Breaking: Russia Convenes UN Security Council Meeting to Present BioLab Evidence — Friday at 11 AM

This is going to be very interesting oaks. i cannot but wonder what else the Russians could come up with. Think of all he corruption that happened in Ukraine related to the Biden crime family, Obama, Kerrys, Pelosis Romneys etc. 

Bye the way the Ukraine is rated as the fourth most corrupt nation on earth. a playground for US globalist elites to make huge amounts of money.

Under Secretary Victoria Nuland was involved in the last  US sponsored coup which saw the duly elected pro Russia PM ousted.

I hope Plum saw that Biden is going after crypto. I hope you dont come to any harm Plum.

Meanwhile the 9 pages of side effects revealed in the latest 55,000 release of Pfizer documents is making waves. Dr mozzzzz should sell his stocks if he wants to keep his ill gotten gains.

The whole rotten bag of lies regarding Covid and the deadly jab is unravelling at quite rate now.

so much news but very little on this site. But congrats to Mike on picking up on the Ukraine Bio labs - I think they said there were 27 of them. Th US has some 330 such labs around the world. 

The USA under Globalist rule is a great threat to humanity. Trump cant get back soon enough. Firing the Uniparty Rinos and taking back the House and Senate in Novem ber will help.

Update: U.N pushed back the time from 10 am to 11am EST.

Friday is going to be a very bad day for the United States. Sixty years ago (yes, I was alive then) the United States roasted the Soviet Union in a UN Security Council meeting convened over the Cuban Missile Crisis. There is an old saying, “revenge is a dish best served cold.” Russia is going to dump a load of frozen food on the United States tomorrow at 11 am by exposing U.S. support to Ukraine over the last 17 years for research into biological and chemical weapons.

U.S. intelligence analysts last week were alarmed when they obtained intelligence showing that Russian Chemical and Biological Weapons units were activated and moving into Ukraine. These analysts knew nothing of what the Department of Defense had been doing in Ukraine in terms of funding military bioweapons laboratories in Ukraine. Without that knowledge, they concluded that Russia was preparing to use chemical and/or biological weapons. Understandable, but wrong.

The Russian units were deployed to secure those bioweapons labs. And in the process of securing them they have recovered a treasure trove of documents showing the United States has violated the international accord governing Chemical and Biological Weapons.

Tomorrow (Friday), Russia is going to expose the United States as a gross violator of the CONVENTION ON THE PROHIBITION OF THE DEVELOPMENT, PRODUCTION AND STOCKPILING OF BACTERIOLOGICAL (BIOLOGICAL)
AND TOXIN WEAPONS AND ON THEIR DESTRUCTION.

This will turn into a farce - the US will reject the evidence provided.   There should be an international and neutral investigation of the situation - but the USA as an accused party in this case would reject any investigation.   They would probably be supported by the UK, Germany and France - who will come out looking bad if the allegations are found to be the truth.      

What you think is balanced and what Biden and they Globalists think is balanced could be worlds apart. 

If they are able to regulate Crypto its a big risk. 

From what I have heard a world bank for the world government will have one and only one crypto currency. It's a question of when which depends on the Globalist winning their war against humanity. 

It's about total control. 

The USA and EU Globalist Mike can bleat all they want but if the evidence is head enough many many countries will not believe them. 

Personally I think the USA has been caught out big time. Let's see what happens. 

SB

The Democratic Party's collusion lies was a playbook of the Party and the fake media for four years and you were one of the great believers in that.   There was ample evidence that it was the Democrats who colluded and were bribed by Putin.   It was a fake campaign  all along.   Trump was made out to be subservient to Putin - which was a lie swallowed by the gullible.

If this is indeed a Russian lie - they will be guilty of the same thing the Democrats were guilty of in the period 2016 to 2020.   People know the latter campaign was based on Democratic Party lies and reasonable  people believe that it was nonsense.   The Durham investi gation has now proved that it was strings of unstoppable lies.   

What I drive at and the funding of the  Russian Collusion lies and the funding of the  Wuhan Lab and lies attached to it,  make me hesitant to believe the US Government comprising of Biden and co.   The fact is I am in favor of an independent investigation of the whole saga and all allegations.   

One can only hope that the USA is not guilty of illegal bio-weapon development in Ukraine through funding and active participation.   If that be the case a new Nuremberg  trial will be necessary.   Be it as it may - the Biden Administration is an enemy of the truth anyway and has a long record of lies to the public    Are they lying in this case as well?             

SB

The Russians did not use gas attacks in Syria - the Syrians and their Iran partners did that.    The reaction of Obama was that if such a weapon is used - it would pass a red line.  The Syrians ignored the BSter and used gas attacks and Obama did zero about it.   

The gas were part of chemical weaponry - not  bioweaponry.   Both are forbidden by International Law.         

So the Russians had nothing but t he accusation….I’m truly amazed how many posters on this site side with the country killing women and children and destroying cities.

It beggars belief the number of morons that support a regime that if they took power in your country you would lose your freedom but these idiots are so brainwashed against the anything liberal they are praying for a monster to overthrow the free west.

The world has gone mad and the really insane seem to be on this site.

Beenshit we always knew was fucked in the head but who would have thought he would take so many on this site down the rabbit hole. Still its easy to brainwash the mentally impaired so we expected mike and seb to go that way

"I’m truly amazed how many posters on this site side with the country killing women and children and destroying cities."

They're all brainwashed Trumpanzees who were stupid enough to buy into the bullshit from a conceited self-serving bungling fool like Bozo. Why is this more amazing than that?

I'm very much opposed to the invasion of Ukraine,  but how is this different from the US invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan?...and what the US did in Libya?

They should have the Convention clause dealing with the production of chemical and biological weapons activated to investigate the claims of the Russians - if they were lying about the issue it would be exposed by the investigation.

The proof they did provide and circulated related to the funding by the USA Defense Department of the biolabs.  If it was indeed for innocent purposes with a medical objective - funding should come from the US Health Department - but then we will be back to the Wuhan Lab funding scandal, where the US was funding gain in function research which ultimately let to the present pandemic.      

The US reached an agreement with Ukraine and Russia to decommission the labs in 2005 - but 17 years later the labs are   still in operation and funded by the USA - for what purpose was that?    

CF

Over the past decades the USA developed a system  of lies in starting wars and in politics that is then used as factual by the brainwashing fake media.   That was often discovered to be nothing but lies.

There is a long list of such examples going to the Iraq wars and subsequently.   Thinking people has learned from that - the easily brainwashed not - and question the USA honesty when it comes to military and political issues.   

Whenever a new situation arises the previous lies are borne in mind by thinking people who are interested in the truth and the fact that democracy is being undermined by lies and often enough by corruption make them question the USA allegations.   

Fact is the  people who scream others are undermining democracy in fact are the real under-miners of Democracy.   There are many of those examples and they are coming thick and fast under the Biden regime.   In fact it has nothing to do with liberalism and everything to do with undermining of democracy.   This tendency is particularly noticeable since the start of 2020 and those are continuing unabated under the Biden Regime. 

L ets put it mildly - Russia China are bad - the USA is worse when it comes to destruction of democracy.  

Well the day Russia or China roll into your city and do what they do don't come whining to me, well you won't be able to even if you wanted because free speech is the first thing you will lose

"Lets put it mildly - Russia China are bad - the USA is worse when it comes to destruction of democracy."

What you claim is unlikely to happen and if it happens it will be with  the blessing of the present USA Government.   I think that happening is likely to be in Taiwan, South Korea and Australia  in that order.   

I am for democracy and definitely against lying and corrupt Governments.   

Denny

Do you want examples?   Start in 2020 with the riots in cities all over the USA by the terrorist subsidiaries of the Democratic Party BLM and Antifa.   The riots according to the fake media was peaceful - but it was anything but with 45 murders occurring - over 700 police officers seriously injured (many by Molotov cocktails) and thousands of businesses looted and burned down causing about $2,5 billion in property damages.   The Democratic Party provided the funding (with the assistance of Soros) and provide accommodation and transport costs and the looted items  were for the looters to keep their spoils.   There were thousands of arrests made - but only a few actually charged and fined for looting - a Democratic Party subsidiary operated in liaison with Deputy President Harris - paid the fines.   The rest were just released without charges.  

Second example - Biden governs by issuing mandates - there are hundreds of those - which should go to Congress within six months for condonation.   It just does not happen.   When taken to court the y are routinely ruled against - but the Democrats ignore the rulings of the courts and carry on regardless.

The Open Border policy of Biden is totally unconstitutional and is undermining democracy.   

The Zuma Government in SA stands accused of State Capture with two key elements the Police Service and the Prosecuting authority.  One wonders whether  Obama learned from Zuma how to protect corrupt politicians from prosecution?   The FBI and Justice Department have been captured and the only problem is that the state and local police have not been - hence the Democratic Party efforts to defund such police - with crime being out of control.  .

The list is much longer and I can go on and on about the issue.           

I distinguish between Iraq and Afghanistan. In the case of Afghanistan 9/11 was launched from that country. I was in NY when the Twin Towers were under construction and I had a meeting scheduled in them some ten days after they fell. I still have my Twin Towers security card.

The need to take action was justified. Four thousand people died, people were jumping out of 80th story windows

But because America likes  to see itself as a moral entity, it was also repurposed to redress Afghanistan’s brutalities,  eg to women. But as with many of these well intended  efforts it failed. It would have been better to establish a no fly zone and bomb the Afghan military into the Stone Age….and not put one US soldier on Afghan soil.

Iraq was a naive  idea and a failure of intelligence. In a post 9/11 world not allowing a terrorist nation to have WMD made sense. But Saddam was never going to be a terrorist agent…it was always about him.

In modern times, post WW2,  I can’t think of one instance where invading a weaker nation has really worked out well, Ukraine won’t either.

The US since WW2 have interfered  with elections and supported uprisings against elected Governments many times and this was also the case in Ukraine in 2014.   Very few of those has been through military usage.    

However, that is not really the topic here.    There is a question I asked  before - what is this obsession by the USA funding biological research in other countries?   Why in the case of Ukraine was the funding going through the Defense Department and not the Health Department if the objective was medical research related to public health?            

Never trusted the USA I mean after all they did give mankind Mac's, Burger King and Dairy Queen to name a few.

But they have always been "dealers" in other countries affairs with dire consequences to many of those countries.

MADE IN THE USA should also stay in the USA.

If in this case it is true that these "Labs" received funding from the USA Military then that in itself is a  crime against humanity.

Any military funding is never ever used for peaceful purposes, and certainly not the USA Military.

The only reason these labs were funded outside the USA was to keep it secret, away from the citizens of the USA and the world.

Warmongers and scumbags to the core.

The question now is how high up was this known in the USA government circles and who, when  and why was it set up.

Plus what was the reason for these labs in the fist place.

If not to be used in military action what other reason is their for such experiments and how did these products undergo testing on humans or animals.

What a sick world we really have become since WW 2.

The US military went into the Congo and stopped Ebola. The military has a long history in dealing with epidemics. I’m against all this experimentation on infectious diseases though. 

But trying to use this as an excuse for the destruction and murder going on in the Ukraine is nonsense.

When was that one Mozart - what year?   The UN had some army units in the Congo - but cannot recollect that the US was part of that. 

I agree with you that the invasion of Ukraine should never have occurred.   It could have been avoided by negotiation in good faith  - but there  were no negotiation in good faith that would remove Russia's anxieties about the situation in Ukraine.    There were serious problems affecting the ethnic Russians living in Ukraine because of a Communist decision in 1953 by changing the borders of Ukraine to ensure that Ukraine has a majority ethnic Russian population.    Those were the people under constant attack by elements in Ukraine after the 2014 civil war.   Those attacks should have been banned by the EU countries.   

Russia has not moved outside the ethnic Russian areas in Ukraine and has in most cases attacked strategic infrastructure outside of those areas through missiles and not entered the areas itself.   .           

Agree with you mozart.

The issue really is about these labs.

What is taking place now with the Russian invasion is difficult to understand but then again if you keep poking a dog with a stick the dog is eventually going to get angry and respond accordingly.

Not agreeing with Putin's actions.

I think Plum's example of the Russian placing Nuclear missiles along the southern USA border in Mexico and asking what the USA response would be is a great example.

No one cared to reply to his example.

Remember the Cuban Missile Crisis and those missiles well the USA did not take kindly to that plan.

An agreement was made that on the break up of the USSR no Warsaw Pack country would be allowed to become a NATO member.

Guess what happened to that agreement.

Correct not followed.

What is good for the Goose is also good for the Gander.

Good points all Arthur….there are many in the West who are implacably anti Russian. That resulted in many slights…the Russians  have every reason to feel aggrieved. But this attack unfortunately has them fulfilling all their stereotypes. It’s a horrible mistake.

The Russians should be part of Europe, their music and literature are central to Western culture. But have they yet to produce a government that satisfies today’s norms. Who wants to live in a country where free speech is not protected.

US military Ebola response:

The subsequent mobilization was objectively staggering. What the Army initially planned as a 25-bed field hospital grew into a 3,000-troop deployment, complete with six research labs. The U.S. undertook 350 strategic and 161 intra-theater airlift missions and moved over 6,000 personnel in-theater, along with 10,000 tons of cargo. U.S. Africa Command set up more than 400 contracts worth a combined $120 million to get all the moving parts of this deployment to work together. The U.S. military essentially transported an armed, high-tech hospital 7,500 kilometers across an ocean in a matter of weeks.

Thanks Mozart - in view of the continued civil wars and uprisings in the Congo - it was necessary to use military resources to evacuate patients from the Congo.   They were delivered to US Hospitals for treatment if necessary.   Essentially it was a rescue operation in the end funded by the Health Department and executed by the military,

It can never be compared to the situation where the US Defense Department funded  bio-labs in Ukraine.   I am afraid the whole lot is now in panic.   You quoted from an article in the Guardian  that the WHO knew about the Labs and  there was nothing wrong with the research work undertaken by the Labs.   That is not a reliable source at all - it was clear from their handling of the Wuhan issue.  Trump suspended US membership of the WHO because of the  total protection of the Chinese Government when it came to the Covid 19 pandemic.   Biden cancelled the suspension and the WHO know they are in dangerous territory of losing money if they do not support the US in this.

These labs should not b allowed to operate in other countries and funded by the USA  -  in this case it is  clearly a totally out of order   illegal operation carried out by the US Government.