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Americans do not need to defer to the court that already issued multiple falsified warrants against the former president.

Started by Beeno13 REPLIES313 VIEWS· 10 Aug 2022, 17:14
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Aug 2022, 17:14
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10 Aug 2022, 17:14#1

Note the Constitutional problem the demonrats face oaks. 


After news broke Monday evening that the FBI had raided former President Donald Trump’s Palm Beach Florida home at Mar-a-Lago, the right immediately expressed outrage and warned that by targeting a former president and political opponent, the Biden Administration had crossed the Rubicon.

The left, for its contribution, highlighted the federal statute that provides that a person who “unlawfully conceals” government records shall “be disqualified from holding any office under the United States,” suggesting that the raid’s apparent focus on supposed missing classified documents may render Trump ineligible to run in 2024.

Beyond the constitutional problem with that theory — the U.S. constitution establishes the minimal qualifications to serve as president and Congress cannot expand on those that theory of the raid merely confirms conservatives’ outrage over the DOJ’s continued interference in American’s electoral preferences.

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1556794749377454080

Another theme soon emerged, bandied by those feigning a more balanced tone, that the raid was clearly justified because “a judge had to sign a warrant.” In a similar vein, another segment of politicians and pundits played the news as disconcerting but withheld judgment pending further details from Attorney General Merrick Garland and FBI Director Christopher Wray, calling on both to promptly provide the American public an explanation of the circumstances that could justify the raid of a former president’s home.

As of publication, no explanation has been offered. But it doesn’t matter. No matter what Garland or Wray say, no matter what the FBI attested to in a search warrant application, no matter what cause a federal judge found, Americans won’t trust them and they shouldn’t.

Four fake FISA applications and the ensuing surveillance orders authorized by the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court are the first reason why.

When the public learned that the Department of Justice had obtained a warrant to surveil former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page, the government and the media cartel assured Americans that the FISA court would only authorize such wiretapping if probable cause supported the surveillance. They also assured us that since Page was no longer a member of Trump’s campaign, the FISA orders did not target Trump. And the FISA application process, we were told, was robust, with multiple layers of review. Worry not, the government soothed, all was on the up and up.

But none of it was true. The FISA application process, far from being robust, consisted of rubber-stamping by FBI and DOJ officials who were, at best, willfully blind to the defects in the applications. And the agents who wrote the applications or supposedly reviewed and checked the information provided, either lied, withheld material information, included information disputed by the purported sources, or some combination of the three. In total, the Office of Inspector general found 17 significant inaccuracies or omissions and missed another one.

Later the public learned that in the process of renewing the Page FISA application, attorney Kevin Clinesmith lied and altered an email to hide Page’s work with the CIA and to allow the surveillance to continue. Eventually, the DOJ admitted there was no probable cause to surveil Page. (DISGUSTING!)

Americans would also learn later that notwithstanding the claims that the wiretapping of Page did not reach Trump’s team, that the surveillance did indeed sweep up campaign communications and later conversations between Page and Trump advisors.

Equally damned was the FISA Court which approved the four warrants based on double and triple hearsay of unknown and unverified sources and based on media reporting: Even if every word in the applications were true, the lack of verifiable sources rendered the applications insufficient, as a matter of law, to establish probable cause. Yet, the FISA Court issued not one, but four surveillance orders, none of which was legally justified.

The DOJ, FBI, and the courts likewise proved themselves untrustworthy in the case against Michael Flynn, a Lieutenant General who served this country with bravery and honor for decades. The FBI opened an investigation into Flynn shortly after receiving false information from Stefan Halper that implausibly claimed Flynn left Cambridge with a young woman with Russian roots. Then, after FBI agents decided to close the investigation against Flynn as unfounded, the 7th Floor intervened, and a kill shot was taken against Trump’s incoming National Security Advisor.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s later extracted a plea from Flynn for purportedly lying about a conversation he had during the transition period, by threatening his son. Then, after an independent investigation of the Flynn case revealed there was no basis to charge Flynn, a federal court refused to dismiss the charges — again proving that the courts provide no check on a corrupted FBI.

This synopsis barely scratches the surface of the duplicity and lies advanced by the FBI and the DOJ to destroy a Lieutenant General and a CIA source, all to “get Trump.” And the courts tolerated the abuse.

So, no, Americans do not need to wait for Garland or Wray to explain the basis for the raid; and we do not need to defer to the court that issued the warrant. The same deep state willing to lie and connive to destroy a presidential campaign and the president will be willing to do so again to destroy a former president and potential future presidential candidate.

The lesson has been learned. The question now is what to do, besides dismantling FBI Headquarters.

THE FBI HAS TO BE RAISED TO THE GROUND. THE ONLY QUESTION IS DOES IT NEED TO BE REBUILT A FTER THAT.


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AJHPro3,183 posts
10 Aug 2022, 21:32
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10 Aug 2022, 21:32#2

Amazing that not a single Lefty has responded to your posting.

Just shows that they know you are correct on every point made and that not one of them has the decency to admit the corruption and dishonesty that has been shown over and over.

Politics is a dirty game but the USA has taken it to a higher level than ever thought possible.

The Demorats under Obama and his administration started the rot by staffing the federal departments with their biased followers and kin and this is the result of that action.

Typical third world type of admin similar to most countries in Africa.

Corrupt to the core.

The truth and an Excellent post Beeno.


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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
11 Aug 2022, 00:48
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11 Aug 2022, 00:48#3

LOCK HIM UP, and throw away the key....

Michael Flynn,,, That article initially sounded objective, but by the time it mentions Flynn being a decent person, it becomes a joke. He wanted to be the military head of the coup. 

LOCK HIM UP, and throw away the key....

LOCK HIM UP, and throw away the key....

LOCK HIM UP, and throw away the key....

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Aug 2022, 05:46
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11 Aug 2022, 05:46#4

In the case of Flynn the fact is the FBI asked him for an interview where he was asked about a telephonic discussion he had with the Russian Ambassador and h told them what really happened during the discussion.    He was not under oath and did NOT lie to them about it anyway.   They wrote a report on the issue - but that report was sent to the White house where it was changed again to make it appear that Flynn is guilty of lying to the FBI.   The FBI then threatened to open a case against Flynn's son if he did not admit he lied to them. 

The whole saga was a blackmail farce which ended up as blackmailing of an innocent person to admit he did something he did not do.     When the real truth that came out afterwards were exposed the case against Flynn was withdrawn.     Be it as it may it was a disgrace and typpical Police State conduct at the pleasure of the Obama's White House.

When official lies became the norm in any judicial process it is dangerous and ended up in dictatorial conduct by any Government.    What is happening in the USA is a total disgrace and a total attack on Democracy and I am afraid that idiots who argue in favor of the Police State actions by a disgraced FBI is also arguing for a police state scenario implementation.    As bad as anything happening in a dictatorship anywhere in the World.

Lies and Kangaroo Show Court conduct as was typical in show trials in the USSR under Stalin is destroying the USA - sad to see how that happened under the Democrats.   What Zuma did in SA in State Capture of the Prosecuting authority and Government Service was crude - but Obama and the Democrats did wore things than that and everybody on site is happy about it.   

I think this episode is going to destroy the Democrats as a Party and that the interim election is going to be a first step towards that destruction.    

     



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