UK forecasts 1million Covid Cases per day before the end of the year

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Dec 17, 2021, 01:39

 90,000 recorded today, but it is believed to be much higher than the reported figure as more people will be asymptomatic due to a booster jab. (Possibly as high as x5 the reported figure). 

 It is expected to be over 1million cases per day before the new year, without any form of social distancing like work from home. 

What will happen to the NHS?

This is the most crucial question. The answer depends on what fraction of the infections turn into hospitalisations, and how long people are admitted for. Last winter’s wave was driven by the Alpha variant, and before the rollout of vaccines, it hospitalised about 22% of cases in the 65-and-over age group. The vaccine program slashed that rate to 6%. Chris Whitty, England’s chief medical officer, has said that his worst-case scenario for Omicron is a return to those pre-vaccination hospitalisation rates. More optimistically, he said a booster might provide better protection against severe Omicron than two doses do against severe Delta.

When will we know more?

The UK Health Security Agency expects to have reliable data on the severity of Omicron and the effectiveness of vaccines against hospitalisation in the week between Christmas and the new year, or more likely the first week of January.

Given the high levels of previous Covid infection and vaccination in the UK, most cases of Omicron are expected to be mild: even if antibodies fail to block infection, T cells are expected to hold up fairly well against severe illness. But according to Paul Hunter, professor of medicine at the University of East Anglia, 1 million infections a day would still put the NHS under considerable strain. That is because rather than being spaced out, the hospitalisations would happen all at once. “A million infections a day translates into a hell of a lot of hospitalisations, even if we get far fewer hospitalisations per case than we have in the past,” he said.




Dec 17, 2021, 02:25

Panic button in full retreat.    This is nothing more than a mild version of cold rarely translated to not affecting the lungs  of people and that the panic reactors  to  BS spreaders ignore.    happeniong all at once - that calls for real fun from the movies.  .   

Dec 17, 2021, 03:16

This is utter bs, even India with it’s vast population in the midst of the Delta variant got nowhere near a million cases a day. In fact the whole world has never exceeded a million cases in a day….the high is 905000 cases on April 29.

The Brits seem to have lost their stiff upper lip,

Dec 17, 2021, 06:31

The Rise and Fall of the Englishmen.


The great British Empire under her majesty Queen Victoria.

The resilient navy, army and airmen under Sir Winston.

Now...a low class mixture of craven cowards...absolute contrast but I guess it's true everywhere.

Dec 17, 2021, 08:23

The weakness of democracy is where the rogues get into power.   That has always been the case and weak leaders resulted in destruction of the moral fiber in the countries concerned,    Countries like France and Italy  were  typical examples  of democracy failure in the 1950's and even afterwards,    Germany had a few strong leaders after WWII  - but that country is now in the same way as  Italy and France used to be - no coherent policy with the woke culture taking over.

The fact is the UK has been floundering along since the departure of  Churchill and only  Thatcher showed some backbone as UK leader - the rest was weak and useless garbage.   The USA  as leader of the democratic governance became  a joke under the Clinton regime and since then under every president bar Trump.   The present  US administration is a weak and  extreme leftist hogwash destroying the image of the country and seriously attacking the US constitution.             

Dec 17, 2021, 12:26

The numbers are estimates, given many asymptomatic cases will not be recorded, and scientists believe the figure could be 3-5 times higher than what is reported as official cases. It is believed that many of those with recent boosters will be asymptomatic. 
So, it is close to 100,000 recorded cases per day at the moment but maybe already like 500,000 per day. 

People that use the home test kits are not reported infections. Many cases are not even reported.

The R-rate is around 5. Scientists were on TV giving the numbers. However, people are already starting to socially distance- which should slow down the transmission (hopefully). 


The good news is that with such a high number of daily infections, the UK will get past the peak of this wave faster than other waves. 

The UK is one of the few countries leading the fight against Covid.  
The UK was one of the first countries to create a vaccine - and this has saved millions of lives around the world.
The UK also approved the vaccine and implemented it before any other country.

The likes of Africa sit with their hands out like beggars wanting freebies. :P
All while being a breeding ground for new variants... 

Past vaccinations still help against new Covid variants from t-cells, even if antibodies wear off. 
If the UK had not vaccinated such a high percentage of the population, it would currently be a disaster. 



Dec 17, 2021, 15:23

:The UK is one of the few countries leading the fight against Covid.  
The UK was one of the first countries to create a vaccine - and this has saved millions of lives around the world. The likes of Africa sit with their hands out like beggars wanting freebies. :P
All while being a breeding ground for new variants... "

Yes, and a supposed shithole country like South Africa identifies new strains better than you lot and we weather the storm better...at a fraction of the cost...as for breeding new strains...your Oxford vax probably caused the Alpha and the Beta strains...South Africa, UK and Brazil were the forst places the mutations emerged...coincidentally the 3 very same countries where the Oxford jab were tested.

Dec 17, 2021, 16:23

There are stupid people everywhere - like the anti-vaxxers that believe the vaccine actually creates the virus and its variants. 

The variants have come from countries with the most infections. 

Dec 19, 2021, 13:11

The first three variants came from South Africa, Brazil and the UK...coincidentally the 3 countries where the AstraZeneca has been trialed...also coincidental was that the AZ vaccine was useless against the SA variant and all the doses of vaccines were sent back by the SA government at a time South Africa was desperate to procure vaccines...a little bit of deductive reasoning makes it obvious, but yet the media and academia are silent about the obvious...

Dec 21, 2021, 07:09

Covid-19 hospitalisations fall sharply in South Africa

In what could be good news for other regions battling omicron, the number of people in hospitals with Covid-19 fell by around 25 per cent


By

Will Brown,

 AFRICA CORRESPONDENT and 

Peta Thornycroft

 IN JOHANNESBURG

20 December 2021 • 6:58pm

Technicians wearing full body protection suits work inside a biosafety level 3 Covid-19 research laboratory at the African Health Research Institute (AHRI) in Durban, South Africa, on Wednesday, Dec. 15, 2021


Covid-19 hospitalisations have fallen sharply in South Africa after a spike last month when the country reported the world’s first omicron outbreak, in what could spell good news for other regions battling the new variant.


The number of people in hospitals with Covid-19 fell by around 25 per cent to 5,600 over the last week, according to data from the country's National Institute for Communicable Diseases (NICD). 


The figures bolster recent reports indicating that the new highly mutated variant may not be as severe as other forms of Covid-19 like the beta or delta variants.


The news comes after South African officials announced late last week that fewer people have died or required hospital treatment from omicron despite a record number of new infections.



The seven-day rolling average for new infections in Gauteng province, the epicentre of South Africa's omicron wave, also declined sharply. Average daily infections in Gauteng fell from more than 10,000 to less than 8,000.


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“It really does seem as if…my country will escape relatively unscathed in this wave,” said Professor Tom Moultrie, a top demographer at the University of Cape Town.


However, Professor Moultrie stressed that South Africa's experience of omicron might be being shaped by the country's “horrendous” pandemic death toll and increased immunity among the population.


According to the South African Medical Research Council, the country of 60m has suffered more than 270,000 excess deaths – the number of deaths above the average of pre-pandemic years – since the pandemic began.


“What if South Africa's ‘light escape’…is because we ‘bought’ that present at horrendous cost during past waves,” said Professor Moultrie.



Experts also emphasised that data showing dropping infections in Gauteng must be treated with caution. The numbers are likely being skewed by the vast migration of people from Johannesburg and Pretoria back home to rural areas for the festive period.


The fear is that the mass exodus from Gauteng will contribute to an explosion of cases elsewhere in southern Africa.


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Most of those who travel to their home regions for Christmas do so on minibuses. On popular routes and at rush hour, many drivers will pack more than the limit of 22 passengers into the vehicle.


Meanwhile, omicron is spreading like wildfire across large parts of Eastern, Western, Central and Southern Africa.


Kenya, Nigeria, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Botswana, Malawi and Zambia are all seeing sharp upticks in cases.


Unlike South Africa, which has some of the highest vaccination rates on the continent, most people in these countries are yet to receive a single jab.


Moreover, daily testing figures are low in all these countries, so the full scale of the crisis may not be known until patients hit ICU units. 


Dec 21, 2021, 08:38

I do believe that holiday makers from Johannesburg and Pretoria in holiday resorts  in my locsl Municipality.   the active cases were 2  three weeks ago and went up to 174 - the highest total ever - two weeks ago.    This past week the active cases decreased to 145 - but that is still very hgh for this Municipality.   

I read somewhere that the Omricon virus now accounts for 80% of the infections in SA - the other 20% came from the Delta variant.

the problem can also be linked to the rather cold temperatures we had thus far this summer.   .The average was between 17 and 23 degrees Celsius.      

Dec 21, 2021, 11:17

Maaik...it's lekke hot in Cape Town.

Dec 21, 2021, 12:18

Sure it is comfortably hot today at 29 degrees C.   Hope it stays like that for a while/   

Figures released by the SA Weather Service reveal that ‘above average rainfall’ is set to persist for the remainder of Summer, and then into Spring. Regions such as Cape Town, the Garden Route, Gauteng, and Mpumalanga all look like they’ll be bearing the brunt of these wet and wild conditions – much to the delight of local ducks.

Dec 28, 2021, 19:18

Doesn’t look like a million cases a day is going to happen….maybe not even 100000 a day.  Ah well, only wrong by a factor of 10. The guys who project the numbers in the UK have been awful from the start.

Dec 28, 2021, 19:34

It was 125,000 recorded cases yesterday, 130,000 today. 
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It is believed that the infections are 5 times higher than the reported figure. The booster is expected to make more people asymptomatic. 

Many people have modified their behavior like avoiding Christmas parties- which has helped

Boris Johnson has not increased England's lockdown measures because the data is showing a much lower percentage of hospitalizations and deaths than Delta.
Also, most of the deaths are anti-vaxxers so the number of deaths will be much higher than if everyone was vaccinated- but life has to go on with or without the vaccine class. 

Omicron will hit America harder because they have one of the largest anti-vaxxer percentage of the population, so their death rate will be higher. 

In South Africa, the reported figure is much, much less than the true number of infections. The number of deaths is also probably less than the reported figure.
Much of South Africa have been infected with Covid already so they do have some protection against Omicron. 

South Africa is past its peak of Omicron.
The UK will probably peak in around 2 weeks
The US will peak in 4-5 weeks. 

US had its record high of cases yesterday. 543,000.

Dec 28, 2021, 21:50

Shark bokkie you post such crap...as young boys would say...a scaredy cat...get some balls man and live  more bold and daring in life and put finger to control...you are fear motivated.

Dec 28, 2021, 21:58

The Substantial fool is an anti-vaxxer, who only remains alive by a throw of a dice.
He thinks still being alive vindicated his approach...

History will show that most Covid deaths are from the anti-vaxxer population. 
Those with enough brains were smart enough to follow the scientific approach versus religious and social media conspiracies. 

Dec 28, 2021, 22:07

ThenWorld Barometer has the UK at 98000 cases yesterday…..but whatever the right number it’s a long way from a million. The US had only 230000 cases. Where do you get your numbers?

Dec 28, 2021, 22:10

The sources do vary, but I usually use Google. If you hover over yesterday. 
US Chart - 543,000 cases yesterday (27th December)

Also, this article says over 500,000 cases in the US yesterday.
https://usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/12/28/omicron-covid-19-treatment-short-supply-texas-covid-19-updates/9030152002/

France got 180,000 cases today. 

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Dec 28, 2021, 23:11

"It is believed that the infections are 5 times higher than the reported figure"

Oh really? Fools believe whatever they're being told...however nonsensical it might be...

Dec 28, 2021, 23:16

In South Africa, the reported number of infections is much lower than in the UK- despite more of the SA population having had Covid. 

The number of reported cases vs deaths in South Africa is completely different, making death rate look worse in SA.  However, if the reported cases are so low in SA, it would not be a surprise if the number of deaths is much more than reported as well.

South Africa is the only country that has created 2 variants. So Covid has been rife in SA.

China are apparently having a hard time with Omicron (South African Covid 2.0). 

 

Dec 28, 2021, 23:23

Four of my customers told me that they caught Covid over the last 2 weeks, and people from my work building have also caught it. I have never seen so many people get Covid in such a small space of time.

Fortunately, this wave will be faster than the other ones. 

Dec 28, 2021, 23:31

All BS conjecture...the South African facts don't suit your afenda, so you try and distort it...the 1st world medicine sector in South Africa is better than the average medical care in most first world countries...and we did more things right than Europe and the USA...regardless of our vax rate...we vaxed those who needed it most...it shows in the results.

Dec 28, 2021, 23:40

The best scientists create the vaccine and treatments. (Or more specifically virologists for Covid). 
There is no real proof that South African doctors are better than other countries, especially when most of them do not live in South Africa?

Didn't your doctor prescribe you HCQ and some other BS? 

That is beside the point because whatever point you think scientists in SA made, you probably misinterpreted the findings anyway. 


Dec 29, 2021, 06:17

"Didn't your doctor prescribe you HCQ and some other BS? "

Nope...he also didn't want to prescribe ivermectin,  luckily I know a good vet:D....and luckily there are other doctors who actually see the benefits of HQC, Ivermectin, antihistamines and other medicines. 

South African doctors are used to treating patients with Aids, Malaria and TB...experience that suits them well in dealing with covid.

Dec 29, 2021, 10:06

Deaths...



vs. cases.

Dec 29, 2021, 10:13

Too early to call it either way, but very promising...Omicron might actually be a good thing, but it's wise to be cautious till we know for sure.

Dec 29, 2021, 10:14

Atleast our government didn't overreact to the spike in cases this time around. 

Dec 29, 2021, 13:37

The world is lucky that Omicron is weaker, also that many people have been vaccinated- otherwise, things would be much worse. 

If the ANC has had their hands on the Covid numbers, it is unlikely they are correct. 
Most ANC leaders will be vaccinated, so they are sorted now.  

Dec 29, 2021, 17:11

"The world is lucky that Omicron is weaker,..."

It's the nature of viruses to get weaker...follow the science...the numbers are close to correct...our hospitals are coping and there are no corpses lying around in the streets...it's not like you can hide too much excess deaths...

Luck has got nothing to do with it..it's Nature...as observed by Science...ut is what it is, regardless of the fearmongering...

Dec 29, 2021, 17:47

France got 210,000 "reported" cases today. Looks like they are applying urgent measures to slow the spread. 

Dec 29, 2021, 18:00

Your removed "and" vaccines.
Without vaccines, the South African variant 2,0 is still powerful enough to have caused much more deaths due to its increased infectiousness.
It is the anti-vaxxers filling up hospitals and pulling down the stats league. 

Dec 29, 2021, 19:25

Err, no...it helps, but less than 30% vaccination rate doesn't actually proof your case...not saying it might not be significant,  it would be interesting to compare with the UK, but ATM the less vaccinated South Africa seems to be doing better than the Poms ..

Dec 29, 2021, 19:38

If 70% of South Africa has already had Covid, then perhaps it does have some limited form of herd immunity- that can at least fight a weaker more infectious strain with limited amounts of deaths. 

Dec 29, 2021, 19:59

How is the highly vaccinated UK doing with the same strain?

Dec 29, 2021, 20:09

"Aaron Rodgers, the star quarterback for the Green Bay Packers, decried the appeal to authority on the "Pat McAfee Show," those who say science shouldn't be questioned, equating that fallacy to propaganda.


"If science can't be questioned, it's not science anymore; it's propaganda," Rodgers told an excited McAffee.


"That's the truth," he added. "When did science become this blind agreement [about] not having any debate over what can actually heal people and work for people. That makes no sense to me."


Rodgers' comments come in light of his recent infection with COVID-19, during which he followed up with a series of treatments that did not include a vaccine. "I also got better in 48 hours," from the treatments he added. "And I had symptoms."


In a separate appearance on McAfee's show, Rodgers questioned why there was no public discussion on the promotion of a healthy lifestyle to combat the virus.


"Throughout this entire time, there hasn't been real conversations around health…As far as giving people, you know, things to think about when it comes to how to be healthier, right? As far as your diet, vitamins, exercise and those kinds of things," Rodgers stated.

Dec 29, 2021, 20:10

Well, Saffa 2.0 variant has ruined Christmas in the UK, thanks for asking...

Can we expect you lot to release 3.0 just in time for next Christmas?

Dec 29, 2021, 21:02

UK hits 180,000 recorded cases today. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-cases-latest-uk-omicron-b1984021.html

Dec 29, 2021, 21:35

Sharktwat just a refresher to help you adjust to Arithmetic for juniors.

1    = 1 x 1

10  =  1 x 10

100 =  1 x 10 x 10

1,000 = 1 x 10 x 10 x 10

10,000 = 1 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10

100,000 = 1 x 10 x 10 x10 x 10 x 10 

1,000,000 = 1 x 10 x10 x10 x 10 x 10 x 10.

The last # is also known as one million.

Got it retard!

Dec 29, 2021, 22:11

Farter, the only poster here that almost died from Covid, is now giving board recommendations...
Omicron is making its way through Canada, but Farter is still living in a state of denial. 



Dec 30, 2021, 18:19

Healthy as can be and still able to count and understand numbers that's me.

The trouble you have is that you are unable to sort out  BS for reality.

No wonder you are in the UK.

Dec 30, 2021, 19:38

US sets WORLD record 489,267 COVID cases in 24 hours


Many cases identified using home Testing DIY kits are not included in the official daily statistic of reported infections. Many people will just self-isolate after infection, instead of going and getting an official test that is counted in the daily infections. 
Only lab-confirmed Covid infections are counted in the figure..

Dec 30, 2021, 21:30

"Farter, the only poster here that almost died from Covid, is now giving board recommendations..."

Snarkhole, the poster so scared of dying,  he's afraid to live.

Dec 31, 2021, 01:11

Well, hopefully, this is the last significant wave of Covid.

If new strains continue to get weaker, most people will have been infected from Omicron, as well as vaccinated which may hopefully make Covid more like a cold. 

I actually know someone who still has long Covid, from before vaccines were available. 
Deaths are not the only consequence of Covid. 



Dec 31, 2021, 07:57

There are much worse things than covid...it's being hyped out of proportion...almost as if the counter meusures are doing more damage than the actual disease...there's no ballance.

Jan 01, 2022, 15:14

Professor Sir David Spiegelhalter, a Cambridge University statistician and government adviser, said the UK's daily COVID cases could be closer to 500,000 due to an overstretched testing regime and reinfections not being counted in data.

He told the BBC: "It looks like we are going to have a huge wave of cases and that is going to cause big disruption, in hospitals of course and other services, but in terms of translating to the very serious outcomes, I think we can be fairly optimistic.

Jan 01, 2022, 15:22

New Jersey, meanwhile, identified more than 28,000 new Covid-19 cases via PCR testing, Governor Phil Murphy said Thursday, "roughly quadruple from just two weeks ago, and four times as many cases than during the height of last winter's surge."
The number of positive cases is likely higher due to at-home testing, he added.

Jan 02, 2022, 09:40

The fact is that there is a difference that SB cannot understand  and he is at best been a brainwashed idiot.   In SA the medical field is not influenced by the big pharma companies that benefit massively from the present pandemic and the fools like Faucci get his instructions from that Industry and then force it onto the clueless Government.   It should rather be advisable  that a money trail investigation should be undertaken to determine which politicians and public offials benefit from  the pandemic.

The other norm is that there has been $100 billion fleeced from Government grants by politicos both on State and local level.   That involved 900 investigations being undertaken at this stage.  

In any event SB is a lunatic anyway - the fact that  the Omricon variant was identified first in SA does not mean the variant originated in SA.   The variant struck many countries  all over the world and not only in South Africa.    The Delta variant started  in India and Brazil and SA got hit later than in other countries.   Remember the IPL last year.    SA players and spectators of Indian origin  - and there are a couple of millions of those in the country - caused the rise of the figure in SA - same as what happened in the rest of the world.  

Nice quote from a political idiot like Murphy.   He is so grossly incompetent - he nearly lost the Governor election last month and only won after a total count in the most highly populated country was announced with 100% reporting  - 40 000 votes not counted was "discovered" in that county.   At the height of the present pandemic wave he was holidaying in San Salvador - would rather not quote him on anything.     

Why don't you start listening to real news agencies  and forget the lies spread by the fake agencies tou follow as gospel?         .          

Jan 02, 2022, 10:36

Maaik...Beta strain was also discovered in SA...we've got good people working in virology...there's probably been much more strains that has gone undiscovered in other parts of the world.

Jan 02, 2022, 13:21

Africa is now the breeding ground for new variants.
Most continents have now vaccinated a large percentage of the population, which will help reduce mutation due to fewer people getting severely sick. 

Omicron like Beta is from South Africa. Whoever smelt it dealt it.
If South Africa never created these variants, it is like saying that Covid never originated in China. 
It is obvious where a virus originated because those are the first people to get sick and have a new wave. 

The only way Africa will get a large portion of their population vaccinated is if:
1. The West pays for the vaccine.
2. The West does the vaccine roll out in Africa. 

If the vaccine is just given to Africa for free, their politicians will steal the vaccine and sell it on the black market. 


Jan 02, 2022, 15:23

SB

The whole story is a sham.   Vaccination does NOT prevent people from getting infected by the virus and does NOT prevent them spreading the virus.

Scientific evaluation blame vaccines for the evolvement of new  variants  - not the unvaccinated.  The virus are evolving new variants to get around he vaccines.    The media is quiet about it in the UK and USA.    Why are the SA Government and statistics locally indicate  that the variant wave is abating with a host of other info indicating that the Comiron variant is weak with lesser hospitalization - why in the USA, the UK and EU countries the variant has more serious consequences from a hospitalization perspective than  in the more advanced countries.

There is one other aspects listed in   an article above - and that is the number of deaths above the norm in SA.    There is one aspect which should be borne in mind.    When the virus struck SA - coming from Europe and  China - the SA Government put the strictest lockdown imaginable in place.    The result was a total disruption of food supplies and the fact that the poor already suffer from diet deficiency and food shortages caused major starvation - especially in the trial areas.   That could account for tens of thousands of deaths through starvation.  The stress caused also increased domestic violence  and hospitals and medical services struggled to cope with that as well.

One of the problems with reporting of deaths were that originally reporting in SA  inidcated the morbidities suffered from - but that stopped later on.   So was the virus deaths really the result of the virus or was the real cause the morbidities?    In Africa more so - but also in SA food supply is essential to stop starvation. and that went  AWOL    You musty also bear in mind that thousands of people from Southern Africa buy essentials  like food and other things from shops on the borders - but the orders were closed and travel within provinces in SA prohibited and that had ghastly consequences as well.

The Government this time around did not put travel restrictions in place for obvious reasons.   It is totally unrealistic and does not prevent infection.   Ramaphosa realized that and when Biden put travel restrictions on SA told him it was foolish  - he must get credit for that and afterwards refused to participate in a tele-conference  amongst democratic countries Biden  tried to hold.   Why discuss anything woth an idi0ot like Biden?

There were near to 2  million illegals flooding into the USA  from  110 countries world wide and his importing of the virus was unlimited.    So the USA has their own  problems caused by idiocy.   

Jan 02, 2022, 15:36



Jan 02, 2022, 15:41

Jan 02, 2022, 15:23

Scientific evaluation blame vaccines for the evolvement of new  variants  - not the unvaccinated.  The virus are evolving new variants to get around he vaccines.   

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A conspiracist cant think logically, let alone scientifically. 
The conspiracists need to stop trying to bend science to support their viewpoints. (State of disillusionment). 

No sensible person claims that variants are created intentionally by man. 
Starting to get into Beeno territory... Surplus to the requirements of mankind. 


Jan 02, 2022, 15:49

"Most continents have now vaccinated a large percentage of the population, which will help reduce mutation due to fewer people getting severely sick. "


Absolute BS...The UK is almost fully vaccinated and they have exponentially more cases than a poorly vaccinated South Africa...viruses mutate untill they become harmless...the Omicron variant is a good thing...more viral,  but way less harmfull, what you would want to happen to get rid of a pandemic...why are you even complaining? 

All the high tech helps softening the blow, but in the end Nature takes care of things...as illustrated by Covid in Africa.  Stop living in fear of life.


Jan 02, 2022, 16:28

A country like Australia might not think Omicron is great.
They have done well before vaccinations and were able to vaccinate most of the population.
Now with Omicron, they have lost control. 

People are also getting infected more than once, so Omicron is not great. People have been infected and vaccinated, and still, get Omicron. 

For countries most infected by Covid, Omicron may be good (Like South Africa). 
Not many countries have over 70% of their population infected by Covid. The more people that get infected, the more chance for mutation. Vaccines make people less sick from Covid, reducing chances for mutation. 


Jan 02, 2022, 16:51

SB

Where did you get that 70% infection BS from?    Secondly Scientists have expressed serious concern about mutation is a result of the virus reacting to the vaccines causing the variants.   Viruses if meeting no resistance will not change  and those meeting resistance will try and get around it.

But science in the USA and UK is controlled by politics and truths like the above will  be banned.      Your assumption is a new in medical science and should be recorded as a  fact to be avoided at all costs.      


Jan 02, 2022, 18:47

Maaik...most scientists and doctors in South Africa think that 60 to 70% of South Africans have already been exposed to covid and have natural immunity...I can't think why the rest of the world would by significantly different though...except for China,Aus, NZ and a few other places able to properly curb the spread.

Jan 03, 2022, 20:09

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Jan 03, 2022, 22:19

The death rate has gone down significantly in the UK. Today 157,758 new coronavirus cases with just 42 virus-related deaths were reported. It might be time to start listing daily deaths by vaccinated and unvaccinated. If 90% of the deaths are unvaccinated, suddenly it is around 5 deaths today of vaccinated people. This is not much different than flu...


Jan 03, 2022, 22:55

"This is not much different than flu."


Hallelujah!!!

Jan 03, 2022, 22:59

"If 90% of the deaths are unvaccinated, "


Big if...but what about the non covid deaths amongst the vaccinated...and the increase in still born babies? You know that's not reported much because it's difficult to prove and some opinions are not allowed to be voiced at all.

Jan 04, 2022, 12:46

The USA reported over 1 million infections yesterday.
Even in states with low vaccination rates, the death rate should be lower with Omicron. 


Jan 04, 2022, 13:50

The States has 4.7 times the population of The Kingdom...way to go still.

Jan 04, 2022, 19:57

London may have already peaked, as cases might be starting to down in the city.
220,000 recorded cases today. However, testing kits ran out over the festive season as well, so not all cases were counted. Estimates are that it is over 500,000 cases per day. 

Jan 04, 2022, 19:57


Jan 04, 2022, 20:25

"Estimates are that it is over 500,000 cases per day."

Lol...fearmongering. 

Jan 04, 2022, 20:34

Florida hospital system says 50% of its COVID patients are mainly there for other reasons

The nationwide picture is unclear, but many of those in COVID-19 hospitalization statistics are not there primarily because of the coronavirus"

Jan 04, 2022, 20:45

Omnicron is not flu....I have had some bad flu's over the years....in fact I don't take flu jabs anymore.

The fatigue with Omnicron is totally different from flu fatigue.

I did have the vaccination but Delta does not protect against Omnicrom.One apparently has 

T cell protection which would be protection against worse infection.

I watched how Kaizer Chiefs had 30 players and staff immobilized,then Munster 15 players stranded in Cape Town....this stuff is like fire.


Jan 04, 2022, 21:23

I know of a few people who has it now. I was probably exposed too...we'll see.

Jan 04, 2022, 21:36

 

Jan 04, 2022, 22:28

Countries in the Southern Hemisphere are at least getting hit by the highly infectious Omicron in summer, rather than winter. 
The UK has got it right in winter which is the worst possible time. 

Jan 05, 2022, 06:45

We had Delta in the winter...and the Original.

 
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