Imran Tahir's figures were  impressive in the last test ?
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Nov 2015, 15:26
#20
10 Nov 2015, 15:26#20
 Concede Dave....denny has you dead to rights....you made a laughable team selection for Indian pitches. Concede, man you can do it. Be er ...oops big about it.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Nov 2015, 15:58
#21
10 Nov 2015, 15:58#21

Their figures were no better than our part time spinner, Elgar in the same test you profoundly stupid pair.


Which serves to prove my point......we don't need average specialist spinners when our part timers who can bat can do the same job. Had JP been fit, no doubt his figures would have been just as good.


My test side stands........game set and match  

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 Nov 2015, 01:38
#22
11 Nov 2015, 01:38#22
 VetvarkThere is no mention of Elgar in your original post, neither of the overall career stats of Harmer and Tahir. You were the one who singled them out as average in the last test, I was the one who presented their stats in the last test which proves beyond any doubt to be more than average, in fact their stats are  impressive.Your added stupidity to play four quicks on a spinner friendly dead pitch boggles the mind when our specialist spinners are more than adequate. The time has come to do some surgery on your fat lip, either that or your piggy looking eyes are letting you down. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Nov 2015, 06:52
#23
11 Nov 2015, 06:52#23
This is the old Duminy argument resurrected...you can rely on part timers. So in the WC we had Duminy and AB trundling down their softies. Dumb.  
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 Nov 2015, 07:14
#24
11 Nov 2015, 07:14#24
 Moz, have a look at our batting figures in both innings of the most recent test against India....our guys couldn't even scrape together 201 runs in the first innings to equal the Indian score, don't bother to look at our batting in the second innings.....clearly we lost because of poor batting. I don't know what the fool is on about having four quicks.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Nov 2015, 11:16
#25
11 Nov 2015, 11:16#25

Well obviously Elgar is not going to feature in my original post you fucking dunce......I just picked a side.....you were the ignorant twat who questioned my lack of a specialist spinner or two........Elgar featured in response......where I clearly pointed out that our part timers are as good as our specialists, so why bother with specialist and deprive yourself of a bat or two.


My evaluation of Harmer and Tahir is not going to centre on one game you idiot......I am not Moffie who has the gift of defining players based on one game - this idiot has now defined de Kock's keeping abilities based on a missed run out - failing to take into account the misdirected throw that effectively yorked de Kock on receipt, not to mention the skidding outfield......but given Moffie's meaure, he no doubt cannot rate AB as a fielder as AB missed a sitter of a run out in the very same game.


Back to the point, Elgar proved in the same test that he was just as good as Harmer and Tahir..........evidencing my theory that Tahir and Harmer are no better than our part timers.......but you are too fucking stupid to pick up on this obvious fact......instead you would prefer to play two average spinners at the expense of two of our class seamers. SA never play with two specialist spinners for a reason......our strength is seam regardless of pitch, coupled with the fact that we have no quality spinners. Do you think the WI in their prime would have played 2 spinners in India huh - NO, I doubt even one would have made their team.


Try catch a fucking wake up



SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Nov 2015, 11:20
#26
11 Nov 2015, 11:20#26

Ah yeah Moffie and it was clearly evidenced that JP had a marginally worse strike and run rate than our specialist spinner Pietersen in that WC......blowing your usual ignorance out of the water.


I'll say it again.......Tahir and Harmer are marginally better spinners than JP and Elgar.....but you like to back losers, so no doubt you would select an average spinner at the expense of a seamer or bat and sell your side short in the process.....its your way  

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 Nov 2015, 13:04
#27
11 Nov 2015, 13:04#27
 You don't understand....or maybe you stubbornly refuse to understand.
I wish I could help you.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Nov 2015, 13:28
#28
11 Nov 2015, 13:28#28

Denise provide the evidence of me saying.....where in any post have I said that Nonu was poor/bog ordinary/weak or had butter fingers


Lying scum  

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