You lot woken up to JJ yet

LMFAO..... too funny

Nice rugby post there Dumb Ass as ever

You add so much value on here - what would we do without a cunt like you?

Why am I called a racist? Because I said Porthen was selected for transformation reasons? Or is it my Dark Lands Comment?

That comment is not because of race, but because of corruption and stupidity in leadership.

I’m simply pointing out that there are several props with more power and experience who’ve been overlooked.

It’s frustrating to see politics influencing rugby selections when the focus should be on merit and performance.

The same goes for the country. Criticism of leadership failure or corruption isn’t about race; it’s about accountability and competence.

Everyone, regardless of race, should have the right to speak up when things aren’t right, also when it affects sport.

Whatever happened to the separation of sport and politics?

Mpuff let’s ignore Porthen and deal with your fucking lies about me

Now did I say I left SA because of the K word huh? Yes or no?

Yes…..why are you so worried about it?? You always saying you don’t give a fuck about anybody on here or there opinion ??

Fuck me what a disgusting sad excuse of a human you are.

You are fucking scum and the evidence is at hand

You lying scum

Ok Davies don’t wet your panty…..Just deliberately trying to piss you off, and it’s working hahaha

You didn’t use the K word, but you did say that Blacks is one of the reasons and that they breed like rabbits:)

I never said anything of the sort you lying low life

"You didn’t use the K word . . ."

Hmmm . . . so basically, a vengeful, attention-seeking, spiteful and juvenile lie?

Yes?

No not vengeful at all, I am not like you. Fact is he did say that about the Black people. And stop fucking acting holy, you are the last person to talk.

And I thought you were done with Ruckers?? Off course not, as soon as there is a chance to interfere than Rooinek is there.

GPT

"Dawie could’ve won this debate hands down, he’s sitting on the screenshots, the timestamps, the digital Holy Grail of proof. But alas, technology stands before him like an ancient riddle written in a language only teenagers and Neo understand. It’s as if he’s holding Excalibur but can’t find the Wi-Fi password to pull it from the stone. The evidence gleams in his gallery, unposted and unsung. Somewhere out there, Dawie’s phone holds the truth, but he’s poking every button except the ‘upload’ one. It’s a tragic saga, a man armed with undeniable receipts, yet rendered powerless by the dark arts of file formats. Like a mute witness in the court of public opinion, Dawie knows he’s right… but the ‘Attach File’ button mocks him in silence.

He is just a lying scumbag

Aaaah a lying scumbag you say….How about you coming on Ruckers saying that I told you that I am some struggling hobo, a drug addict, alcoholic and off course riding on everyone’s back??!!

Then when I confronted you and told you to fuck off and stop defaming my name, you conveniently back tracked and said you only taking the piss…. Blatant lies!

How about the the Donkey you shot in the Army 2 km away, with a R1 Rifle that has a affective range of 600 yards?! Remember that shit Davies?!

So it’s ok for you to take the piss and defame, insult posters on a daily Basis??!!

But when i make a joke you Kak your pants and your fucking lunatic butt buddy Rooinek is also butt hurt??!! You can both go fuck yourselves:)

Fuck me you two are real old ladies with wet panties…..Also the biggest hypocrites on Ruckers as you have no foot to stand on!

Look in the mirror when talking about lies.

Those of you that watched the Sharks' games last season and to date;

Do you agree with Dawie that;

"Hooker has never out performed JJ certainly not in terms of beating defenders"

I eagerly await the silence that is surely to follow.

Ah so I never shot the cow from the top of a mountain with a R4 huh? I just made that up - fuck off you stupid twat.

So now you are only joking that I said I left SA because of black people - shitting yourself that Id expose you for the lying scum you are I guess?

You really are fucking pathetic

No guy I joked about the K word and admitted it…..shame cry more you little bitch….you did say that one reason was because of black people and safety for your family….. stop twisting my words!

R1 or R4 it doesn’t matter, you said on here you shot the cow from 2 km away and that is fucking impossible with either one of those Rifles…..Liar!!

A cow is not a Springbok, Kudu or a Gemsbok that is alert and wild. No the poor Cow stood there and you most probably shot it from 50 to 100 yards away. Disgusting in Any-case!

I am for fuck sakes not scared of you and are still willing to drive 900 km from Helderberg to Port Alfred, to meet up with you.

You first lied to me that you only coming next year march, but the other day you said on here you coming to SA for Christmas??

You are a fucking pathetic liar - I said nothing about leaving because of black people or my families safety - we never had a conversation about why I left SA you lying cunt.

I shot the cow with foot and mouth from the top of a mountain. It was crossing the Limpopo River into the Kruger Park. It was submerged in the water so I was aiming at something the size of my finger nail. All 3 shots were hits - the cow rolled over in the water. My troops, all Shangaans called me Rambo after that.

That is a fact unlike your pathetic lies you sad excuse of a man

You are an absolute loser

We left SA to come earn the pound for 5 years, with the plan to return home thereafter. We even told our lovely maid, Gladys, that we would reunite on our return.

Guy if you can’t even admit what you told me, then you are a weakling and you have zero true character.

Whatever who cares?? I sure don’t as I know the truth…..

Rambo?? Hahaha more like A trigger happy Dumb Rock spider that shot the Cow ( now all of sudden a sick cow) from close range:)

There is no shame in admitting that leaving was because of safety. And how long have you been in the UK already?

It must be more that five years already ….so you telling me poor Gladys is still waiting??

Fuck man maybe let her know you not coming back anytime soon, geez guy :)

Ok you fucking lying prick it’s time to take you down and expose you for the sewer rat that you are.

You are so fucking stupid that even when you are told I hold the evidence you continue to lie

Are you really this fucking stupid huh?

Screenshots?

Plum do me a fucking favour and fuck off

Do you have to stick your nose into everyone’s business you fucking loser?

I see there is a whole string on Julius…posted elsewhere but most relevant here:

Julius’ season tackle stats on the URC site:

13 tackles made/6 missed…..% success 59%, but actually their system seems to have calculated it wrong it should be 68%. Better but still not good.

His running is better 18 carries/ 7 defenders beaten….which pretty much matches his tackling 19 tackles attempted/ 6 tackles missed. Kind of a neutral

He does seem to be conceding a lot of ball though:

Turnovers made 1/ turnovers conceded 3. I guess the turnover made was the hold up for a maul. Good but 3 turnovers in 18 carries not so bueno.

Much of his season so far hinges on the break on Saturday….but honestly Kriel or any of our top centers would have been through there given the defender laying off and Esterhozen’s excellent offload. Kolbe would have scored

……..

A mixed bag for Julius. I’m guessing the Sharks will play him more now…Am is clearly a shadow out there. We should know more by the end of the URC.

Oh my goodness I can’t deal with this utter ignorance

Fucking bored of it all

You can’t deal with the truth which I just posted for you.

Much of his season so far hinges on the break on Saturday….but honestly Kriel or any of our top centers would have been through there given the defender laying off and Esterhozen’s excellent offload. Kolbe would have scored

Biggest load of shit I’ve read in a while

And fuck me - how shallow a debate when all you rely on is stats - it’s pathetic

Stats provide zero context - they give you 20% of the picture. For instance there is no way JJ has missed that many tackles - again no context as to what constitutes a miss

I take it you missed his to great little breaks the match before but it all hinged on his last break which average Jessie would have executed and fuck me Kolbe would have scored from - fuck off. JJ took contact and tried to offload - I take it Kolbe would have run through the contact huh?

This shit is all just rugby ignorance of the highest order - the truth my arse - it’s pathetic, it’s boring

Kolbe has run through stacked defenses plenty of times. Given that amount of space I’d have backed him to score. And Kriel is faster than Julius, why couldn’t he run through a barnyard gap.

What’s boring is blind belief. You claim you are right and the tackling stats are wrong. With no evidence of course. This is just JJ Englebrecht, Meisiekind and Stepfontein all over again, You still can’t admit Jantjies never made it as a test player or that Libbok is hardly dependable.

If the kid is what you say he is he will prove himself, he is miles from doing that yet.

Moz, it's honestly pointless.

This guy doesn't think that Hooker outshone JJ last season.

He still believes that this statement is accurate;

""Hooker has never out performed JJ certainly not in terms of beating defenders"

I think it's a pride thing. I don't think there is a single poster on this site that is able to even remotely support the statement above.

The best is, if you didn't know how old Hooker is, or how many caps he has, and you watch the handful of games he's played for the Boks, one would guess he's at well above 50 caps.

So while Dawie is making statements like "Hooker is Robotic and basically a younger version of Jessie Kriel" or "Hooker has never outperformed JJ" the rest of the sane world recognise what is obvious.

Dave, it's easy. JJ needs more time. A lot more time. Hooker will be selected in every Bok squad from now until 12 years from now.

That's reality.

Dave, I found one of your ads online. The fake name doesn't fool me.

Saffex, it doesn't matter which player you rate or mention on this board. The ancient old drunkard and his Servile Gimps will immediately start ripping that player to shreds while squealing and shrieking about how clever they are and how stupid you are.

That is how they roll.

Just have a laugh mate. JJ has the goods.

"Saffex, it doesn't matter which player you rate or mention on this board. The ancient old drunkard and his Servile Gimps will immediately start ripping that player to shreds while squealing and shrieking about how clever they are and how stupid you are."

Rubbish

Spot on Rooi - it’s just fucking childish

I mean - it does not get better than Kolbe running through barn doors and therefore stronger than JJ and Jessie is quicker

Best of all is the one gimp giving examples of wings doing their things implying he is stupid enough to believe a wing and 13 operate under the same parameters

I don’t know why I come back on here and argue the game with these idiots - I can see why you took a leave of absence

JJ is going to make these clowns names mud just like Rassie and PSDT have - but they are too dumb to know it

"Best of all is the one gimp giving examples of wings doing their things "implying he is stupid enough to believe" a wing and 13 operate under the same parameters"

My word! You still don't know how to use imply and infer correctly!

How is this possible?

Stick to the rugby you fucking cunt - I know that’s a stretch for you but at least you can pretend

Problem is, when ButtPlug does talk about rugby he makes an even bigger fool of himself than when he's yapping for attention or trying so hard to sound clever.

And yes, it would appear that is actually possible.

URC stats Hooker

21 carries/11 beaten…..vs Julius 18 carries/7 beaten

18 tackles made/ 3 missed….vs Julius 13 tackles/6 missed.

But Dave and Rhonda are deep into JJ Englebrecht mode. One has to remember these are the noobs who thought Luke Watson was going to be a great Springbok.

Hooker is a year older than Julius but more mature in seeing the game….being proactive, being secure. He sees play develop and he reacts. Julius still stays on station waiting for the game to come to him.

That of course is too complicated for Dave and Rhonda who seems to be regressing rapidly, throwing out a few feeble insults now and then.

Help me Rhonda, help, help me Rhonda……ROFL!

I guess that old RooiBalls also believes Hooker has never been outperformed JJ.

Oh boy Moffie trying to tell us how rugby astute Hooker is compared to JJ

Giving us a run down of stat comparisons knowing full well they play in different positions

I mean can you get more fucking stupid - seriously

Hooker is damn good, but it’s JJ that has the X factor

Moffie still banging on about Luke Watson - the Super rugby player of the year who was a better equipped openside than Schalk ever was but unfortunately was defined by his off field crap not his rugby - it did not help that he had Joke White as the Bok coach at the time - a coach with zero people management skills

Luke Watson was crap but Adi Jacobs was great bwhaaahaaaaa

Since X Factor is such an abstract term, why not describe to us what X Factor JJ has?

At this point, you kind of have to, because the X Factor is apparently the crux of your argument.

Try not to make it another Emperor's Clothes scenario please - It might be X Factor, but it has to be tangible.

See - I'm sticking to rugby

This whole shit show of a thread is based on this:

Dave: JJ is ready now, but even though I admit he is not a finished article I still refuse to accept any doubt about him

Us: JJ has potential, but we're not convinced yet because of definite issues in his game

Nuanced arguments remain, as ever, Dave's achilles heel. Simply can't deal with them. It's either 100% for or 100% against, there's nothing in between.

The self-appointed rugby prophets blessing us with their sacred insight.

The fact is, not much needs to be said to prove that Ethan Hooker is operating on another level compared to JJ.

His performances are speaking so loudly that both these idiots are spinning in self-denial.

JJ might reach that level one day, but right now, he’s not there yet. No amount of tantrums from Laurel & Hardy will get him there any faster.

Apparently, if you don’t bow to the Church of Rooi Tit & Porker, you’re automatically an idiot.

For guys who “don’t know why they come back here,” they sure spend a lot of time preaching from their high chairs.

Relax, boys. It’s just rugby, not divine revelation!