Respect of privacy

Despicable!!!

A long, sullen and sulky silence ensues . . .

How do you guys get involved in a spat like this for this many years with this amount of negativity?

Where do you find the energy to perpetuate it chronically the way you do?

Have it out. Sure. Swear at each other. Sure. Keep it going for a week or two. Sure.

Years though? And not just one year, not two...

How do you do it?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaa!!

SharkShit, you drol!!

I'll get you for that. How dare you rummage around my Facebook account.

Wow ... I cannot believe that we have so many whinging babies on this site ... the biggest of them all being Denny ... by some way.

He obviously saw that no one had noticed his absence and so sent an email to Ed, seeking attention ... by complaining about something that happened AGES ago.

Un fcuking believable. To think that a grown man can actually behave like this.  

He was always a crybaby. He sulks and complains about everything ... EVERYTHING!!!

What a sad miserable little losser. A sniveling coward. 

His mommy must have really done a number on him.

Well ... if the miserable little twat is really no longer a part of this forum then I say ... good riddance. He contributes nothing to this forum anyway. 

No doubt he's been waiting for this thread in anticipation ... signing in everyday ... and now that it's finally here, he'll be reading it's content secretly behind closed doors ... thinking that we're unaware of his presence.

Haaaaaaaaahahahahaha!!!

Well, Denny ... you've made an arse of yourself ... go get yourself professional help. You are a highly disturbed individual ... and this board isn't helping you at all.

I wonder how long it'll take before he comes crawling back.

We should all agree wee rooijackass lowers the tone of the board! He is like like a rash that doesn't go away (or rather keeps coming back. He has gone off on many a sulk!) 

Beeno

it would be wise to do what ED advise us to do.   However, the one who cause havoc on sit with his personal attacks is the orc - the worst ever.   The unfortunate part is he provokes other members to react to his childish BS and the rugby discussions becomes a side-issue. 

Please be objective for a change.   The orc's contribution to the site is totally negative from a rugby perspective.     

Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaahahhahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Funniest comment yet! Be objective says ou maaaikie re Moz! Hahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha oh my aching sides how self unaware can one get

It is curious how the Plum vs Cloudy saga has continued for going on 1 year now, and that seemed entirely baseless.

I never said that Moz. Personally, I'd respect people's privacy and have not the slightest interest in in being underhanded or defending underhanded behaviour.

Just saying that negativity has a way of consuming you if you surround yourself with it for long enough.

Shark.

That never went on for a year. It was a brief event/s that occured over a week or so. On two separate occasions.

Moz

I made a point of proving Cloudy wrong about calling me a sexist because she would have perpetuated that label and caused it to stick unless i stopped it in its tracks. She was already doing it. At some point the accusation would have stuck despite me not having treated her in a sexist way at all.

She would then have used that to dismiss anything i said going forward.

Still, that's a lot different to having a perpetual enemy for years and years. Not accusing anyone or picking sides. Just saying that i dont have the energy to carry on something like that.

After a while, it doesnt matter who started it or how severe the misdeed was. The result is just that you have an "enemy".

A net loss. Nothing more.

Plum, in my opinion you were a bit hard handed with CLOUDS, but I understood your motives. Funny thing is, I'm sure, to this she does not believe she insulted you. She obviously did not do it on purpose .

I disagree Draad.

Putting a shitty label on someone and then trying to cement it is not an unintentional act.

For example. You and I have a disagreement. At some point I accuse you of being a liar. I then keep calling you a liar. 

I'd do that because I want you to be portrayed as a liar. Once cool. Twice...okay. multiple times...it's ntentional.

And that's why I was a bit over the top. To st op that shit right in it's tracks.

She bought into the narative she wanted you to be... .sort of.

Shark. 

That never went on for a year. It was a brief event/s that occured over a week or so. On two separate occasions. 

Plum the shark Shark has been know to make grievious errors so dont worry about the oak!!

Wonder what ou Cloudy thinks of her demonrat friends and full term abortion. Hillary has had a terrible influence on these scumbags. The demonrats are now the party of infanticide.

Stop snivelling.

This is about as useless as the SA Rugby Team.   

"The orc's contribution to the site is totally negative from a rugby perspective."

Really???

And how would you describe yours, Mike?

Go ahead, make my day, I can do with a laugh.

"......but I do draw the line at posting pictures of a dead family member"

Well, either you agree or disagree or you just don't care. 

I guess that defines us and that is why I hold you and your values in high regard and that is why I've identified with you on many issues over many years. You have had my back over two decades.

Denny

I have never used extraneous means to attack members personally and condemn usage of such means totally. 

However, I am sorry to say that fake posters, lying, bullying and invasion of privacy are associated in the main by posters using the site for personal attacks on other members and the general practice of some members are the same.  From my own perspective one of the worst practitioners on site  is the orc with for example his vetsak and pervert attacks on members,

I know you are a friend of the orc and hope that it does not affect the respect I have for you as a poster.   I have never once  made a personal attack on you or your family and even where we differ it was on viewpoints om rugby and cricket issues - not on personal issues.      

Of course I've never had a deceased family member's pic posted here so to try and sum up the level of offence/hurt caused is not something I'll try to do.

Playing devil's advocate though, there is an important point to consider.

Did he know that it was a deceased family member?

If not, then he is only guilty of posting a picture of a family member. Still not a cool thing to do, but not nearly as bad as the former. Right? 

Did he think it was a pic of Denny that he was was posting? That would be the least "bad" of the three options.

Well what I've been trying to do, with some success lately, is to ignore the jabs and rather stick to the actual debate. Rather than stumbling at the first few insults by reciprocating I've found that if I continue the discussion unhindered then the debate continues as opposed to devolving into being meaningless. 

The PSDT thread is a decent, though mild example.

On the upside, how often will you sit in a bar a get such a concentrated level of rugby opinions and insights as one gets here? Never.

Mike

I remember a time when Koosie attacked you non-stop, for those who don't know it happened on another site. I also remember Moz sticking up for you, I believe the two of you were board mates at the time. If I remember corectly the attacks  led you to tell Koosie to F/off a few times but throughout it all it was Moz who stuck by you. You also left the board because of Koosie's non stop attacks.

Thing is mate, I don't like what's happening between you and Moz. I don't know why and when the relationship went south but from the looks of things I don't see it heading north which is a shame. I still believe there's nothing that serious stopping you and Moz getting along. 

I appreciate your stance on posting private photo's and messages and I respect the fact you've never attacked me or my family. 

When are you visting again?

Denny

Nobody regrets the level to which my relationship with Mozart has deteriorated more than I do.   I have repeatedly tried to make peace with him - and after he initially promised  to co-operate, the peace-making efforts fell apart.

I think there were no difference between Mozart and myself up to about 2012.   I supported White as the Springbok coach and was upset by the internal intrigue leading to his ouster,  I supported  White's selections all out and there was no real differences as to our postings at the time,

However, the  fundamental differences became apparent in 2012 with Meyer's appointment as coach and his team selection basically not based on performance but on reputation.   Maybe it was the result of failure of some players in the WC in 2011 where the Springboks under-performed and the blame could not be placed entirely on Bryce Lawrence,   Many great players from the 2007 WC squad by 2011 declared their retirement from international rugby, but Meyer tried them back to play - even though their return was NOT based on performance, but on reputation.   

Mozart stayed absolutely loyal to the great players of 2007.   I regarded that as nothing new and differed with him on the issue since that was to my mind not in the longer term interest of the Springbok team.   I actually supported the replacement of some of the elderly by 2013 and mentioned players to look at in future.   Some did well - others failed - but that is to be expected from the Under 20 players.

I think the real difference with nasty comments on "seuntjies" and "perverts" started in 2013 when I supported the selection of the 20 year-old De Kock replacing Graeme Smith as opening batsman in the ODI side.   From there the differences became seemingly endless and repetitive. since I was extremely  scathing about Meyer's selections for the 2015 teams for tests and the WC.

Be it as it may - my only real interest on site is involvement of fantasy rugby issues - for the rest I am frankly not interested in the kind  and level of discussion at present on site.   I have consequently decided not to comment on any Mozart  postings and will only respond to clarify issues raised by others,

Sorry about it - but that is the factual situation at present.

Being a pensioner and the currency exchange rate being so poor from an SA perspective  I cannot afford to travel to foreign countries anymore.   My racing friends in Australia keep inviting me - but really it is impossible,   Sad to say that.             

Moz

Again, as the devil's advocate, I'd have to raise a further point regarding Rooi being a sociopath.

We all, every last person here, behave differently in person to what we do in face to face instances. That's exactly how terms like "online tough guy" or "keyboard warrior" came about. Similarly, "care bears" are people that go online and pretend to wanna heal the world but in reality do jack shit in real life to make even the smallest positive difference to anything or anyone.

Determining someone is a sociopath by their online conduct isn't as clear cut as what it would be otherwise. 

For me, online behaviour is more sociopathic on the whole and by quite a big margin.

What do you reckon?

I'm just shooting the shit here and not trying to rattle anyone's cage.

Moz

Can you give it a rest, it's clear to me that you're wasting your time and even if you're weren't it's not worth the effort. I certainly don't enjoy seeing my late brother being tossed about on a insignificant web site.

Koosie keeps banging on about an apology......I don't beleieve he did but even if there is one it really means nothing to me.

Thanks mate.

Blue, in my book you are coming across as a good guy. 

I agree 100% as well. Many of the guys here are older and have great stories to share. Personally I'd much rather people share stuff like that to go with the usual rugby discussions. 

Maybe threatening is the best tactic here. Unless we get some of those tales out, I'll start sharing some of my extremely boring off topic adventures. Trust me, you'll all regret the day that happens since you've seen but a sample of the true blandness that hides beneath the surface.