Nostradamus's Forecast for 2021

The following really gives me the creeps:-

 "According to Nostradamus’ text: “The par full of rocks and great disaster, through the West and Lombardy, the fire in the ship, the plague and captivity, Mercury in Sagittarius, Saturn fading. People have interpreted this to mean that California is the land in the West, and that there will be a strong and powerful earthquake, which wouldn’t be so farfetched as they are pretty common in the state"

Why?    We have already seen  the plague  started by China that - 

*     that has killed hundreds of thousands if people ;  and

*      Keep people captive in their homes

California is often subjected to  earthquakes    bit the last really catastrophic one  of 1906 0 is another one coming this year? ,             

The only creeps I got was there are people allowed out in the real world while believing any of this crap.

Why don't prophecies ever contain accurate information like a date/time/actual place name. Its always vague words that obviously works as morons like you come along and make up anything you want and say it fits.

Just like christians  and every failed prophecy in the bible. Just interpret it any old way that suits you. 

I do wonder how so many people on this board are still alive, surprised most of you lot haven't won a Darwin award years ago.

Nostradamus is a false prophet any way....no true believer falls into this category of deceit..

Deceit is often lined with partial truth otherwise it would not deceive. Believe what your vain imaginations do at your own peril.

The age of prophecy closed with the completion of the canon.

Interesting response by people who hate the Christiaan religion and  accept the  Muslims as allies since the latter also hates Christianity,   Small brainwashed minds at work.

Why do I worry about  things  - not because of what Nostradamus allegedly wrote - but because of the US ruled by the Communists  and destroying democracy and the Chinese virus being used for the purpose.        

FFS you moron, this is a perfect example of the simpleton you are.

Atheist hate christianity amd so do muslims therefore Atheist  support muslims.

On this insane logic Christians hate Atheists and muslims hate Atheists therefore Christians support muslims, congratulations you muslim supporter.

Obviously when you had your brain washed they washed it to much and it doesn't work any more.

Same "history", different perspectives...you can include Judaism and it's writings with the other 2. 

Sader you strike me as a pretty stupid person....why do you think your views are additive?

With no offense meant...Sader looks likely to be on one of the "spectrums"...I think it might be ADHD, like myself...you normies sometimes confuse it for stupidity...it isn't necessarily...

True Christianity is opposed to hatred of anybody...what they hate is the deception that enslaves and misleads people away from the truth that sets mankind free from the power of sin. Christ commanded believers to love their enemies but hate that that which blinds us.

We are all sinners and need salvation and it's a free gift and there is not one that's beyond redemption but like all gifts they don't become yours unless you are gracious enough to receive them. You don't have to tick boxes with God to earn salvation.

There is  counterfeit "christianity and misrepresentation of christianity as well and it is rife today.

The Adversary's biggest weapon is deception.It's always been.

The biggest lie the Devil ever told...

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Same "history", different perspectives...you can include Judaism and it's writings with the other 2. 

The Anti-Christ Pop Up Salesman is so predictable isn't he ! LOL.

I think Sader looks like an extra from Once Were Warriors. 

In the boozehall, leather waistcoat , bad tattoos and not a motorbike in sight.

Don't worry Sader, ex cons can sell pop-ups too.

Well that got a few butt hurt 

No I don't have ADHD or a mental illness (makes me the odd one out on this forum) 

I guess I am getting to the overload point of listening to grown men and women? stating their stupidity in public.  I am sorry but you are all arse hat looneys that swallow any conspiracy and believe that fortune tellers, magic, and prophecies' are real.

I used to come here to laugh at the loons but lately all its doing is making me realize man is doomed if you lot are the best mankind has to offer.

Look take off your tin foil hats, put on some clothes and come out of your mums basement and rejoin the real world people.

And Plum no I have no Tats, no leather jacket and haven't set foot in a bar in almost 2 years

Judaism's view of Jesus - Wikipedia

SB 

Even though I am not a fanatic when it comes to religion and even blamed for the fact that I rarely go to church by family members, I do not hate religion the way you do in fact I recognize the fact that  religion played a massive part in developing of freedom that we enjoy today. 

What did Christians do to you to cause the hatred you display on site?

Religion is oppressed in  dictatorships because it represents an element of opposition to dictatorial rule.   Is that what bothers you?

Things do not look good for you  and your crowed of religion  haters - the vast majority of  people in all walks of life still respect religious freedom and the democratic right of people to practice what they want to do as to religion provided it  is within the legal framework, in countries,  

I will give you a perfect illustration if what happened in practice.    There is a youngster by the name of Rublev who was brought up largely by his grandparents and is now the no 7 ranked tennis player in the world.    His grandparents lived under communist repression and was deeply religious and they apparently had a positive influence on him.   His grandmother died last year and he referred to her when receiving the trophy he oin in Vienna last year, 

So lets give you the example I refer to,   Rublev whenever winning a match made the sign of the cross  and dedicate the win to  God.    In 2019 when he was  still unknown in sport circles and the public - he beat   Tsitsipas in the opening  round of the US Open.   He was modestly applauded after the game and when they saw him making the sign of the cross  the spectators  stood up  and the applause increased tenfold and  became overwhelming/

I hate attacks on freedom of people  and that includes  the democratic rights of people to  practice what they believe in.   You apparently do not adhere to that idea.   That has ostracized people on site and should be eliminated,.                    

"No I don't have ADHD or a mental illness (makes me the odd one out on this forum"

You sure? Have you been tested?...they didn't bother to test for these things back on the 70's and 80's.  They just thought we were a bit extra naughty and caned us into submission. 

Shark,

When we have only just discovered what appears to be fifth law of the universe, how can you be so sure that this place isn't a creation and that a God does not exist?

That's not a religious question . 

It's philosophical one and I dare you to take a stab at it.

"When we have only just discovered what appears to be fifth law of the universe"

??? What's that...and what were the first 4?

Gravity, electromagnetism, strong force, weak force...and then the seemingly new force that is responsible for the rotation/spin of muons.

And if you really wanna get freaky, check out Brian Greene on Rogan recently. He talks about how knowledge gained from quantum computing research is now becoming instrumental in understanding space time and black holes in terms of data and error correcting codes present at the edge of black holes...and perhaps the universe.

One could take a cheap shot and say that an error correcting code cannot appear from nothing, it requires design. But I don't know enough to know whether that's a sound argument or not. For example, I think error correction does occur within genetics. So it could be that when data swirls around endlessly, patterns and codes may occur within it...somehow.

I think I just confused myself haha

Anyway, here's the clip from Rogan, Draad.

Thanks...5 forces then.

@Clevermike, people are allowed to have their own religion, but that typically means they do not respect other people's religion or philosophy. For example,  

1. Muslims believe that they should kill people that do not convert to Islam.
2. Judaism believes that everyone else is heathens. (nonhuman cattle)
3. Christians believe only they go to heaven/have an afterlife. 

Does this sound like respecting other religions? Does it sound like they are tolerant people that respect people's rights to have their own religion?
Sounds more like Hitler's Master race asking for protection under the guise of freedom of speech, in a Democratic society. Monolithic religions are one truth, not relative- so by nature, they are intolerant. 

Religious people only respect their own religion and reject all others. Richard Dawkins said that everyone is at least 99.9% atheist because they reject all religions as non-sense except their own. 

Monolithic religions are not Democratic in spirit.
They are Communist religions that claim only they are correct, and all others are absolutely wrong. An absolute truth, not a relative truth. Monolithic Abrahamic religions are very intolerant, and in no way respect the spirit of Democratic law. 

I am an Anti-Theist, so I believe the world would be better without religion- at least in the 21st century. It is very primitive stuff, and modern values in the 21st century are an upgrade.
You as a happy-clappy will not respect this belief, which is fine. 
One of the perks of living in Western Europe, is they have moved past religion which is great.
America is the last first-world country where religion is still big- but that is changing rapidly as the younger someone is, the more likely they are not religious. The smart people in the US - like Big Tech and Pharma are not religious. 
So religion is on its way out in the developed world very quickly and is even in decline in the developing world. 

How can anyone be tolerant if they believe only their religion is correct, and therefore only they go to heaven and have an afterlife.

@ButtPlug,

I have never said that a God does not exist. 
"If" a God exists, my subjective opinion is that "it" created the Big Bang,
and everything since that time happens by evolution. (So if a God exists, it is not controlling everything that happens on a day-to-day basis). 

It is just a philosophy - and given there are so many religions - the statistical chance that only 1 is right, with all others wrong is a statistical improbability. 

Religions plead for respect in the 21st century, but they do not respect other ideologies. Hypocritical...

If you take the Muslim/Christian view of the world, the earth has only existed for 6000 years. That would pretty much rule out the 5th element, or the Big Bang Theory, or Evolution etc, etc.

If you believe in evolution you cant believe in stuff like Adam and Eve, Noah's Ark, plagues created by God- etc, etc>

Science has proven that the earth is not 6000 years old.
According to the Bible, the earth was flat- instead of round, and the sun revolved around the earth - and loads of other nonsense. 

If you talk about your "own" philosophy, it is a subjective opinion. If you try to pass of your own opinion as God's viewpoint, it pretty much ends any debate of relative truth. 

"America is the last first-world country where religion is still big- but that is changing rapidly as the younger someone is, the more likely they are not religious. The smart people in the US - like Big Tech and Pharma are not religious. 

-Religion is the most intolerant and least Democratic organization in modern society

-Western Europe is currently better than it has ever been. It has never been so peaceful without wars.

-You can still have a philosophy without God. A good deed is a good deed regardless of whether a God exists. 

-Christianity's ' main contribution to Western Society was the dark ages.
It was the Pdivvy that inherited the Roman empire from the Pagans, and ran it into the ground. Only when ancient Greek and Roman texts were rediscovered in the East, did the Renaissance (cultural Rebirth) happen- and man was able to leave the dark ages- and build upon the ancient Greeks and Romans. 

Not a fraction more intolerant than you and your fellow Anti-Theists...pot kettle stuff.

Religious people reject 99.9% of all religions. Anti-theists reject 100% of all religions. No much of a difference. 

However, a Democratic society like Western Europe still allows people to have Churches for their own religions. However, people in these societies have to accept that the man-made rule of law takes precedence over religious beliefs. So Islam cant practise Sharia law like stoning people to death in Western societies. 

"I have never said that a God does not exist. 

"It is my "subjective" belief that God does not control day-to-day activities. I can't prove this, but neither can you. So it is not an accepted fact"

Fair enough .

"However, it is a fact that the Bible claimed the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around the Earth, and Earth is 6000 years old etc, etc. "

It's a perspective and context thing. The Bible isn't a scientific textbook...it must be read in that context and in the context of the time and language of the time it was written millennia ago.

So Draad, if the Bible is not a scientific textbook it has a license to ignore facts?
If evolution happened, then Adam and Eve never happened.

So you admit that man wrote the Bible, and not God- otherwise, how could such basic errors have happened. 

SB  

Even if there are differences in religious believes and you mentioned only three but many more - does not allow for attacks by you because they duffer on credentials  and often politics played a major role in that.  

Your attitude is childish and totally unscientific and is in fact an attack on democracy,    In fact you are the same as that corrupt scumbag who is now the puppet president of the USA.     

@Buttplug, science acknowledges gaps of knowledge and is a work in progress. 

Just because something can't be explained with current levels of science, it does not mean a God is responsible. 
There "may" be more than one universe, and there "may" be multiple big bang cycles, quantum physics, and other ideas that have never even been contemplated yet - etc.
Some of this is just a hypothesis at this stage, unlike the Big Bang which is already an accepted fact to many- even if some finer details and context need to be elaborated upon. 

However, the current trend is just further proving that religions are unscientific- and just a philosophy and not based on facts. 

@DumbMike, religious people are not Democratic. They are relics from the Dark Ages, and so much wish that Democracy could end - and appoint the likes of your Master Trump for life.

In the Dark Ages, everyone was forced to follow Christianity. No other religions were allowed. The 21st century Christians are still not Democratic, but now they see they are in decline - so they are begging for help from the tolerance of Democratic culture. 

Christians ended Democracy and replaced it with the Dark Ages. They want to go backwards, that is what they do. 

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Apposed to Anti-Theist fascism?