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Whining and Booing.....but the Sharks prevail.

Started by Mozart25 REPLIES454 VIEWS· 21 Jul 2012, 15:32
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Jul 2012, 15:32
#1
21 Jul 2012, 15:32#1

Kaplan made a mistake awarding that last card, which wasn't a card.....after the crowd had been howling for one. And the Aussie commentators who were quite balanced at the start.....and appropriately meek at the end.....had a classic 20 minutes of finding fault with everybody, except the Reds. The nasalometer hit the red zone!

 

But the fact is the Sharks played a great game. Fine attcking in the first half and epic defending in the second. Almost every Sharks player was a standout......but the three moments of the match for me were McLeod's interception, Bismarck's superb one handed pass to Bosman and Ludik's brilliant tackle on Ioane when the commentators were already awarding the try.

 

I'm not sure any other SA franchise can produce this kind of display on the road.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jul 2012, 15:55
#2
21 Jul 2012, 15:55#2
Eloquently put Moz the nasolmeter hit the red. redsman was in overdive! Moz there is another franchise that gets wins downunder regularly but has a different style. I do hope the sharkies are not going to get too puffed up after this very fine win. Reality awaits them next Saturday where the life will be strangled out of them. Hope Duane is fit.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Jul 2012, 16:08
#3
21 Jul 2012, 16:08#3

Bekker could be a huge factor....the Shark's one weakness today was the lineout. That and the physical effort this win cost the Sharks.

GR
greenClub Pro179 posts
21 Jul 2012, 16:15
#4
21 Jul 2012, 16:15#4

Beeno, Mozart, the Stormers and their dull, boring defence-wins-all strategy aint gonna do it mate, cos this Sharks outfit are hell bent on destruction. These boys are playing like the Cheetahs on steroids!!!! Cant see anybody stoppping them...Shaaaaaaaaaarks!!!!!!

SS
Super SupporterRookie16 posts
21 Jul 2012, 18:10
#5
21 Jul 2012, 18:10#5

Agreed green

Great win for the Sharks, you go boys !!!!!!!

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jul 2012, 18:25
#6
21 Jul 2012, 18:25#6

Green its self destruction. sharks will bite the dust.

Hey snippet were is that army of mice you were squealing about? That we have survived thsi long is amazing!! Bwahahahahahaha

Can we expect the pleasure" of your presence here into the future? Enjoying it here?

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2012, 18:57
#7
21 Jul 2012, 18:57#7

Sasu

I warned you not to waste money on bets against the Sharks and I hope you did not lose anything,   The Sharks were all over the Reds today and I must admit they played a uperior all round game.   They were outstanding in both attack and defence.  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Jul 2012, 20:01
#8
21 Jul 2012, 20:01#8

Green much as I admire the Sharks win today, the Stormers present a different challenge.  It should be a brilliant semi with the Stormers still 2:1 favourites in my mind.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jul 2012, 21:43
#9
21 Jul 2012, 21:43#9

Moz I very much doubt it will be a brilliant game.  I nevertheless hope the Stormers grind out a win.

SB
sitting bullClub Pro170 posts
21 Jul 2012, 22:13
#10
21 Jul 2012, 22:13#10

....Moonbean good news...we might end up playing the rain puddle team in the final after all...sitting bull hopes the sharkies don't bite your bum like last time haha.... Crusaders and Mighty Chiefs are drawn on wins this season but anything can happen from now on....the best result from next week would be Mighty Chiefs versus Rain puddle team in the final as it is only proper that the top two teams who have dominated the log all year should meet in the final don't you think....

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Jul 2012, 23:14
#11
21 Jul 2012, 23:14#11

I agree .....it's fitting the top two teams should meet.....and that the top team wins.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jul 2012, 23:28
#12
21 Jul 2012, 23:28#12

Sitting bull the chiefs not playing this week has improved your mental state and I must for once agree with your sentiments.

Hoping the chiefes whip the crusties and we see you at Newlands in the final. You realise that spells doom for the chiefies  - a non warrior side.

Dr Moz is also right on the button.

sharkies have no chance of winning this.

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
22 Jul 2012, 02:01
#13
22 Jul 2012, 02:01#13

Yep, I really can't see the Sharks winning......they've played superb rugga these past two weeks but jetlag is going to undo them besides it was a bruising game. I'm tipping a Stormer win.

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
22 Jul 2012, 13:25
#14
22 Jul 2012, 13:25#14

If there is 1 team that fires the Sharks up the most, it is the Stormers. Sharks always lift their game. I predict a close game that results in the Sharks having to play Crusaders in Christchurch. Stormers are fading over the past few weeks, Sharks are just getting stronger each performance...There seems to be something special going on at the Sharks and I see them being too much for Stormers..2 great defences but Sharks will have it up front as they did a few weeks ago...

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Jul 2012, 13:38
#15
22 Jul 2012, 13:38#15

Boklogic lets use logic to solve this problem. Sharkies fly to oz fly back to Sa then ly back to nz. Waht chance do they have. surely very small.

Much better if stormers beat sharkies and then take on chiefs at home and win tilte etc. It is fitting the side topping the log wins etc. I am sure even sitting bull agrees with this sound logic.

 

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
22 Jul 2012, 13:39
#16
22 Jul 2012, 13:39#16

Beeno, dont be too sure of your Stormers..They are not capable of "strangling the life" out of the Sharks as you so confidently put it... First game this year in CPT ended up as a kick fest (15-12) with Sharks looking the more likely to score all game. The return match in DBN, Sharks dominated in all aspects of that game..Even the lineout with Bekker and Etzebeth in there. I am very confident the Sharks will be finalists this year. If they just play like they have been lately, there could be a 13+ victory on the cards.

SS
Super SupporterRookie16 posts
22 Jul 2012, 16:41
#17
22 Jul 2012, 16:41#17

Beeno1,

What army of mice are you talking about?

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Jul 2012, 20:30
#18
22 Jul 2012, 20:30#18

Snippet you squeaking up a storm and threatening to bring this board don with the arrival of a few blind mice from ss board. Hahahahahahahhahahaha laughed till my sides ached!!!

What is your ss board name oh mouse warrior or are you still to scared to reveal it?

CA
carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
23 Jul 2012, 12:07
#19
23 Jul 2012, 12:07#19

the stormers defence will crack and mix that with the tendency to choke if one looks at history for not winning any major cup in the past 10+ years then in my view its a open game saterday. just jet lag might come into play but there defence only style will not prevail. i belief if they can scrape past the sharks which i think might not happen if the sharks score quickly. the stormers cant chase a game. the sharks boys will be up for it i have no doubt in my mind. if they can manage to wip up the pace of the game. expect some attacking play from the boys in black. sharks does have the superoir game pattern and the better balance.

great game to watch on the weekend cant really wait

SS
Super SupporterRookie16 posts
23 Jul 2012, 13:45
#20
23 Jul 2012, 13:45#20

Snippet you squeaking up a storm and threatening to bring this board don with the arrival of a few blind mice from ss board. Hahahahahahahhahahaha laughed till my sides ached!!!

What is your ss board name oh mouse warrior or are you still to scared to reveal it?

You silly little moron.

I said that you should refrain from mocking all the other people as you continue to do, or you might not like the outcome.  Go and check your facts before you post.

I said nothing about this board.  It was a friendly warning to you in your own personal capacity.

Use it don't use it.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Jul 2012, 14:45
#21
23 Jul 2012, 14:45#21

Oh are you banking on nobody having seen your post threatening that 50 weirdoes from ss baord coming here and giving this board a blow from which it would not recover.

 Moron that was the silliest post I have ever seen!!

Look snippet  the guys here give and take banter and do not burst into tears not like some crybabies quivering and hiding away behind a banning button and spending their days as gossip girls. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

No lieing here please snippet.  You threatened this board, your bluff was called and now you have a scarlet face barely visible under all that EGG.

Wonder what other entertainment ou snippet has for us.

SS
Super SupporterRookie16 posts
23 Jul 2012, 15:16
#22
23 Jul 2012, 15:16#22

Beeno1

I shall rather leave this issue alone then.  You clearly know nothing of what you speak.  That was another poster who mentioned 50 whatever he said.

I have decided to leave you to your own devices. I know at least I warned you and gave you the benefit of the doubt

Good luck

 

 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Jul 2012, 15:20
#23
23 Jul 2012, 15:20#23

Do me one favour then - who  was the other poster sniper. I am glad at least you admit the threat was made.

 

GA
garethedwardsClub Pro240 posts
23 Jul 2012, 18:26
#24
23 Jul 2012, 18:26#24

I think a few more things should have been blown, if I am being completely fair. Bottom line is JP should of had a card, even he knew that. But, in typical Kaplan style there was a lot that was missed, including the try and then he tries to make it up with a stupid decision like the final card.

Unfortunately people seem to forget this is not the Sharks fault, but the refs. And they go looking for every infringement and then pretend the Reds played a completely clean game with no fouls.

As was said countless times over, the decision will usually go with the winning team. We see this time and time again and it is what it is. That’s the way rugby is reffed plain and simple, no need to cry.

 

I am looking forward to Chiefs vs Crusaders, here is hoping you get the outcome you deserved at your last encounter mate.

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
24 Jul 2012, 01:22
#25
24 Jul 2012, 01:22#25

@clevermike,

yeah, i lost $25 in the weekend , so u saved me $25 as i had originally planned on betting $50. plus another $20 on my other two multibets. but i did make $90 on zac to be ifrst try scorer in crusaders v bulls game, so i made a profit of $45 which will be going towards this weekends epic semis clash, so i will be taking any words of advice with serious consideration.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jul 2012, 06:42
#26
24 Jul 2012, 06:42#26

Sasu

I thought I warned you off the Reds strongly enough - but thanks for your comments.   My feeling the past weekend was for the Sharks and the Crusaders to win - but I was hesitant on both sides to preedict a 12+ win in either game.   The chances of a 12 plus win by the Sharks wer better than such a win by the Crusaders.   However, this coming weekend it is more difficult - but lets try again and base the prediction on facts.   

Lets start off with the prediction of the Cheifs-Crusaders game.   I was not entirely convinced about the Crusaders win against the Bulls.   The Bulls were despicably poor in their performance.   You would have noticed from this forum how mad the members were with the Bulls and their penalty machine contribution.   However, they only gave away one try - a very good one at that.   They also scored two tries against the Crusaders - one rather problematic sign.   One could say that the penalties resulted from illegal measures to prevnt further tries - but that is a guesstimate and may not be fact.   So despite the 12 point win - I was left unsure about whether they will manage to beat the Chiefs.   Second pointer is the fact that in the round-robin phase I believe the Chiefs played better at home against the Bulls than the Crusaders did last weekend.  Third pointer is the issue of the two teams performance against the Hurricanes - the Chiefs were to my mind the better of the two in thoase two games.  My gut feeling is that the game could go either way - but in this case I think the Chiefs will win.

Insofar as the game between the Stormers and the Sharks is concerned - I think the Stormers will win - despite the many positive pointers in the recent Sharks games.    There are a number of pointers in the relevant regard that could impact on the result.   Firstly there is the impact of the trip to Australia and back.   In the second half or the Reds game the Sharks - they ran out of steam against the Reds.    Whilst brilliant in the first half - they were under much more pressure in the second half although they defended brilliantly - and that I believe was the result of jet lag.     It will be worse on Saturday.

The next issue that I believe played a role on Saturday was the missing personnael in the Sharks team for the coming weekend.    Obviously they would not be able to play Francois Steyn in the semi - but the worrying factor is that it is unlikely that they would have Lambie, Jordaan and Du Toit available for the clash against the Stormers.    I was very happy with the performance of Ludig at full back - but when Jordaan was replaced in the Reds game - the backline wheels of the Sharks came off.   Typical was the falling over his own legs by Bosman when he received a pass with an open line in front of him.   If Jordaan was on - it would have been a try under the posts for the Sharks.    With both Jordaan and Steyn not available - it would be problematic for the Sharks in the center combination.   The other player they missed badly was Du Toit.    Although this guy is only 19 - he is two meters tall weighing 118 kgs - and he would have been a massive difference in the line outs in the Reds game.   Also very fast for a lock - he played at flank in the Junior WC game and a very good defender.   I rate both Jordaan and Du Toit very highly and think they are the Boks future stars.    The one is only 19 and the other one 20.    Both are at present struggling with injuries - Jordaan reportedly has a hammy problem and Du Toit an ankle problem.   I do not think they will be ready to play this weekend - and assume they would be out.

On the other hand it is likely that the Stormers at last will be more or less up to full strength this weekend.   The Stormers main problem this year was the absence for a  large part of Super 15 competition of their loosies such as Burger and Vermeulen and they even had to import Sinclair to help out in the round-robin games.   Burger to my mind is not going to play again - but I am a great believer in Elstadt and Kolisi is an excellent player.    I believe Etzebeth and Vermeulen will play thsi weekend.   I rate Elstadt - another 20 year old of the same size as Du Toit , very highly - the same as Etzebeth.    

With the full Stormers team back at last - you must bear in mind that the Stormers only lost two games this Super 15 games this year despite continuous injuries to key players.  Those were the games against the Crusaders - where they played a half-baked team - and the one against the Sharks.   In the latter stages of the competition I think the Sharks was the top playing team in Super 15 - and that includes the Crusaders and the Chiefs.   However, I do believe that the two trips during the past 14 days will impact negatively on them.

Under the cirumstances I predict Chiefs and Stormer victories in the semis.   

Insofar as the final is concerned I think that in the case of either the Chiefs or the Crusaders playing against the Stormers - the Stormers will beat them at home with a full team available to them.

May not be popular with the rest of the public - and bearing in mind I am a Shark supporter - I am suggesting the following bet - but not with any 12+ bet difference.   The Chiefs beating the Crusaders at Hamilton - the Stormers beating the Sharks and a final win for the Stormers.   Add to that Lerena winning the jokey championship in SA and the odds could be generous.   The Chiefs is 15/10, the Stormers is 5/10, and the Stormers in the final would be 7/10.   Lerena winning the Championship jockey title is 8/10   That would give you odds of about 8/1.  Incidentally if the Crusaders beat the Chiefs in the semi - the bookmakers will go senile and the favourites in the final would be the Crusaders if they have to play against the Stormers.    They also gave the Reds a 5,5/10 chance to beat the Sharks - hence my senile comments.

Let me make another prediction.   I am a very great admirer of Jordaan and Du Toit.   Jordaan is to my mind a player much like Conrad Smith - he is very brainy - but he is much faster than Smith.    Du Toit's grandfather was a Springbok prop - generally known as Piet Spiere (Muscles) - he outscrummed the All Blacks props completely - but was only 6'1" and weighed 96 kgs.   As mentioned his grandson is 2 meters tall and weigh 118 kgs - really a big and very muscular guy.   They are going to be in a future Springbok team and that would make life very difficult for opponents.   So watch out for those two in future. 

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