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Dr Mike Yeadon, Chief former Scientist Of Pfizer

Started by Seb19 REPLIES992 VIEWS· 04 Nov 2021, 16:37
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SebPro2,680 posts
04 Nov 2021, 16:37
#1
04 Nov 2021, 16:37#1

Put this in your pipe and smoke it.


https://youtu.be/gz7k7kXskaQ


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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
04 Nov 2021, 16:51
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04 Nov 2021, 16:51#2
If Mike Yeadon's opinion has value, then so do other scientists...
Basically, if 99% of scientists say ABC, why believe the 1% that say XYZ.
If you are a sheep without logical ability, rather follow the bigger herd- not the outlier. 

Especially given the proof of vaccines performance, with no noticeable side effects- other than a few days after a jab. 

Sure there could be long term impacts that no one is aware of yet, but surely it would happen to at least some people sooner. 
The same could be set about other new vaccines or drugs that go through similar testing procedures. 





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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Nov 2021, 17:12
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04 Nov 2021, 17:12#3

My name is ‘Dr Mike Yeadon’ with the emphasis on “Dr”….no his name is Mike Yeadon. What a tit. And what a fake:

‘ It quotes Mike Yeadon, a man it identifies as the former chief scientist at Pfizer, warning that a small percentage of these folks will be dead within weeks and the rest will have an average life expectancy of two years.

I’ll be honest. When I first saw the post, I thought it might be satire, a claim so absurd as to be beyond belief.

I had never heard of Yeadon, but a quick internet search revealed he was never the chief science officer at Pfizer. According to a fact check by Snopes.com, that job has been held by a man named Mikael Dolsten since 2010.

Yeadon did work for Pfizer. He was vice president and chief scientific officer for Pfizer’s United Kingdom-based allergy and respiratory unit until that unit shut down in 2011.

And just to be clear, the division had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious diseases. It was focused on developing drugs to treat asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.’

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Nov 2021, 17:13
#4
04 Nov 2021, 17:13#4

But trust Chabal to be smoking it….along with all the other stuff he smokes.LOL!

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SebPro2,680 posts
04 Nov 2021, 17:44
#5
04 Nov 2021, 17:44#5

There is so much deception in the world that nobody truly knows what it is all about Mr Knowall...the proof of the pudding is in the eating of it...only time will tell.

But one thing is for sure, we'll all know sometime, maybe sooner than later. 

You certainly know sweet fanny adams what I believe and my life and I don't swallow anything from people I don't know and trust, least of all from you.

I did make a foolish judgement though...I thought at one stage you were quite a decent fella, how wrong I was. I can now see why others find you shallow, vain, pompous and deceitful.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Nov 2021, 18:28
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04 Nov 2021, 18:28#6

Here’s the thing…..I have always given you a pass. But of late it’s become clear to me you reflexively take the opposite position to me on every issue…..frequently piling on trying to score points with the mob.

That makes you fair game, so saddle up sonny.

But if you can show me where I have ever been deceitful on this Board, I’ll buy you a Lambie doll. Vain sure….but no more than most former CEOs. Shallow, not really, the opposite actually. Pompous….nope….it’s you that is actually painfully  verbose and pompous. My style is much crisper.

As for your judgements on a ‘Dr’ Mike Yeadon ’  vs a Pfizer….one man who last worked for them in a different field 10 years ago vs an institution of smart people….I know where I will place my bets. 


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SebPro2,680 posts
04 Nov 2021, 19:04
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04 Nov 2021, 19:04#7

You are wrong. I care little what others think but I do try to be polite and light-hearted which is often misunderstood.. Neither do I consciously oppose you or anybody on what I think. I just try to be true to what I believe in and if you see that as deliberate you are mistaken. 

On the contrary it appears to me that you and your side-kick oppose certain players in rugby (and other sports) with such vehemence without any recognition when they play well. It seems that opinions are fixed without any quarter irrespective whether they do good or not.

Once enjoyed our little post on Dmitri Hvorostovs ky as I was a huge fan of this wonderful person.

I'm very aware of my short comings as well but I am very much my own man and care little about group thought.

Sigma personality or so I'm told but in truth I'm an odd mixture of other lesser traits. Like I'm never scared to be open and make myself vulnerable at times. 

I do care about people but prefer close friendships and am certainly not a fairweather type, prefering quality to quantity.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Nov 2021, 20:21
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04 Nov 2021, 20:21#8

Okay Chabal, let’s make a fresh start. I actually enjoy some of your quirky material  like the weightlifter string and I always appreciate the non conventional view. That used to be England’s great advantage over the world…they bred Mavericks like Darwin.

On rugby I see the hero worship of Pieter Steff du Toit and to me it’s unfair to other players, Etzebeth for example, who carry the load. Our commentators never say ‘Du Toit’ made the tackle….it’s always ‘Pieter-Steff du Toit  made the tackle’. …always an emphasis. The bias is palpable.

Under Erasmus we rediscovered the Bok virtues I always suggested we rediscover. I give him credit for that….but he has created no new team skills, hardly found any new players and reduced the Springbok image beyond the borders.

To me he is a mixed bag.

Besides we have to have different points of view otherwise the Board stagnates…..disagreement and debate makes it interesting.

But I still think Dimitri Hovorostovsky who was so sadly taken from us is the finest baritone I have heard and a wonderful showman. And I also think the Brothers Karamazov is at the very pinnacle of novels written. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Nov 2021, 20:24
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04 Nov 2021, 20:24#9

Snopes isn't what they used to be, but Yeadon made some bold statements without really providing proof...this whole thing has become polarized ideologies with lot's of disinformation on both sides and no history of success or failure to really test/back-up the assertions...only time will tell. Hope both sides are wrong...I don't like the extremes the world has become...the middle ground is gone...flooded with BS from the 2 extremes.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
04 Nov 2021, 20:39
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04 Nov 2021, 20:39#10

I don't like the extremes the world has become...the middle ground is gone...flooded with BS from the 2 extremes.

Ditto. You cannot question a narrative from one extreme without being unceremoniously lumped in with the other extreme.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Nov 2021, 21:12
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04 Nov 2021, 21:12#11

Ja Pakie, but sadly very few people realize this...weird...

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SebPro2,680 posts
04 Nov 2021, 22:57
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04 Nov 2021, 22:57#12

I can say this I don't trust Pharma companies and I once worked for J&J in Mowbray/ Observatory Cape Town and did not like their ethics in many things they did which I'm not prepared to discuss. It's a huge company and has many divisions and subsidiaries one of the biggest companies in world. 

Later on a orthopod who was instrumental in saving me from amputation and likely death from a resilient infection (necrotising faciitis) who now operates in New York was involved in a huge court case against Du Puy (part of J&J group in a Hip Implant defect on one of their products. They stood to lose one billion dollars but was eventually settled for $500,000,000.  The case was held in Dallas.

"DePuy, a subsidiary of Johnson and Johnson, has been sued along with J&J for their metal-on-metal Pinnacle hip devices, due to the release of cobalt and chromium metals into a patient’s body, resulting in the onset of metallosis, pseudotumors, and other adverse medical conditions which require surgery to remove the defective device, as well as ongoing treatment to address the related side effects."

JOHNSON & JOHNSON ACCUSED OF WITNESS TAMPERING IN TWO DIFFERENT TRIALS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY | | Mass Tort Nexus

They are not nice people. These Pharma companies have ruthless and aggressive marketing strategies. 

This ex scientist of Pfizer could well be talking the truth...he's got nothing to gain and everything to lose.

I'm not saying he's right in all aspects but where there is smoke there is fire and more importantly, "fools rush in where angels fear to tread".

And Draad is right sadly only time will reveal the truth. Personally I'm prepared to take a calculated risk now as I'm healthy and fit, by saying no to be injected with a fluid I don't trust...if I die so be it but I've lost a mother from cancer and that type of death I never want to go through in 5 or more years time when I'm old and cannot cope... and yes, I really hope I am wrong.

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
05 Nov 2021, 02:34
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05 Nov 2021, 02:34#13

sebastienchabal

Bok regular

1481 posts


Personally I'm prepared to take a calculated risk now as I'm healthy and fit, by saying no to be injected with a fluid I don't trust...if I die so be it...  I never want to go through in 5 or more years time when I'm old and cannot cope... and yes, I really hope I am wrong.


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---You hope that your decision to not take the vaccine is wrong?
It makes sense that your decision is wrong, but it is a surprise that you want to be proved wrong. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Nov 2021, 07:53
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05 Nov 2021, 07:53#14

He hope he's wrong for the sake of all the people who have taken the vaccines despite himself...

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SebPro2,680 posts
05 Nov 2021, 10:59
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05 Nov 2021, 10:59#15

Shark you are a very strange fish...common sense and context tells you what is meant by this statement...nobody wants to gloat at others error if the consequences are harmful unless you are sick in the head...yes nobody knows the truth behind all this...we all are victims one way or another and we are accountable for choices, it's our free will. I meant this sincerely and wish every body well.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Nov 2021, 11:03
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05 Nov 2021, 11:03#16

Stuff's pretty screwed.

We're all resting semi-easily in the hope that if there are any vaccine side effects down the road we should be able to hold those responsible accountable. 

Will it be that simple though?

Some authoritative body issues data. Then someone else reveals issues with how said data was collected, counter, smear, Fox/CNN...politics. Before you know it, you've moved a million miles away from the data while relying more on politics to make an assessment of it. And this is happening now! It's very clearly been a massive problem with how all this has been handled. And that's before we consider that China is likely responsible for this while seemingly being let off the hook.

Simpletons like Viskop will claim that only conspiracists draw the line between the accepted narratives and other/differing points of view. That's simply not the case. 

For me, if the waters are pretty murky right now, I can't see them being any clearer or easier to navigate ten years down the line when one may be attempting to litigate entities in regards to vaccine side effects.

Pretty screwed indeed.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Nov 2021, 11:06
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05 Nov 2021, 11:06#17

Seb, 

Viskop isn't a strange fish.

Numpties aren't special!

They're extremely dumb, not very rare.

haha

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
05 Nov 2021, 11:35
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05 Nov 2021, 11:35#18
So, what is the end game of the vaccine by politicians and by Big Pharma?

Spit out exactly what you believe the conspiracy to be... Is it to kill people, or insert a tracking chip into them? 

Was China part of the plan? It would certainly change the complexion of a conspiratorial reality if China were part of the game all along. So how can it be China's fault if they were part of this globalist plan?
The scientists and executives of Pfizer have all taken the drug, as well as their families.
All conspiracy can be debunked because of this very fact. 

The problem with anti-vaxxers is that they are just below average IQ. Conservatives, centrists, and liberals have taken the vaccine, the prevailing trend shows it is more about intelligence than ideology. 
No, and religious belief - does not count as a legitimate reason to not take the vaccine in the 21st century. 
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Nov 2021, 12:28
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05 Nov 2021, 12:28#19
See what I mean? The point was that, no matter who you are, you don’t know what the long term side effects are. Nobody does. …and people should realise if there are provable long term side effects, it’s not a given that justice/compensation/honesty/insight will follow. VisKop, stick to surfing. I’m tired of watching you miss the boat.
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SebPro2,680 posts
06 Nov 2021, 07:48
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06 Nov 2021, 07:48#20

Mozart I see where you got your comments on Mike Yeadon...you simply copied and pasted some this article :

Kelly Hawes column: Sorting the crazies from the experts | Opinion | heraldbulletin.com

This article, incidentally has been debunked too by medical professionals as well ie 

Dr Mark GerhardMAY 8, 2021

What a shoddy, badly-written article! Dr Yeadon is a highly respected virologist who has been at the top of his profession for several decades. Why didn't you take the trouble to ask other virologists for their opinion of the concerns he raised? Instead, you attempted to smear his reputation by copying and pasting comments you found online.

What part of 'balanced' and 'objective' did you fail to understand during your training? Or do you not have any journalistic training?


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