Why do SA fans think NZ players and teams are cheats when they are no beter

 Luke, if you did not notice before, I was just as outspoken about Bisfart and Steyn and Deysel, wel he is also a repeat offender.

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Because they are .Silly question by 3 I Q!!!
A few mistakes by Berry does not balance the scales oak! Hahahahahahahaha you have to love these delusional kiwis. We see kiwis robbing others blind on a weekly basis.kiwis should be banned from officating any rugby involving foreign teasm
Berry should have red carded two crusties. Far too lenient on the crusty thugs.

 Beeno: we can't help it if we are so lovable  All the refs favour us, even the SA refs according to you. I think SA player should go to charm school as this may help win over the fickle refs.

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Fantasy is the only hope Beeno has left?

 Its not a charm school we need its a bite school. That SARU have put up with this all these many years is a total disgrace

 Mr. Been,

"We see kiwis robbing others blind on a weekly basis.kiwis should be banned from officating any rugby involving foreign teasm"

-Sharks vs. Chiefs.           Ref: Angus Gardner (Australia)

-Hurricanes vs. Stormers. Ref: Rohan Hoffmann (Australia)

-Sharks vs. Crusaders.     Ref: Stuart Berry (South Africa)

 Ab ass you may have noticed the term I - "use bent down" under refs.
Could you plase ask your friends about whether Oz is downn under or not.Thanks
T hings usually get even worse when a nz ref officats but the Ozzies are poor too. Hope that clarifies matters.

 Also ab ass is no good quoting the refs in the last three games when this is a decades old problem.  Thanks again.

 3ku1: the accusations of "cheating" only come from the uniformed posters (Bee no) & are designed to distract us from celebrating wins such as the Chiefs, Canes & Crusaders provided. Some terrific rugby, it's good to be a kiwi &  true rugby fan. 

 What is really hilarious JW is ou 3 IQ implicitly admitting nz are cheats. Read the heading of this thread.Hahahahahahaha how these things have a habit of coming out even if sideways.

Bleat-o meter: Beeno your bleat-levels have hit a new time high, congrats!

 JW your problem is best illustrated by this   

 Sorry Beeno, your images are not displaying. Is it the refs fault?
Out  of sympathy we are granting a special allowance for bleating this week as a show of support for our SA posters. As you are the only one bleating this should reduce the bleat level to an acceptable range. No need to thank us

 Luke
I do not think anybody should point fingers in this case.  The past few weeks saw some ugly incidents  from both SA, New Zealand and Australian players so anybody accusing teams from other countries - must first look at what happened locally.  
My own problem is those incidents often enough stem from incompetence by the offenders themselves.   They are not making the grade so they try illegal methods to get the upper hand and get caught out.         

 My problem is with the obvious inconsistencies in handing out sanction. Very poor for a s called pro sport.

 DB: yes it is at least baffling. 

The headline makes a generalization. 
What many fans are not happy with is the inconsistent rulings of the citings. It is turning the competition into a farce. I support the punishments handed out to Bismaark, Steyn and Deysel.However someone like Messam gets off scott free for strangling a player on the ground. If that was any South African player he would have been cited.
It would be good to have an independent tribunal from another country like France, England etc. They could look at all the rulings and deem if they are consistent. The only thing that seems consistent is SA players get harsher suspension for exactly the same offences that New Zealand and Australia get.
If anything Australia seem to be less involved in foul play than SA and New Zealand.
The point is- if the Citings are inconsistent, why many people believe.Why is this the case? If someone can benefit, then it looks like corruption.

It looks like corruption.Bwahahhahahaha oh well spotted there Sharkbok!
Kiwis are by far the worst offenders. Nobody comes close to them.
Lets not try and brush this under the carpet. Some saffas are far far to lenient on the kiwis. How will they learn!
JW I hope you get the drift now re the image!

Sorry Beeno but I am thinking of the Crusaders, Chiefs & Hurricanes wins this weekend & accusations just seem like sour grapes.

 In the case of the Stormers win its not sour grapes but calling out the cheats. No need to try and confuse matters JW. 

Beeno: clearly you are telling a porky as your nose has grown to ridiculous proportions.
Best to come clean & admit the kiwi teams won fair and square & then check with Mrs Beeno for some nose powder. Surely something can make it look better - cosmetically at least - but it does provide a nice wee perch for the bird.
Beeno after yet another porky
Well at least it's not a kiwi

 I've got a huge gripe with the siting system. Some offenders get off scot free. Faul play can only get rubbed out if each and every incident is dealt with consistently.  There is a time frame for these things, rightly so, but somehow some offences don't get sited and some offenders get sited for the wrong offence. The Messam case being a prime example.  He was sited for a tackle offence when it was clear it was dirty play. The correct charge should have been added. All borderline cases should go to hearings and the sanctions should be clear and to the point. Remove all room to move and increase the penalty. Each and every player should know that if he transgress , even if the ref missed it, he will get sited and the penalty would be severe. Some of the players get away with behaviour that could land jou in jail if you do it in the pub on the corner. It is a disgrace to the game we all love. The inability of the WR officials to deal with this effectively is plain and simple favoritism and incompetence. 

 Agreed DB. It is not good for the game if there are so many questions about these rulings. For the good of the game they need to ensure more credibility.

 I am more concerend with the cheating down under refs on the field but both are problems.

 Draad
What happened to Deysel  - I could not find anything about his ban.   Anything less than 5 weeks for that BSter would be a disgrace.   Maybe not a dirty player - but too dumb to know the difference.  

 Mike, that is the problem. It is way too untransparent. Deysel will have his hearing I'm sure, but the results should be published laud and clear.

 I would also like to see a report on every game, listing the reasons why some incidents were not sited etc.

 How about commenting on the crusties guy who almost took Deysels head off. Three yellows two of which could have been red. 
Retaliation in these cricumstances will happen unless you are the roll over and die types as we have in ou Maaaikie and Draad who appear to be apologising for our existence. 
What weak kneed fans they are! Not a wrod about the crusties who started it all. Amazing stuff - they are like SARU and thus nothing ever gets solved in this regard.The bent kiwis defend their guys even when its a hopeless cause. Our "supporters " cant defend our guys even when there is a defence to be made. 
W hat a disgrace!

 Beenkop, I ain't apologising for nothing,  but until the prosess is clear and professional,  these issues will keep on popping up.

Beeno: every game has niggle, we all know that. Keep going on like you are & you will make the mad hatter seem sane.
The mad hatter's tea party will get you in the mood for the NH so there is a positive side