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Who is the best coach in the world?

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Oct 2025, 21:46
#41
07 Oct 2025, 21:46#41

See how the Dave lie has now been picked up and amplified by the liar Mike. Is this really the level of debate we want?

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Oct 2025, 21:51
#42
07 Oct 2025, 21:51#42

Plum no honest observer would deny that we have abundant talent and that our two fiercest rivals Australia and NZ are much weaker. England is probably about the same, while Ireland and France are better. But they are mostly WC opponents, years go by with no games against them….and at the WC they are burdened by lots of scar tissue. We play Oz and NZ twice each year.


The obvious conclusion is the current coach has a much easier job than the one 10 years ago

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Oct 2025, 21:54
#43
07 Oct 2025, 21:54#43

What lie would that be Moffie?

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Oct 2025, 22:33
#44
07 Oct 2025, 22:33#44

Well it could be one of the many you have tried to pull in the last few days Shorty, You figure it out.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Oct 2025, 22:37
#45
07 Oct 2025, 22:37#45

Fuck it old man just man up and tell me what lie I told you fucking pathetic liar


Grow a pair old man


I have owned you over the past few days - you are becoming easier to pick the older you get

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Oct 2025, 03:37
#46
08 Oct 2025, 03:37#46

Plum


There are the Bok old guard that he inherited. A big group of quality players just hitting their prime when he got them.


If there were BS spreading this is it; Many of the OLD GUARD players Erasmus "inherited" played rugby under whom? Give us the names dim cunt - but beware - you are in for a disaster and analysis are going to show that you have no idea about anything and is going to let you going to be shit in truckloads.



CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Oct 2025, 03:56
#47
08 Oct 2025, 03:56#47

Mozart


Plum no honest observer would deny that we have abundant talent and that our two fiercest rivals Australia and NZ are much weaker. England is probably about the same, while Ireland and France are better. But they are mostly WC opponents, years go by with no games against them….and at the WC they are burdened by lots of scar tissue. We play Oz and NZ twice each year.


Only shit instead of a functionng brian came up with the above BS. By the way dimness - according to the program of matches - in normal years the nations like Ireland and England have played against SA in the June and now July tests and the end of the year tests allowed for the the following system:-


The EOYT allowed fo SA to play three of the top six Nations to be played every two years - last year it was England. Scotland and Wales - this year it is France, Ireland and Italy. So how many years go by without any matches against which teams?


For heavens sake stop writing BS and lies on this site and hope to get away with it . Mind you - this is the mmsot idiotic rugby thread I have ever seen on site and with you and your lies around always reach maximum levels of rugby idiocy - this reach unbelievable advanced rugby idiocy level.


The only years when the Springboks play against weak teams in July are the years when the BRI Lions tour the southern hemisphere nations. Those matches are arranged by World Rugby to broaden rugby to nations that never otherwise play against SA or SH teams. This year the BRI wet to NZ - so Fance snent theri B Team to play against NZ. And such tet include th Pacific Island and against Japan teams as well.


How stupid can site rgby idiots really get? No wonder rugby idiocy reach their maximum levels?


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Oct 2025, 08:03
#48
08 Oct 2025, 08:03#48

"The only years when the Springboks play against weak teams in July are the years when the BRI Lions tour the southern hemisphere nations. Those matches are arranged by World Rugby to broaden rugby to nations that never otherwise play against SA or SH teams. This year the BRI wet to NZ - so Fance snent theri B Team to play against NZ. And such tet include th Pacific Island and against Japan teams as well. "


Wait wait wait!


The B&I Lions toured Australia and because so many of the French are in the Lions side, they sent a B teams to NEw Zealand.


Okay...I understand!?


LOL on the same thread that we supposedly spread BS.



CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Oct 2025, 08:49
#49
08 Oct 2025, 08:49#49

I made a mistake and the BRI went to Australia and the team France sent to NZ were in fact a B-team if you look at actual team selection. If you compare the team that won the 6-Nations this year you would find the differences as o the team that went to NZ. Even commentators called the French team sent a "B'" team.


However, the issue had nothing to do with Mozart BS claim that years go by wihout the Springboks playing teams like France and Ireland. As per normal you are totally stupid to supprt that idiocy of Mozart, But then youa re eqqually stupid by caimig that Erasmus did not select shit that you wanted selected.


If Esterhuien played n Satiruday he French would have run past Estehuizen sicne he has s slow action ebc ause he is physically and mentally too slow to react to the cleverer and pacier players that played in the Argentine team.


Fact si I am looking forwrd to the URC performance of Esterhuizen. Last season he ws shit and expect the same to happen this year. I never agree with virtually everything White ever cae up wit and that was hi decision to move sterhuizen o flank forward in Super Rugby where he was even worse than he was at center.


Both tries Esterhuizen scored in test Rugby was gifted to him by Du Toit - who off-lodaed to him with no defenders never be present, - th same with the second try by Willemsse off-loaded to him with only the worse Defender in AB rugby to beat - B Barrett,


Just a question has you found out why Du Toit was outside the wing afer you accused him of doing that?"



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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Oct 2025, 11:27
#50
08 Oct 2025, 11:27#50

Silence from Moffie - shock shock

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Oct 2025, 15:22
#51
08 Oct 2025, 15:22#51

"If Esterhuien played n Satiruday he French would have run past Estehuizen sicne he has s slow actioned ebc ause he is physically and mentally too slow to react to the cleverer and pacier players that played in the Argentine team."


France, again! Have you been drinking?


"Both tries Esterhuizen scored in test Rugby was gifted to him by Du Toit - who off-lodaed to him with no defenders never be present, - th same with the second try by Willemsse off-loaded to him with only the worse Defender in AB rugby to beat - B Barrett,"


1) PSDT offloaded to Kwagga for the try...not Esterhuizen.


2) AE kept up with two of the fastest players on the pitch to finish off the try after WILLIAMS made the final pass to him - I guess you want AE to apologies for this?


3) AE made the Kolbe try, at a crucial time in minute 43, to give the Boks the lead and the momentum to start the half. That Kobe try was the turning point of the game, and it was AE that made it.


Mike you are too clueless to argue with. You don't seem to know what you are talking about and can't get basic facts right, yet accuse us of spreading BS.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Oct 2025, 15:32
#52
08 Oct 2025, 15:32#52

Saffolk Hall Of Famer

29,678 posts

Oct 08, 2025, 11:27



Silence from Moffie - shock shock



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The silence of a man asleep dear boy. I know you are very stupid, too low in IQ to even practice basic law, so let me explain. The earth rotates, so when you wake up I’m still asleep.


Now you are asking what lie I was referring to…..there is a copious amount of but I assume on this string you are referring to this lie:


Saffolk Hall Of Famer

29,678 posts

Oct 07, 2025, 12:10



Saying the current Bok side does not need a coach is not only the stupidest thing ever said it also shows how low Moffie is diving to try discredit Rassie - this is beyond desperate


In response to this statement of mine:


MozartHall Of Famer

46,849 posts

Oct 07, 2025, 15:44



Once again you lie….you are getting as bad as Clever Mike. You know perfectly well I limited that statement to only the Bargies…..I said we could beat the Bargies without a coach and that’s all. Your lying is beyond desperate, it’s the feeble response of a stupid man.

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The lie is obvious I tried to dramatize how much better our talent is by saying we could beat the Bargies without a coach….and you twisted the statement to claim I was saying the Boks don’t need a coach.


Totally dishonest….that lie.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Oct 2025, 15:40
#53
08 Oct 2025, 15:40#53

Moffie your stupidity has no limit


There is ZERO lie there


Try again you fucking lying old man

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Oct 2025, 15:48
#54
08 Oct 2025, 15:48#54

So saying a team could beat a weak team without a coach….is the same as saying a team never needs a coach regardless of the opposition.


You pathological liars always amaze me. You lie and you know that you are lying, and you know I know you know you are lying….but you lie anyway as if it’s a badge of honor.


Low IQ and no self respect.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Oct 2025, 15:58
#55
08 Oct 2025, 15:58#55

Mozart


Wh en a re ou going to apologize for the following, skunkshit:-


Plum no honest observer would deny that we have abundant talent and that our two fiercest rivals Australia and NZ are much weaker. England is probably about the same, while Ireland and France are better. But they are mostly WC opponents, years go by with no games against them….and at the WC they are burdened by lots of scar tissue. We play Oz and NZ twice each year.




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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Oct 2025, 16:08
#56
08 Oct 2025, 16:08#56

Why would I apologize for the truth?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Oct 2025, 16:12
#57
08 Oct 2025, 16:12#57

Because it is a lie skunkshit The lie "never" in the above quote turns it into a lie/

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Oct 2025, 16:12
#58
08 Oct 2025, 16:12#58

Vet Kabouter

Dawie die Kabouter


...and now Dishonest Dawie die Vet Kabouter


Honestly, just stop , Dave! I'm struggling to fit all these features and traits into one name.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Oct 2025, 16:24
#59
08 Oct 2025, 16:24#59

What I know is their is a real user anme for you and that is plumliar.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Oct 2025, 16:27
#60
08 Oct 2025, 16:27#60

What is a lie….unpack the lie. Over to you, but do try to not get confused with other strings.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Oct 2025, 17:01
#61
08 Oct 2025, 17:01#61

Buttplug do us a favour and remove yourself from Moffie’s arse - could you be any further up it


Sad fuck

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Oct 2025, 17:04
#62
08 Oct 2025, 17:04#62

Moffie you are lying - I never ever said regardless of the opposition - I’m sure the Boks could beat Norway without a coach


By your argument you are implying Argentina and Scotland are weak


Good work there IQ man


You stupid old fart - give it up man, your drubbing is becoming beyond embarrassing

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Oct 2025, 17:07
#63
08 Oct 2025, 17:07#63

Dave, when you have to completely twist and distort what the other person is saying in order to tread water in a debate...then you've already drowned.


You know that, right?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Oct 2025, 17:39
#64
08 Oct 2025, 17:39#64

Skunkshit you said the whole story about Ireland and France being improved and added that the Springboks only face them in RWC and NEVER plaed them in between RWC's - which is a LIE and you should realise it is one. We Play both teams outside of the RWC competitions, But they are mostly WC opponents, years go by with no games against them.


If you do not undestand English and deviously want to wiggle out of your lie - it is your problem and confirm yo are skunkshit.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Oct 2025, 17:43
#65
08 Oct 2025, 17:43#65

Dumb Plum


There are the Bok old guard that he inherited. A big group of quality players just hitting their prime when he got them.


I asked you for he names of the Old Guard players Easmus inherited, So you duck and diive not to provide he names Dumbo? Give us the names please.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Oct 2025, 17:44
#66
08 Oct 2025, 17:44#66

"Skunkshit you said the whole story about Ireland and France being improved and added that the Springboks only face them in RWC and NEVER plaed them in between RWC's - which is a LIE and you should realise it is one. We Play both teams outside of the RWC competitions, But they are mostly WC opponents, years go by with no games against them."


Another lie from Mike.


My word, you guys are on fire today.



AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
08 Oct 2025, 17:47
#67
08 Oct 2025, 17:47#67

Not knocking Erasmus but he has benefited from a more experienced and larger selection of great powerful forwards, fast and dependable wingers and above all a few excellent #9's and 10's especially Williams, Zulu and Pollard.


In general the junior teams in the past few years have produced exceptional players and in numbers which will benefit SA rugby today and in the future.


Erasmus has coached the Boks to two world cups and I honestly hope that he can make it three RWC's for the Boks.


I can still recall the 1995 RWC win lead by a another great coach.


Onward and Forward to the next RWC.







MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Oct 2025, 18:02
#68
08 Oct 2025, 18:02#68

Painfully Dumb Mike…..what I said is we play Oz and NZ twice each every year and we often never play France or Ireland.


In the 5 years since 2021 we have played NZ 10 times, Oz 9 times, Ireland 4 times and France 2 times, we will play them again in a few weeks, so 3 times by the end of the year.


That means 19 games against teams that have declined since 10 years ago and 7 games against teams that have improved. It’s obvious the competitive picture is much easier now, without even factoring in Ireland and France not having won a WC.


Now it’s fine to misunderstand, you are clearly in your dottage, just try not get things horribly wrong and be insulting at the same time,


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Oct 2025, 22:08
#69
08 Oct 2025, 22:08#69

Awe Buttplug kindly point out what I have twisted you pathetic sad suck up

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Oct 2025, 00:11
#70
09 Oct 2025, 00:11#70

Mozart


You said NEVER in youe Skunkxhit manner. NEVER means NEVER and then you say sonmehing that you onkw which is skunkshit so you come up with info which meant NEVER means in your book how many tmes teams will play South Africa.


Devious conduct like happened in this case is just the way you try to get out of an obvious lie and disto r tion on your part, UNBELIEVABLE.


There is one thing you twisted beyond belief. World Rugby decide on all tests to be played, the Rugby Championship is an annual competition the November tournaments also are on a fixed basis - an example being that SA in 2025 played Scotland Ebglish and Wales - this year it is Ireland, France and Italy. New Zealand, Australia and Argentina has similar schedules, So why is Erasmus be blamed for avoiding teams they neve played.


In effect their is no excuse it SA do not play matches against countries as you implied, In essense you were indeed spreading Skunkshit,


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Oct 2025, 00:39
#71
09 Oct 2025, 00:39#71

Wrong LiarMike….you copied what I said which was this:


But they are mostly WC opponents, years go by with no games against them.


Since Covid we never played France in 2021 and 2024 and we never played Ireland in 2021 and only played them in 2023 in our WC pool.


So the skunkshit as you say delicately put it, is all your’s.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Oct 2025, 02:12
#72
09 Oct 2025, 02:12#72

Mozart


Twisting like a snake again or myou do not undestand anything - years go by with no games a gainst them. The only minimum that in tems of the program as to November tournaments enforce a match between SA and all the other 3 tems each played all 6 Nations teams at least evey second year, Ireland tour SA for a 2 test series last year and we will play them thsis year. Somehow France avoided travelling to SA for years now, How that happened only World Rugby would know that either you were totally ignorant as to what happened and is happening, As to tests playerd

not or years is willful Skunkshit and despicable since it is untrue to make a distorted statement like you did.




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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Oct 2025, 05:14
#73
09 Oct 2025, 05:14#73

You wonder why France has avoided traveling to South Africa. It’s simple they aren’t involved in any tournament that brings them to South Africa….they are all negotiated fixtures.


Here let me help you understand, last games in South Africa:


France 2017

England 2018

Ireland 2024

Wales 2022

Scotland 2014


So compared to Argentina, NZ and Australia who we play twice a year….years may go by without playing a particular team. The numbers above suggest we play the improving NH teams about a third as much as we play our SH opponents. The other NH teams are pretty much the same or declining in the case of Wales.


The net of all of that is Dr Lucky has on average faced weaker opponents, with a squad which has been strengthened by broader rugby participation in SA and a great generation of players from traditional sources.


But of course you are too abysmally thick to comprehend any of that.





CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Oct 2025, 06:28
#74
09 Oct 2025, 06:28#74

If you say years go by - you totally lied about about how World Rugby rganize all tss playerd worldwiode - inm the case of the EOY Tour had to play France on tests in two years, So educate yourself for a chance S outh Africa in terms of the system World Rugby allocate in years allocate the November tests, In tems of that system SA played France in 2022 and in 2023 no November tests were played so the alocation is postponed by a yearso the allocation in 2024 was the three team allocation was postponed to 2024 so in 2026 SA will play the temas they played in 2024 with the system then meant that the 2028 November seies will be what is the case in 2025.


Test Rugby is limited to 3 tests in July - 6 in te RC and 3 in November - in other words no team is supposed to playon average i2 tests. The NH teams play 5 tests in the 6 Nations 3 tests in July and 3 in November. Meaning on aveage entail 11 tests.


Idf you analyse the real system to twosts things around to make it that years go by with S A, Australia, New Zealand teams play NH tests onm the same basis, They play teams at least once every two years In the next cycle SA is playing France in 2027 in the RWC and in the 2028 and 2030 November tests.


Now birdbrain how should the test system being restructured? Should SA, Australia. New Zea;land get involved n NH tests outside of the present system? Tell us birdbrain how will you do that?


So your statement above is skunkshit - unless you can come up with a new system that would be acceped by World Rugby. In the case of France and Ireland they will play SA once every second year that France voso S A at least once every 6 years - so another Kuly tour by rance is long overdue - but in that SA has zero say.


I now you are desperate to attack Erasmus and blame him for everything - especially fo things he has zero say in - but you act like a real lunatic in that hate campaign and it is not only silly - it is stupid as well. And lies and distortions are always part of your attacks.







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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 Oct 2025, 07:05
#75
09 Oct 2025, 07:05#75

Here, Dave...


Moz - On a quite country road it's probably okay for kids to occasionally cross the road on their own.


Dave - How stupid are you, claiming that children can cross roads on their own? Have you seen how busy JHB CBD can be? You hate children and want them to die.


There you go, Dawie...does that illustrate your dishonestly clearly enough for you?

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Oct 2025, 07:58
#76
09 Oct 2025, 07:58#76

Dumbplum


There are the Bok old guard that he inherited. A big group of quality players just hitting their prime when he got them.


When are you ging to give us the list of old gurad players who hit their prime by the time Erasmus took over their coaching. Try make that list available to prove you did not write BS on site,



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CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Oct 2025, 08:11
#77
09 Oct 2025, 08:11#77

Mozart


You must be the biggest BSter on site ever. Erasmus was awarded an honorary doctorate and he never used it, He had zero to do with anything on tha score - but you do and then calls him Lucky. The fact is that is immature junk and you must hate him because eh proved you know nothing about rugby and coaching.


But then you were the idiot who wrote that SARU should rather have retained Coetzee as coach thana ppoint Erasmus. BUt th en you hae Erasmus because White a serial failure as coach should rather have been appointed.


A sick and idiotic mind to find reasons to attack Erasmus. You were a brainfart when another serial failure coach - Meyer - were coaching the Springboks and in 1 thread yu midly ree to a ailure made in selecing players you hate,


So carry on with your hysteria - it jsut show you know nothing abot rugby coaching and your brain got stuck in shit.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 Oct 2025, 08:25
#78
09 Oct 2025, 08:25#78

Mike,


I couldn't give two shits about the semi insane nonsense you spew.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Oct 2025, 10:25
#79
09 Oct 2025, 10:25#79

Just because I caught you out spreading shit on site so you don't respond to what I asked you.


By the way the following is also a gem only you can come up with:-


2) AE kept up with two of the fastest players on the pitch to finish off the try after WILLIAMS made the final pass to him - I guess you want AE to apologies for this.


The two fastest players did not run at top pace whe they had to avoid numerous defenders so they definitely went rather slowly - if he did not keep p woth them S t Esterhuizen should be played ss a slow prop. The nearest to him whn he scored th first try the neaest defender was an opposition prop,


The second try was in the same vein. You think people are blind and cannot see what happened during games?




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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 Oct 2025, 10:33
#80
09 Oct 2025, 10:33#80

"The second try was in the same vein. You think people are blind and cannot see what happened during games?"


No, Mike. I think you're blind, and dishonest.

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