Dear Donald, sadly one can’t make this trip ....

Maybe, but I gave you an off ramp a few times on this string, you couldn’t relent. You want me to to admit “I’m wrong”.

But actually I’m not ….the chain of logic is, I see another TDS post disguised as humor. I read a few lines and move on. Then I see one poster making a comment about what a great item it is….effectively providing moral support.

I comment that the Board is full of discredited TDS junk that get ‘likes’.

You try to link that specifically to the lead post. I say I wasn’t thinking about that, but what I was thinking about when you interjected, was your clueless support of Mick’s $300 trillion.

But you obsess about the lead article, which hardly registered with me……on and on trying to get me to say I was wrong when I was on a different page.

Could I have posted elsewhere….sure and I have. The idea was presented not by the lead article but the atta boy.

Then we had the two day Inspector Javert pursuit by you. To me it seems abnormal….you aren’t dealing with some interesting debate….but you are obsesssed. You may think it’s rich, but I think you’re regressing

TDS... Trump is threatening to destroy a country - potentially using nuclear weapons, and this is TDS.

Trump's cult has TDS. No matter what he does, they will support him to the end. My Fuhrer...

Ja Moz, it's back to the usual...pity.

You might start by asking yourself why it’s so important for me to be wrong…to me it’s a game, a sort of Scarlet Pimpernel exercise. Not important, but I enjoy the game…..to you it seems more weighty.

That’s all I’m saying. There’s no payoff going back to the Cold War.

Sure Shark and the adults believe that….Trump is presenting Iran with a number of ‘insurance’ proposals……pay this small price or you will have to pay a bigger one. They can’t be sure which one is real….he is jerking their strings and his jerking your’s.

The art of the deal? Bluffing about wiping out a civilisation.

Even if Trump does not follow through, how can anyone justify or support this.

This will just create problems for future generations. Iranians are going to hate Americans now more than ever. And they will now certainly get nukes.

A poor choice of words….he should have said ‘a regime will end tonight’. Persia will certainly not be destroyed.

My guess is Iran says no and we take out a few bridges and a power plant. Whatever happens will happen in stages, with the pressure ratcheting up on Iran at each step.

No matter what he does, they will support him to the end. My Fuhrer...

It’s true to Trump’s words when he said, “I could stand on Main Street in New York, shoot someone, and my followers would still support me.”

As we’ve experienced, he has never spoken a truer statement.

Hogbek

Doing a better job than the fool who was in charge of the withdrawal from Afghanistan a few years ago...you lot have short memory...

SB

TDS... Trump is threatening to destroy a country - potentially using nuclear weapons, and this is TDS.

Trump's cult has TDS. No matter what he does, they will support him to the end. My Fuhrer...

B S again. The Ayatollah lover in you took over, Iran has for years threaten to udevelop and use nucler wdapons to wipe out Israel and you supported them in your postings now. Trump will never use nuclear arms - even low radiation bombs declared by the Geneva Convention used by Bush in Iran and byy Boiden threatening to prov same to Ukraine, Th rsult was the death of millions of children in Iraq/ Biden chickened out and did not provide it to Ukraine.

Well - we do not support craziness we leave it to you to invent things on this site never even under consideration.

It's very clear that some people here would fully support not bombing a confirmed underground nuclear missile site in Iran, if women and children were waving peaceful flags of protest at the gates of the complex.....

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WTobiasJr

5 hours ago

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I actually feel like I'm trapped in some 1970s science fiction movie.

Did you ever imagine the president of the USA publicly and explicitly threatening genocide and war crimes, AND THEN gets to remain in office?!

Rod Serling I believe worked on the screen play for the original 1968 version of Planet of the Apes. Even he would have struggled to imagine what has come to pass.

cailleach

5 hours ago

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Great cartoon. So often, visuals and images capture what words fail to. This incarnation of' Liberty 'looks much more likely to trample the poor, oppressed and huddled masses, yearning to be free than to shelter tgem.

I'm all out of words to describe my feelings about Trump. But here's a quote from Hilaire Belloc that could be argued fits the bill pretty neatly, if not briefly. He might not have had a Trumpian figure in mind when he wrote it,but anyway....

'The barbarian hopes, and the is the mark of him, that he can have his cake and eat it too. He will consume what civilisation has slowly produced after generations of effort, but he will not be at pains to replace such goods, not has he the comprehension of the virtues that brought them into being.....He cannot make, he can only befog and destroy. He cannot sustain.

We sit by and watch the barbarian. We tolerate him in the long stretches of peace; we are not afraid. We are tickled by his irreverence, his comic inversion of our old certitudes and fixed creeds refreshes us. We laugh..

But as we laugh , we are watched by strange and awful faces, and on those faces there are no smiles'.

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