Hillary the source of the Russia hoax.

This from the editorial board of the WSJ, which underlines the dishonest actions of the Clinton campaign and the cynicism of their supporters in the intelligence community :

‘ The Russia-Trump collusion narrative of 2016 and beyond was a dirty trick for the ages, and now we know it came from the top—candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton. That was the testimony Friday by 2016 Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook in federal court, and while this news is hardly a surprise, it’s still bracing to find her fingerprints on the political weapon.

Mr. Mook testified as a witness in special counsel John Durham’s trial of Michael Sussmann, the lawyer accused of lying to the FBI. In September 2016, Mr. Sussmann took claims of a secret Trump connection to Russia’s Alfa Bank to the FBI and said he wasn’t acting on behalf of any client. Prosecutors say he was working for the Clinton campaign.

Prosecutors presented evidence this week that Mr. Sussmann worked with cyber-researchers and opposition-research firm Fusion GPS to produce the claims on behalf of the Clinton campaign, and to feed them to the FBI. An FBI agent testified that a bureau analysis quickly rejected the claims as implausible. (Mr. Sussmann has pleaded not guilty.)

Prosecutors asked Mr. Mook about his role in funneling the Alfa Bank claims to the press. Mr. Mook admitted the campaign lacked expertise to vet the data, yet the decision was made by Mr. Mook, policy adviser Jake Sullivan (now President Biden’s national security adviser), communications director Jennifer Palmieri and campaign chairman John Podesta to give the Alfa Bank claims to a reporter. Mr. Mook said Mrs. Clinton was asked about the plan and approved it. A story on the Trump-Alfa Bank allegations then appeared in Slate, a left-leaning online publication.

On Oct. 31, 2016, Mr. Sullivan issued a statement mentioning the Slate story, writing, “This could be the most direct link yet between Donald Trump and Moscow.” Mrs. Clinton tweeted Mr. Sullivan’s statement with the comment: “Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank.” 

In short, the Clinton campaign created the Trump-Alfa allegation, fed it to a credulous press that failed to confirm the allegations but ran with them anyway, then promoted the story as if it was legitimate news. The campaign also delivered the claims to the FBI, giving journalists another excuse to portray the accusations as serious and perhaps true. 

Most of the press will ignore this news, but the Russia-Trump narrative that Mrs. Clinton sanctioned did enormous harm to the country. It disgraced the FBI, humiliated the press, and sent the country on a three-year investigation to nowhere. Vladimir Putinnever came close to doing as much disinformation damage.

Common sense told one that this whole story was nonsense from the beginning. But many swallowed the bait. What we are still waiting for is an admission from one of these Trump bashers that they were duped. Go ahead chaps we know who you are.

Don't worry about the Russian Hoax it's yesterday's news, I'd be more concerned about your hero Trump inciting Rednecks to storm Capitol Hill so as to overturn a legitimate election result. Five innocent people died of that consequence all because Trump had the mother of all dummy spits witnessed by a world wide televisi on audience.

It was massively fraudulent and  treasonous and a major reason used by the media to destroy Trump's chances of winning in 2020,    Trump never incited anybody to storm the Capitol at all - so another piece of fake news  is used here,    There were 5 deaths in Washington that day - three of them  were from natural causes of a stroke and heart attack and two police murders of innocent people - while one died in  vehicle attack used by a Democrat supporter to kill a person.

The two natural cause deaths  needed no investigation - but the other 3 should have been subjected to a judicial investigation by a Court of Law - it was not because the Biden Department of Justice stopped such investigations because it would expose that the story is based on propaganda and not standard judicial .processes.    

By the way the involvement of Clinton led to massive expenditure on  investigations and abuse of the FICS court - which  is in conflict with Law.    It caused the Obama Administration to spy on opponents and  was really the biggest political scandal  in the history of Democratic Governance ever.    

There are already major libel cases on the go and Trump will probably end up with billions of damages  paid by the Clinton crowd, the Democratic Party and the media.   No wonder they have gone totally quiet on that issue and your idea of it something of the past  is not a solution for them.

YAWN again please.    

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Plum

My good friend Denny - I admire a lot - has been swallowed up by the Democratic Party and fake news  propaganda.    Unfortunate - but true.    

Fuck me denny you are a serious moron.

Quisling simply doesn’t have the integrity, the self respect to admit he was dead wrong. 

Let me do you a deal Pompous Piles.

I'll apologies if you can present just one post where I've claimed that Trump colluded with Russia or Putin.

Yes you've heard me, I'll apologise if you can point me to a post where I've claimed Trump/Russia collusion.

But on the flip side, if you can't find any proof then I expect you'll apologise for being a stinking rotten little Liar.

Is that a deal?

Deal…..this posted March 3 2018

‘ Even more alarming — given Trump’s invitation for Russia to hack into Hillary Clinton’s emails, and the attendees of the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower designed to get “dirt” on her — “one source suggested that a new indictment could include unnamed American co-conspirators as part of a strategy to pressure those involved to cooperate.” Collusion, in other words, may begin to show up in indictments’

That’s one I found on a quick search….your apology should be forthcoming.

More BS......."your apology should be forthcoming" Bwhahahahaha

Where in that copy and paste do I personally say that Trump colluded with Russia, what you've posted is an excerpt of a narrative of someone other than me.

When you do find one make sure it's what I've personally stated and that it includes the full comment with my Avatar not an extract from an article written by someone else.

You never personally say much. Your modus is to find some quote that supports your views and lay it out there as weighty evidence. As in this case. 

So clearly you support the points in the article which you selected and you certainly never contradicted. Your headline: Trump’s Calamities are coming faster and in bunches’. No uncertainty there about the article.

Go ahead and do the decent thing….admit  you were wrong.

Answer my question, here I'll repeat it for your benefit.....

'Where in that copy and paste do I personally say that Trump colluded with Russia"?

It's a simple question......spare me your infantile BS.

Or are you too stupid to understand that I merely posted the article to allow for it to be debated. There were the normal cries of derision and denouncement from you and the Trump-puppets which I did leave  unchallenged....in other words Dope, I didn't express an opinion for or against. You stupidly jumped to your own conclusions as to my opinion.

Find some veritable proof or apologise now.

Typical. Dense clearly exposes Moffie as a pompous and deceitful old windbag who didn't do his homework before making (still) unsubstantiated accusations and getting egg all over his fat stupid face . . . and ButtPlug immediately shoves his snout up Moffie's  wrinkled arse before even attempting to understand the situation.

Pheyeew! What a stench!

Even the heavily redacted, edited and censored version of the Mueller report that Barr finally allowed to be released showed there was collusion . . . but the Trumpanzees jumped on the one statement Mueller made that the investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or co-ordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities" and started trumpeting victory . . . even though the report also went on to state that the investigators had an incomplete picture of what happened due to communications being encrypted, deleted or "not saved" as well as testimony that was false, incomplete or declined. 

That is what we know from the redacted report that was actually released. The same report also went on to state that Russian interference in the 2016 election happened in a "sweeping and systematic fashion" which was welcomed by the Trump campaign as it expected to benefit from such efforts.

Only a very stupid and brainwashed Trumpanzee would interpret all that as Bozo being vindicated or cleared of the accusations rather than the cowardly Republicans and William Barr in particular distorting the actual findings, misleading the public and establishing a one-sided narrative of the report that was contrary to the report's findings.

Of course, since then Barr has finally admitted what most sensible people already know . . . that Bozo is basically a clown who was unfit to be president . . . but because he acted like such a weak coward when it mattered, Barr can't spill the beans now because he'll end up in the jail cell next to Bozo's .

"........and ButtPlug immediately shoves his snout up Moffie's  wrinkled arse......"

Unashamedly.

Ah so now we have ou Rooiballs sneakily attempting half of a back-track.

Note how we went from Russia collusion, between Trump and the evil Ruskies, to Russian interference and Orange Man bad because he apparently he benefited.

Who cares if Trump wasn't involved, it wasnt proved that he was, but who cares...he benefited from something that had nothing to do with him. Therefore guilty.

Edit; It' s not sucking up at all. I've been telling you twits, for ages, that it was a bad idea to buy the media stories. Honestly, I just take any chance i get to rub your bloody noses in it.

"Who cares if Trump wasn't involved, it wasnt proved that he was, but who cares...he benefited from something that had nothing to do with him. Therefore guilty."

They want it to be true...same with the media. They had to fabricate dirt on him, because they could find no proof or actual skeletons in his closet.

Here’s Quisling fully supporting the Russian hoax….in his own words. Or perhaps he simply doesn’t know you have to indicate when you’re quoting others. Either way he clearly is deeply invested in the Russian Collusion theory:

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It's coming from everywhere and you'd have to ask where does it stop 

US indicts 13 Russian nationals for meddling in 2016 election 

US Special Counsel Robert Mueller on Friday announced the indictments of 13 Russian nationals and three companies for alleged interference with the 2016 election. According to the unsealed indictment the accused conspired -- from 2014 until today -- to interfere "with the US political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016." Mueller alleges that the group posed as Americans and controlled social media accounts that focused on divisive social and political issues. Under the management of Yevgeny Prigozhin, a close ally of Vladimir Putin, the group reached "significant numbers" of Americans, according to the indictment. 

They had a "strategic goal to sow discord in the US political system" and by mid-2016 were supporting Donald Trump's campaign and disparaging Hillary Clinton. The group was based in Putin's home town of Saint Petersburg, but some of the accused traveled to the United States. Stops included Nevada, California, New Mexico, Colorado, Illinois, Michigan, Louisiana, Texas, Georgia and New York. 

An unnamed Texas-based American political operative is said to have instructed them to focus on so-called "purple states" which swing between Republican and Democratic control. "Hundreds" of people were said to have been involved in the operation, working in shifts and with a budget of millions of dollars. They allegedly targeted social media sites like Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram. 

Two of the firms are said to have Russian government contracts. 

The true facts have been uncovered after almost 4-5 years after the "Left" media and Demorats did their best to discredit all the evidence at the time.

This allowed the "LEFT" to get away with the lies and false claims for much to long.

All the evidence discovered by the SP Durham is backed up with real hard evidence gained from phones, emails and people associated with the Clinton election who are selling her and her corrupt bid for election out.

Strange how folks who are questioned under oath suddenly change course and recall events that differ from their previous TV interviews of what took place.

Just as the interview that the FBI conducted at Hillary Clintons residence in NY which was held without placing her under oath.

The reason was to ensure that if any evidence should be uncovered later and she was under oath she could be charged for not being honest to the FBI.

All planned and deliberate misleading from all officials involved plus the Clinton Election team and many Demorat Congress and Senate members as well.

No doubt after all the  criminal cases have been settled I am sure you know who is going to SUE all guilty parties for slander plus whatever else surfaces from the trails.

Is it not amazing just how far the Demorats will go to "HIDE" their crimes and the Hunter Biden pay for play schemes as well as many Demorat politicians who also filled their pockets.

Go Trump Go.

Even "Pencil Neck" Adam Shifty was on the take.

Remember he and Nancy went to the Ukraine prior to the big aid bonanza that was to be announced to empty their bank boxes in anticipation of the next "CASH" payment that would be made from the AID that they would approve once back in the USA.

Unbelievable I know but wait and see............

mozart,

Not holding my breath for a reply.

Typical.

The coward has obviously taken the deep dive….not one ounce of self respect,

Wehe . . . so here we have the Trumpanzees getting all tearful and stamping their little feet, demanding that the person who did NOT claim collusion apologize for what he . . . ummmm . . . DIDN'T claim; while they pointedly ignore the person who DID claim collusion and his clear evidence to support that claim.

What a bunch of snivelling and cowardly little crybabies . . . too chicken to argue the points I made regarding Barr and the "release" of the Mueller report but still angry enough to demand that Dense apologizes for something he didn't say.

LMAO!

Good work ButtPlug. Keep at it. 

You know the road back is there somewhere, now you just need to find it. Don't lose heart! 

I'm just a little bit tired of asking Piles to provide the proof that states I believed there was collusion. I know he doesn't have much of a life and it serves him well to drag out an argument for the want of something to do (just have a look at his volume of posts to see what I mean) but if he can't provide any proof then  he must apologise.

Quisling……I say your posting of multiple articles claiming Trump colluded with Russia, without qualifying their views,  is ample evidence you believing the hoax. But if  you never believed that Trump was at fault….just say so. Go ahead tell us you absolve him of Russian collusion.

Rooinek 

You really are unable to think and rely totally on indoctrination BS   

The inability to think make him quote  garbage from the Mueller Report.   Mueller was appointed to perform a witch Hunt investigation on Trump and what did he find after two years of Investigation?   He found no evidence of collusion  and what you claimed was evidence was worth zero - since he based it on an unproved allegation that there was Collusion.  

Muller disgraced himself totally by refusing to investigate the source of the allegations made against Trump because if he did he would have to charge the lot of Democrats that is being charged now by Durham.

Now think dimness - if there was anything really true in the Mueller report the present Department of Justice would have charged Trump ages ago with a crime - but there was nothing.   So the BSters had to fall back on the so-called insurrection by about 600 unarmed individuals entering the Capitol.   Will  get nowhere with that as well.

Remember Schiff and how he had facts about Trump's impeachment and submitted no facts to the Senate.    I will give some info on Schiff, Pelosi and Biden to show how involved  thy all were in corruption in Ukraine based on documentary proof.   They were afraid of being exposed themselves and ending up in jail  - hence the wild allegations they made against Trump.

AJH

In a normal democracy when the facts are exposed of bribery and corruption by anybody the situation is that the Police must investigate the allegations.     Obama and the rest of the Democratic Party leadership was corrupt and he found a solution to ensure that bribery and corruption by Democratic Politicians are not investigated by "capturing the FBI and the Jusice Department.     

A typical example relates to he Hunter Biden Laptop which has been with the FBI and they never investigated the  factual information on the role of Biden involved in corruption,    Instead they started raiding homes to discover whether certain individuals have copies of the hard drive of the Laptop so they could get it and destroy the evidence.   

So lets go back a bit  on the following three corrupt individuals:-

Biden

Biden was the  point man of Obama iro Ukraine  and one of his main tasks was to protect corruption of himself and people like Pelosi and Schiff from criminal investigation.   Biden and his son Biden operates a joint bank account  into which the corrupt money "earned" goes.   

In the case of Ukraine Hunter was appointed by the corrupt Burissma company from where kickbacks were in full swing when it comes to came to kickbacks of Biden and other corrupt Democrats in Ukraine.   The role of Biden and the Democrats in the coup of 2013 in Ukraine was clarified since 2013.   The USA funded the coup and Biden and Obama ensured that the Western countries accepted the coup.   

Be it as it may Hunter Biden was appointed by Burisma as Diector and was paid $18 million dollars to act as link to his father to prevent investgation of corruption by uS politicians.   Hunter neve once attended a Burisma meeting and did no real work at all for the company.    

The way Biden operated became clear afterwards.   In a video Biden in 2018 claimed that he had the Ukraine  Prosecutor who was investigating Burisma fired by refusing to release USAID money ($1 billion).     When the home of the owner of Burisma was raided - Biden went into overdrive to stop the investigation.     He phoned the Ukraine President at the time 3 times in 14 days to instruct him to stop the investigation.  When that did not help .  he went to Kiev and while there to inform them that  in the prosecutor was not fired the $1 billion aid program would be stopped,  Biden when challenged on the issue old the Ukrainians that Obama appoved of the firing of the Ukraine Prosecutor and supported the threat of withholding of the $1 billion.

When Trump asked Zelenskyy about what happened the shit his the fan and especially Pelosi and Schiff was behind the fake impeachment of Trump.   The latter two had thei own corruption in Ukraine.

Pelosi

Like b iden - Pelosi was using he son Paul to get involved in Ukraine coruption.   In 2009 Paul Pelosi . registered a company in Califonia who was involved inter allia  gas and oil exploation in Ukraine.   The company ws owned by himself and a Russian living in Moscow.   The company was deregistered in California and Paul and his Russian Partner thereupon registered the company in Singapore,   

In 2014 Pelosi in a video   promoted her son's company in Ukraine.     Resulting from this video in 2016 Paul Pelosi's company got a $25 million USAID grant.   The $25 million was paid to the Company as authorized by the USA   Ambassador in Ukraine   From there the $25 million was transferred to the Singapore Bank account of the  Paul Pelosi Company    and from there vanished ito thin air.\

Schiff 

In Ukraine there  is an armament company owned by a billionaire by the name of Stepanek.  This guy -

*   owns a subsidiary company in the USA on which two employees of Schiff  serveas Board members; and

*    financed Schiff election campaigns in his running for House membership for the past decade.

The system used to be for military aid finance to be paid to the Ukraine Government - which routed the money to Stepanik and a major part of the aid was corruptly handled by the siad Government,    The kickbacks were  made through the American-based subsidiary copany owned by Stepanek.

So what happened effectively that Schiff got major kickbacks from Stepanek.   When it was reported wide scale corruption in USAID allocations - not only in the case of Ukraine - he stopped all foreign Aid be paid in cash until a further system to ensure that corruption is nullified.    In the end Trump decided that miliary equipment would be bought in the USA and no money sent to Ukraine.

Pelosi and Schiff realized that any real investigation would land hemselves in jail so they panicked fearing that their own misdeeds will be uncovered - they decided on a fake impeachment process be implemented.     .   

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"Hillary Clinton, a former Secretary of State, United States Senator, and Presidential hopeful, approved dissemination of the Trump-Alfa Bank hoax.

Quisling……I say your posting of multiple articles claiming Trump colluded with Russia, without qualifying their views,  is ample evidence you believing the hoax. But if  you never believed that Trump was at fault….just say so. Go ahead tell us you absolve him of Russian collusion.

Oh so after going on record saying I believed in the Russian collusion conspiracy you're now demanding my opinion. In other words you lied, you didn't find a single shred of evidence to say that I did other than two copy and pastes sans my opinion. How's about figuring it out for yourself Huh?...better still...

GFY.

Well mozart it appears from the reaction that you won this one.

Down and dirty suggests that the last reply from your "Buddy down under" got to him.

Truth does hurt some.

denny its pretty easy to see your a hardline lefty and its really hard for any sane person to believe you didn't bit like a back alley b!tch on the collusion shyte. now open wide and swallow you earned it blad.