Beenz, the usual suspect's ure trying their utmost to convince everyone else that they are right and their rivals are wrong...re-writing th e Freedom Charter or Bill of Rights in the process (depending on their PsOV)...Kindergarten brawl of note...run for it!
Ed, could you pretty please.......
Folau condemed about 80% of the world population with his extensive list. Why do you only mention the Capetown gays association? What about drunks and adulters, fornicators etc.
I think this is all reverse phycology. You know that is as Christians go, you are one of the ones with the least chance of getting into heaven. So you get phycological gratification by trying to quote select verses from the Bible, as if that makes you a person that will get into heaven.
We all know that if Heaven exists, you have a very small chance of making the grade.The Devil awaits you and Cleancutt, his soon to be mail order Gay bride bitches...
Current day laws protect against discrimination based on religion, gender, and sexual orientation- along with others. Everyone has the right to believe what they want, but they can't use some primitive texts to insult other people.
The reality is that the smartest people in the world such as scientists, also happen to be on average the least religious. As much as you want to believe in God, the afterlife - the reality is you have serious reservations if it all a hoax.
All these videos that you watch - every day you seek to build your confidence that it is actually real because deep down you know or suspect it is not true. It is just some man-made stuff. A more on a bygone era.
If this stuff was true then:1. Christians would be as a statistical average smarter than Atheists, or agnostic.2. Christians would be as a statistical average richer than Atheists, or agnostic.3. Christians would be as a statistical average be people with better practical morals than Atheists, or agnostic. (Not just talking, but actually doing in real-life).
These are not true. some examples1. Northern USA is smarter than the Southern USA. Southern USA is more religious2. Northern Europe is smarter than Southern Europe. Northern Europe has more agnostic and atheists.3. Protestants are statistically smarter and richer than Catholics. Catholics are more religious.
While the moral side is harder to prove, the statistics of smarter and richer are beyond debate. Why is this the case? It is pretty obvious actually. Non-religious people are more spiritual to the purpose of life than religious people are- and therefore are statistically on average better.
If you were honest(and smarter) you would understand that Folau's list means you are going to hell. You tick more boxes than most about going to hell.
And going to Church asking for forgiveness every so often, or lying to yourself by not admitting you are guilty most of Folau's list - does not mean you and Folau are on the same side. Pretending that you are anti-gay as if you are some Disciple spreading the word of God is a joke. Folau's hinks he is an Apostle, and you are a sinning Ball follower. Every Christian has their own brand of religion, where they selectively bend the dogma of the bible to portray themselves in a positive light.
Shark, you are the everything you accuse Beeno of being, only with a different belief...at least Beeno beliefs in Something, you belief in nothing....you are s strong believer in nothing, just because you are told that there are people more clever than you who also believe in nothing, you think it makes it true and justifies your belief....good luck with that....most of the statistics you quote are slanted, just like the polls that predicted that Trump had a less than 5% chance of becoming president.
You make a habit of anti Christian essays, not only cut and pastes like Beeno, but walls of text to castigate Beenz for propagating his beliefs...and the irony is lost on you. You might not realize it, but you are behaving like a textbook fascist...you are allowed to say what you want because you are right...he must keep quiet because he is wrong! LMFAO!
I see.
So let me get this straight Ceradunce, your post at 14h33 which not only followed directly after my post at 13h51 but started off by quoting my entire post was . . . ummmm . . . not actually aimed at me?
Is that what you'd have us believe?
If that is the case, then may I suggest that in future - when you're replying to a post - that you don't quote some other random post at the start of your own post . . . because most normal people would think you're replying to the post that you're quoting at the start.
Ceradunce, I have certain tick boxes when it comes to other posters . . . I have tick boxes for stupidity, cowardice, lies and boredom. You have occasionally ticked the stupidity and boredom boxes for me over the years but I can't think of too many times you've ticked the lying and cowardice boxes. Your latest reply to me ticks both.
Pascal's wager....
...but I'm not a Christian because of any advantages I might get in the afterlife, I'm in it because I believe it's the right and just way...it leads to order and prosperity...this world would be an utopia if people could actually live like Jesus said we should....the strife and turmoil caused by religion happens when people try to exploit it to manipulate others .
Discernment is impossible when you are looking to prove an preconceived idea/opinion...self-justification leads to a closed mind.
He lived into his thirties, never had any known relationship with a woman, surrounded himself with men and his disciple John was the person he loved most . . . not to mention his last night on earth as a mortal man when he was found in the company of a "half-naked young man" in the Garden of Gethsemane just before his arrest . . . after checking three times to make sure his disciples weren't watching him!
(Mark 14:51,52)
Sounds pretty gay to me.
So was Jesus a sick pervert or does he get exemption?
"when it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that Jesus was gay."
That's the problem...half a brain, try using the other half for something other than hate and causing mischief...
"Rooinek was walking through the woods. ‘What majestic trees! What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!’ he said to himself.
As he was walking alongside the river, he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look and saw a seven foot grizzly bear charge towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing in on him. He looked over his shoulder again, and the bear was even closer. He tripped and fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw that the bear was right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him.
At that instant Roiinek cried out ‘Oh my God!’
Time stopped.
The bear froze.
The forest was silent.
As a bright light shone upon him, a voice came out of the sky. ‘You deny my existence for all these years, teach others I don’t exist and even credit creation to a cosmic accident. Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?’ Rooi looked directly into the light: ‘It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask you to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps you could ma ke the bear a Christian?’
‘Very well’ said the voice.
The light went out.
The sounds of the forest resumed.
And the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together, bowed his head and spoke: ‘Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen.’
Sharkbok you still don't get it. Amazing really after all the times it has been explained to you.
Listen NOBODY is good enough in themselves to go to Heaven. There is a price to be paid for sin. Jesus paid the price for my sin. i receive what he has done for me, bearing my sin on the cross, and am forgiven. He paid the price for me that i would not have to pay it. My redemption has been paid for by the shedding of Christs blood. Jesus gave His life for me so that i may live. There is no other Name given under Heaven and earth whereby men must be saved. Jesus has saved me. He is the Saviour.
Either you repent and receive the pardon Jesus offers or you will bear the penalty of your sin yourself.
Can you understand this?
Yes, yes rooitwit we all know you hate God and don't want to be with Him in eternity. But one hopes you too will be saved. What a trophy of grace ou rooitwit will make! Right now you are blind to truth and rant and rave about matters you know nothing about.
Nope Rooi, there is nothing logical to it and it's obvious that you have a gay obsession, so discussing anything gay with you is even gayer. Your hate is obvious...and hate comes from somewhere...go look for the source and when you find it we can start discussing the real issues...
(Mark 14:51,52)
Sounds pretty gay to me."
Go on then Draadtrekker, tell me the bits you disagree with.
The floor is all yours.
The floor is all yours."
A long and rather stunned silence ensues . . .
Rooi, I'm not gonna waste my time on this with someone who just want to mock, spite and ridicule for the hell of it...and in a dishonest way to boot. If you really want to discuss this, go and read all 4 Gospels thoroughly. Then you revise your statement above to resemble the actual story better. Then you can first tell me what in that 4 Books are historically factual and what parts are BS in your opinion....aaand then we can start discussing your take on things.
But that's not your aim in this is it? You are here to mock and to ridicule something that is sacred to me...go ahead, but don't expect me to play along on your childish terms.
Noted.
A rather typical response from a brainwashed bible-basher.
Anyone else?
Nope, I said before we can discus the subject, you should go study on the matter and first ajust the narative to resemble the actual Bible and not the twisted version you are trying to peddle here. If you can't do that, then you are not a honest participant and I will be wasting my time. ..like I already am doing by explaining something to you that should have been obvious from the previous post. Stop trying to steer this to where it suits you. If you are truthful, me request isn't unreasonable, it does not suit your agenda though.
"
Anyone else?"
Rich coming from a brainwashed and close minded Atheist/nothing believer.
LMAO!
So I should go read your silly little gospels that were written when people still believed the earth was flat . . . rather than you demonstrating - by means of intellect and/or reason - that my arguments are invalid?
Okay then . . . as I said earlier, anyone else?
Rooinek:
"Jun 06, 2019, 19:58
"My post was actually in response to the other reactions on Denny’s call for posts to be deleted"
I see.
So let me get this straight Ceradunce, your post at 14h33 which not only followed directly after my post at 13h51 but started off by quoting my entire post was . . . ummmm . . . not actually aimed at me?
Is that what you'd have us believe?"
Oh, FFS, how long are you planning on carrying on like an attention seeking petulant child? I did not actually quote your entire post. I only quoted one single sentence of it. Go check. The line from your post, that I quoted, was the one where you referred to moving a topic to a more appropriate section. An assertion which I actually agreed with, if you only bothered to pay attention.
"Jun 06, 2019, 14:33
“Posted by: Rooinek (8359 posts)
Jun 06, 2019, 13:51
"Moving a topic to a more appropriate section of the forum is not censure.” [The one sentence, from your post that I quoted.]
I have no issue at all with the idea of moving a topic to a more appropriate section. [See? This is the part where I, by implication, said that I do not have any issues with what you have said, ie I agree that moving a topic is not censure] None at all. Denny has asked for CC’s post to be deleted. Check his opening post. That is censure. "
From there on in, I was only having a go at Denny's efforts of having to have CC censored, ie having his post deleted.
Your allegation of me quoting your entire post, actually seems to be the one ticking the lying box.
Now, just to recap, i suggest that you revisit my post of and answer the questions in bold:
"Jun 06, 2019, 15:53
I think we have a misunderstanding here. In a nutshell:
1. I am against banning posters. [Do you agree with me on this one?]
2. I am against censure, ie deleting, editing, etc of posts. [Do you agree, with me on this one?]
3. I have no issue over moving posts/topics to more appropriate sections.[Do you agree that I have, at this point, basically reiterated that we are in agreement about moving topics to appropriate sections]
4. I realise that the mushroom man is under discussion, [Do you agree that I have, at this point, already confirmed that I was referring to Denny (Dennys Mushrooms), rendering your little foot-stamping charade, demanding that I confirm who I was referring to, unnecessarily immature. That was why I ignored your question.] hence my reference to his opening post where he (a) imposed himself onto the spat between CC and yourself and (b) called for CC’s post to be deleted, which is censure, and (c) called for the moving of the thread.
5. He has once again, referring to 4(c) above, displayed his sheer hypocrisy by calling for something exactly for which he, at some stage, threw his toys out of the cot for."
You can thank me some other time for kicking your back side into shape.
I know you were responding to me.
Everyone else knows you were responding to me.
I know that you shot your stupid mouth off before you took the trouble to read what I said.
The more intelligent posters among us know that you shot you stupid mouth off before you took the trouble to read what I said.
Stay down. Trying to pretend you won this silly little exchange is not helping your cause.
Accept that as the friendly and well-intentioned advice it is.
It's a blatant lie that I've called for Clean Cut to be banned, what I requested is for him to be temporarily suspended. There is a difference......... spot the difference Koosie? I doubt it, although I understand your need to twist my words, hate does strange things. Everyone knows that Clean Cut is a racist, he has made it abundantly clear that he is and he remains unashamed and unapologetic....as a matter of fact quite smug and boastful. Most just ignore his racist rants, the odd one or two have raised objections. His latest smug racist rants finally got to me, still he continues unabated I don't have an issue with someone being a racist, I have an issue with someone sprouting racist beliefs in an arena I happen to share with him. The admin of this site has made it clear that this is a zero racism tolerant site and posters who transgressed would be suspended..........and there has been suspensions in the past. So if I'm a fascist, then so is he. I don't have an issue with a post being deleted based on good reason and there have been examples of posts being deleted at the discretion of the admin.
Moving along to the tough talking Clean Cut......you really need to calm down, you're not the tough dude you make yourself out to be, how could you be when you were going around slashing peoples faces with knife in hand Huh? Then you went another step further by bragging about it on the SS website in a rugby forum. Get a grip bitterbal.
But wait there's more, in one statement you laughably say that I was trying to befriend Koosie but in another you say I was interfering in your spat. You sound confused, which one is it? Truth be told it's neither, they are both lies. Here's what I said........
The two of you are birds of a feather, cut from the same cloth and are both low lives and that before long regardless of how you've slagged his family you'll be friends again.
And then there's that bit about my "hypocrisy."
Let me state this for the umpteenth and last time......your soon to be mate Koosie was warned to leave my family off the board, he persisted on several forums, over a lengthy period of time, this isn't the only one, he ignored all my calls. Eventually I retaliated and I make no apology. He got what he deserved and noticeably he has put a stop to dragging family onto the board. It's taken some work but he seems to have learned a lesson.
Unlike in your case, I was provoked, you slagging off his family was unprovoked......spot the difference? He's also repeatedly demanded of me to quote my sources....I won't personally drag up what he said about my late parents, they RIP.......unlike him I respect the words and meaning and I have no intentions of bandying my parents around on an insignificant rugby forum.
Now erm Beeno....."I've smeared your name" Hmmmmm?? No I haven't, you handsomely do that yourself.....you've proven yourself quite proficient in that area.
Stop your blatant lies though, you are after all a self-confessed Christian......don't further embarrass yourself.
I didn't accuse you of causing JustWin's departure.....that's a blatant lie. That post might still be on the board, just don't expect me to go hunting it down. I said something to the effect that you were the reason why Sharkie, Wardad and lastly MO(NH) left.......they said as much on their way out, not my words....theirs. As for JustWin, I said that I wasn't sure why he'd left and didn't know for sure if it was because of you.
What I find hard to believe is you bonding with Koosie, I had no idea that you hated me that much to stand side by side side by side with a low life who's called your beloved Jesus Christ a Poofter. If not your faith, where is your pride?
Sies!
OK Rooi, I'll compromise , you don't have to read the Gospel to tell me if you believe any of it is true and that's not neccessary either. Do you believe anything in the Gospels to be historically true?
There's a simple yes or no to Ceradayne's twaddle.........if your privacy is invaded and published in this forum would you want it deleted?
Redneck ... Ceradyne’s explanation on censorship, deleting posts and banning members is as clear as day. There’s no need for any additional explanation, so do us all a favour and stop pretending stupidity. Your post was simply used to as a reference to his thoughts on the matter. Wake up.
Speaking of ticking boxes ... what boxes have you ticked recently?
Throwing tantrums like a 3 year old child ... emotional pleas for acceptance when CleanCut smacked your bum ... cowardice in trying to rally support when CleanCut smacked your bum ... sulking for a week because CleanCut exposed you for the low life piece of shit that you are ... and then turning on the fools who reached out a hand of support.
The funny thing is that the same fools (Mozart & Denny) will come running in support of you again, when you post another emotionally, drunk induced plea for acceptance on here.
I see you have brought Jesus into the mix again.
You pathetic, short, fat low life.
It really is time you get a life other than this board.
Have a great Friday everyone...….
It's the weeeeeekeeend baby !!!!!
Aaaah ... I see Denny has returned. What kept you?
Oh ... hang on ... I see Mozart made an entrance and that gave you a little courage did it?
Haaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaa!!!
Same old Denny. A coward to the end.
Now ... about the apology you owe us. When can we expect it?
You know ... about being a hypocrite ... defending your "principle" of not using family as a weapon in a fight ... and then ... umm .. using the very same tactic that you are apparently so apposed to.
Let me remind you.
"Perhaps if your father wasn't a drunk and had spent some more time with your mother then just maybe she wouldn't have had the need to service the next door neighbor. Kills a coupla birds with one stone cause then you would have known your real father."
Remember?
Please explain yourself ... I really am a little confused by all these double standards of yours.
It's called doxing and the internet has decided its bad.
On all social media the punishment for doxing is a perma-ban.
Naturally such posts should be deleted.
Agreed Plum doxing is the mortal sin of internet forums. ...are you asking for a perma ban of Rooinek? Surely not...it wasn't actual doxing...and Maaik and Dave Doxxed themselves.
"Being obnoxious is not a ban-able offence"
Neither is being a prick and a twat, and Piss Mint is both, and many more, so lucky him
What a awesome Friday this is
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Jun 06, 2019, 19:45Let’s a Christian and an atheist die together. There are two outcomes:
- There is no hell or heaven. Then it is the end for both of them. Nobody lose. The atheist wouldn’t even be able to tell the Christian “I told you so”. or....
- There an after life and a hell and a heaven. One of them is going to feel really stupid.
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- No. How would anyone feel stupid if the Atheist is correct? If life does not exist after this, then no one would be feeling anything?
The Bible is all about sanctions of punishment. It is a means to sell an after-life insurance policy. The Church itself has been exposed on many counts of crime and fraud, including stealing much of the donations. There are estimates in America that more than 50% of all donations end up in personal bank accounts via money laundering. The hypocrisy of the very organisation claiming to represent God....
The likes of Beeno and Cleancutt are a great advert for Christianity. No matter how many scriptures they quote, they sin and are immoral, more than anyone. So if they ask for forgiveness - then continue as per usual each week - somehow they get into heaven. Sure, pull the other one..
So if they ask for forgiveness - then continue as per usual each week - somehow they get into heaven. Sure, pull the other one..
Yep, that is CC to the tee
Apparently being racist is also not un-Christian according to CC
He believes that if it is not specifically in the bible, then it is not against the bible or un-Christian
Selective Christian beliefs is the way CC lives...….it makes it easier for him to live the life he does
LMAO.... what a fucking farce
What a bloody awesome Friday...… !!!!
I've tried but I just can't imagine anything quite that pathetic.
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