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Food Insecurity in the USA

Started by clevermike70 REPLIES5,214 VIEWS· 11 Apr 2024, 07:14
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Apr 2024, 02:34
#41
17 Apr 2024, 02:34#41

So ‘nowhere in their study do they give figures of how many people in total are obese’

Sigh….right here in the first sentence I quote they tell you that number, the prevalence of obesity is 27.1%:

‘ Among the 12 states, the prevalence of obesity was 27.1% overall, 25.2% among food secure adults, and 35.1% among food insecure adults’

You’re quite incapable of reading and understanding anything the slightest bit complex. So stop trying.




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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Apr 2024, 07:05
#42
17 Apr 2024, 07:05#42

So the study found 27,1% of the population was at the time of study was obsese, with  and the case of obese people that was food insecure being 35,2%  and the food insecure people  and 25% bing in th food secure group.    In fact the situation is statistically weird since the statistically age distribution si normally calculated in age groups from under 5, under 15, 15 to 24, 25 to 34, 35 - 45 etc.   The study takes the agees invovled as from 30 to 65,   

What they did was to decrease the study group to circa 150 million of the total US populationn and ignore the rest,   So if of the circa 150 million people covered  25% is fd insecure the amximum figure arrived at is circa  50 million being food insecure.    That accordig to Mozart calculatiuon means there is no food  insecurity in the USA  at all,    Yet Food banks provide food in respect of 15 milion children out of a total cica 81 million chidlren - that means 18,5% of children are food insecure.    In essense that ties in with the total of cica 16% of theUSA population at present are food insecure.    

 Food security would be much higher than in the working population than it si amongst non-working and retired people.   Maybe Mozart's pick of what he quote from the report is notrmal Mozart BS.    So I wouild like to read the report myself and see what is really the case.   Reference to where the report can be found on site would be appreciaqted.     

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Apr 2024, 15:46
#43
17 Apr 2024, 15:46#43

No wrong again 35% of obese people are food insecure and 25% of non obese people are food insecure. You just can’t keep these few numbers straight.

I’m done spoon feeding you Wanker, if you don’t get that having 35% of obese people being food insecure doesn’t prove there is a support system your brain is just too befuddled to grasp simple data.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Apr 2024, 15:52
#44
17 Apr 2024, 15:52#44

Mo/zarrt

Give me a reference where I can find that report.     Pleasd provide.   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Apr 2024, 15:59
#45
17 Apr 2024, 15:59#45

I gave it to you before, right on this string….catch a wake up!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Apr 2024, 22:26
#46
17 Apr 2024, 22:26#46

Just the internet reference please or are you afraid you may be caught out lying  on the site ag ain.   .   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Apr 2024, 00:18
#47
18 Apr 2024, 00:18#47

No I’m not afraid but I don’t see why I need to give a reference I gave you  before, you hopeless clod.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Apr 2024, 03:35
#48
18 Apr 2024, 03:35#48

National Intitute of Health  - I ent into the site and found  a report on obesity and healthy diet issues.   I then type in the words - study on besity impact on food insecuity and got a resonse it canno be found.

The Report Mozart quote dealth with obecity in th e UA and how it could be reduced - but the linage Mozart puts on that issue I cannot find at all.  So please give me the reference to th e report you quote from - Your   "Hmmmm I might have to use a little calculus of variations to figure this out…….thinking…tinking…tinkng….tnkng….got it:"      

So please givce me a detail where  your quotes came from.   The above quotation came from Mozarts's distortions of what was dealt with again - so prove that  you were not lying and distorting facts by giving me the reference you quoted above.- because from what I queried about a report he Institute published nothing  about linkages between obwsity and food insecuity,    

I will give you one example of the situation where  you were caught BS again - appararently the study found that obesity as a problem affecting 50% of the US population.    So  of the 50%  you found a reference that 35% of the Obese people are  food insecure.

 So when was thts study you quote from done?

Proof that you are not lying and distoring info again  by providing  the reference elating  to th e report you are quoting from.    You have been caught out lying  on issues on site a countless number of times and their is ample reasons to distrust what you write on site. 

TYhe USA  Mdical fraternity has been lying about the origins of he Covid Pandemic and lied about the gain-of-function research they were fuinding  iro of the Wuhan Bio-lab.   Theya lso lied about th e Ukraine bio-labs and the research done funded by the US Govenment.- so people should eb careful when they come up with cover-up BS .   What comes out from that stiuation is that cover-up of BS is a prime function fo the medical fraternity in the USA .   So give me the exact reference of the report you quoted from pisshead.         .             

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Apr 2024, 12:45
#49
18 Apr 2024, 12:45#49

Drivel alert.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Apr 2024, 14:32
#50
18 Apr 2024, 14:32#50

 Give me the threat Mozart.  Yo u were obviously misleaadxing  members by your lying  statements if you don't.     

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Apr 2024, 17:42
#51
18 Apr 2024, 17:42#51

I could, but if you are too abysmally stupid to find it given the quotes I provided, you are too abysmally stupid to read it.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Apr 2024, 18:57
#52
18 Apr 2024, 18:57#52

Coming  from a prejudiced lying  brainwashed idiot thatn si ruich.   Provide t he linkk or I will start a THREAD CALLING  YOU A PREJUDICED BRAINWASH ED LYING IDIOT.  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Apr 2024, 21:54
#53
18 Apr 2024, 21:54#53

Be my guest.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Apr 2024, 02:25
#54
19 Apr 2024, 02:25#54

Whenw as tghat report doen liar supreme - you are not rpepared to give me the thread since - your BS  will be exposed for what it really is.    Fat people also  need food and th at si where the sisue comes in.   With food prices up between 26 amnd 30% ove the last 3 years and income did increase corresondingly any logical person would realize you are talking  BS.    

I accept you do not want me to look at it and th e reason is to dide your lies afrom being exposed.

In any event I would not waste further time tod eal wit h obvious lies you concocted to cover up the fact aht 72% of the voters feel the rpesent economy is to th eir detriment and 26% approve of the  BIDEN ECONOMIC POLICY.

Your total contribution to th si site is lies, distortion and BS spreading  and that came from all issues on site - so anything  comig from you on all issues - inclusive of sport  - is absed on that abnormal and dishonest conuct of yours.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Apr 2024, 03:26
#55
19 Apr 2024, 03:26#55

No fat people are not food deprived..  they have access to more food than is healthy for them. Nobody is in danger of starving in the US….you have just been suckered by the left wing media.

And as the National Library of Medicine reports, a higher percentage of obese people claim they are food deprived, putting the food deprived statistic in question. There is a difference between being food deprived and thinking you are food deprived.

Case closed.



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Apr 2024, 03:41
#56
19 Apr 2024, 03:41#56

Dim Fart

When was that report donne and why si it not on the website of the Institute?   By the wqay brain fart - I never said people were starving in the USA .   There would be starvation if it is not for the food banks feeding 49 million people - of whom 15 million are children..

You lied about inflation claiming it si down to 2,5% - while the inflation during the period from 2020 to 2024 is circia 26 to 30%,   There were not a correspoding income increase of people - so where did they get money from to cover all their needs.   Why are in opinion polls people claiming theya re worse off than they were under Trump and why does 72% of th voters wiew the Biden economy as being detrimental and only 26% support that economic plan.   

Logic is one real deficiency when it comes to you - but then you are very selective when it cmes to facts - when you comes up with "facts" invented by you BS  supreme is always in evidence.             

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Apr 2024, 13:24
#57
19 Apr 2024, 13:24#57

You still don’t get it…..I have given you enough information to find the report. But you are too stupid…your problem not mine. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Apr 2024, 17:07
#58
19 Apr 2024, 17:07#58

I do nto distort thing  like you do - Stupid to get caught out every time about any issue..    First foa situation covers people ove 30.   If that means based on  the age disribution in the USA it covers about 160 million people if heir findings are based on thatc ategory only.   They found that 27,1% of that figure is obsese  -that brings the figure down to  42 520 000 obese people in that category.   Of those 35, 2% is obese  - thus  the figure of obese food insecure people are jsut about  14 million people.

The study does not cover the issue of food security a[=ther than to refer to 25,2% of the people are food secured.   In basic school terms which you ignire there are 40% of the people not dealt with - they give a figure for insecure people  35,2% and 26% is food secure - what aboiut the other 40%,  they are silent about?      

The food banks get audited and they claim they feed   34 million adults and 15 million children - and the 14 000  000 that you mentioned makes up less than 40%  of the adults being fed by food abnks.  What about the rest?    There are also 15 milion children fed by the Food Banks. 

Lastly when was that study done and there si no indicationb what impact inflation has had on affordability of food ahd on food insecurity.   You claimed it is 2,5%  so it  does not have an impact on food insecurity.    That is obviously BS  supreme.

One last question  when was that study undertaken?             .     .             

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Apr 2024, 06:48
#59
20 Apr 2024, 06:48#59

Mozart was caught in his own BS a gain.  A s far as I could determine th e srtudy relates to obesity in the USA targetting the critical issue of obese people in the US A and aim at finding solutions an reduce obesity of people.    Alth ugh reference are amde to food insecurity it obviously was not 

He came twith 50% of the obese people are food insedcur.   Then when he proved nothing I asked him for a reference to the report.  He would not give t.   When I asked wh en he report was compiled he did not rpovide the info.    He initially mentioned 50% obesity and changed that to 27,2%  of the total targetted population is obese.  So Mozart went on to make a stupid statement.- only "fattis are eaing to much and for that reason they are food inecure.     . 

Thje comments Mozart quoted was incoherent and probably claried - but that was no pasted in by him.   In desperation after I gave him some real fidgures he went quiet and would not even provide the dates as t when teh study was uindertaken. 

H e did his normal and became totally obnocious in his personal attackes on me.   So w hen dealing with Mozart you have to bear in mind . that he is a prejudiced individual who when cornered does not hessitate to become  a compulsive liar,             

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Apr 2024, 02:49
#60
21 Apr 2024, 02:49#60

Food security by country….case closed.

Overall scoreAffordabilityAvailabilityQuality and SafetySustainability and Adaptation1st Finland83.791.970.588.482.62nd Ireland81.792.670.586.175.13rd Norway80.587.260.486.887.44th France80.291.369.087.770.35th Netherlands80.192.770.784.769.26th Japan79.589.881.277.466.1=7th Sweden79.191.968.385.068.3=7th Canada79.188.375.789.560.19th United Kingdom78.891.571.677.671.110th Portugal78.790.077.079.864.511th  Switzerland78.289.276.873.569.512th Austria78.191.367.181.269.713th United States78.087.165.188.869.4=14th Denmark77.892.163.289.163.8=14th New Zealand77.891.667.773.175.116th Czech Republic77.791.369.476.370.317th Belgium77.592.664.688.461.018th Costa Rica77.483.073.079.273.319th Germany77.087.967.079.970.820th Spain75.789.063.181.266.421st Poland75.587.463.881.566.722nd Australia75.493.361.184.058.823rd United Arab Emirates75.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Apr 2024, 06:05
#61
21 Apr 2024, 06:05#61

Mozarrt

Ducking  and diving will not explain what is happening.  I askedf you when the report  you quote from  came from and you gave neither the actual referenced - nor when the investigation was done.   Yu would noit give me the reference to the report - no would you give me when the srudy was done.

It is not I who flaimed tha t the fatties amke up 50% of the food nseure people when the study itself is limited to about ahlf of the US population since it covedrs the ages of eople between 30 and 65%.\

In fact the redport  you quoted from covers not the issue of food security in the USA  - it covers people between  he ages 30  and 65.   It does not cover children and adults under the age of 30/   The report in fact aimed at the issu eof obesity in the US A and how pople should change their conduct to esure reduction of obesity n the USA.

The factis you gave the last schedule before which was  indicating the USA food security situation at 78 - t problem is that the reports refer to 2021 - th World Bank report of 2022 provided more up to date info.   

So give us the date of that rdeport you quioed from - coward.    Yoiu wer cxaught lying at leas three tmes about the issue in your comments above - so I do not expect another answer than BS from you.     

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Apr 2024, 12:39
#62
21 Apr 2024, 12:39#62

You can stamp your smelly feet as much as you like Wanker….the facts are these ….a higher percentage of food insecure people are overweight, demonstrating they have ample access to food.. ..and the USA, despite it’s huge diverse population ranks ahead of much smaller homogenous populations like Denmark, New Zealand, Germany and Australia in terms of food security.

Conclusive proof and if you want to dispute that, find your own facts. I’m not going to provide you any references for you to distort, misinterpret or mangle.

Has that finally penetrated your thick head.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Apr 2024, 14:45
#63
21 Apr 2024, 14:45#63

Mozart

You are a liar and a total piec e of sh it as well.   I used to respect your opinions - but over the last four years yoy have fgone to the extreme left /of th e A USA olitical scene.   I studied the library reports in 2023 and 2024  on F od insecury in the USA and none fo those dealt with obseity - blaming thta like you do that obesity cause all food insecuyrity in the USA.     I will gov you some quotes on some fo the reports:-

 Conclusions: Socio-economic resources partially explain disparities in FI risk when disabled. Disparities remained for people in full-time work and among people without savings in older age.  

Conclusions: Individuals with diabetes and food insecurity expressed satisfaction with the medically-tailored meal program, and reported that participation reduced stress and the burden of diabetes management. Suggestions to help ensure the success of medically-tailored meal programs included a strong emphasis on culturally acceptability and accommodating taste preferences for provided foods, and combining medically-tailored meals with diabetes education or lifestyle intervention.

Conclusions: High rates of food insecurity among American Indian and Alaska Native communities likely increased during the COVID-19 pandemic. However, despite the high prevalence of food insecurity, community-led efforts to reduce COVID-19 infection and increase vaccination uptake across Indian Health Service and Tribal healthcare facilities may have mitigated the negative impacts of the pandemic for families experiencing food insecurity. These successful approaches serve as an important reference for future public health efforts that require innovative strategies to improve overall health in American Indian and Alaska Native communities.

Your crazy idea that food insecurity are only amongst the "fatties" are not dealt with in any recent report.    The number of recen reports indicate there is a major problem of food insecurity in the USA - but why should that be esulting in a flood of recent reorts.  

First of all there is your claim that present inflation rates are 2,5% as published by the liars in th e Biden Administration.    The increase in food prices over the last tfour years were 28% to 30% - if not more.   The increased costs in housing  this year alone increasaed by 7,5%.     Where the hell can lower income people find the means to  cover the increased doemstic costs - with average wage increases amount to circia 4%, .   Fact si 52% of th voters in opinion polls are claiming theya re wrse off than they were in 2024 comared to 2019 - while 26% claimed theya re bette off - with pigs like you being in the latter category.     According to the latest opinion poll 72% of the voters disapprove of the Biden policies and 26% support it. 

So the Food Banks are the only winners in the situation in th eir claims anxd you should hide your head in shame for defending the unaccetable BS you came up with .   LIAR _ LIAR - YOUR BS H AS BEEN AGAIN PROVEN ANYWAY IS DIOSTORTIONS FOT EHT RUTH.    .         


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Apr 2024, 16:25
#64
21 Apr 2024, 16:25#64

Poor people are generally classified as food insecure…about a seventh of the population. But they get food. It’s capitalism with social safety nets. Thus these food insecure people are not starving….in fact they are more obese than the food secure population.

Here is the referenced study abstract:

Published in final edited form as:J Acad Nutr Diet. 2012 Sep; 112(9): 1403–1409. doi: 10.1016/j.jand.2012.06.011PMCID: PMC4584410NIHMSID: NIHMS724360PMID: 22939441Food Insecurity Is Associated with Obesity among US Adults in 12 StatesLiping Pan, MD, MPH, epidemiologist, Bettylou Sherry, PhD, RD, senior epidemiologist, Rashid Njai, PhD, MPH, epidemiologist, and  Heidi M. Blanck, PhD, MS, senior epidemiologistAuthor information Copyright and License information PMC DisclaimerThe publisher's final edited version of this article is available at J Acad Nutr DietGo to:

Abstract

A redesigned food insecurity question that measured food stress was included in the 2009 Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System in the Social Context optional module. The objective of our study was to examine the association between food stress and obesity using this question as a surrogate for food insecurity. Our analytic sample included 66,553 adults from 12 states. Food insecurity was determined by response (always/usually/sometimes) to the question,“Howoften in the past 12 months would you say you were worried or stressed about having enough money to buy nutritious meals?” T tests were used to compare prevalence differences between groups, and logistic regression was used to examine the association between food insecurity and obesity. Among the 12 states, the prevalence of obesity was 27.1% overall, 25.2% among food secure adults, and 35.1% among food insecure adults. Food insecure adults had 32% increased odds of being obese compared to food secure adults. Compared with food secure adults, food insecure adults had significantly higher prevalence of obesity in the following population subgroups: adults ages ?30 years, women, non- Hispanic whites, non-Hispanic blacks, adults with some college education or a college degree, a household income of <$25,000 or $50,000 to $74,999, and adults with none or two children in their households. One in three food insecure adults were obese. Food insecurity was associated with obesity in the overall population and most population subgroups. These findings are consistent with previous research and highlight the importance of increasing access to affordable healthy foods for all adults.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Apr 2024, 00:08
#65
22 Apr 2024, 00:08#65

Tha study was done in 2012 simpleton - that was 12 years ago and circumstances changed for the worst subsequently.   Until 2020 inflation was not a major issue - since 2021 the situation as to inflation changed for the worst and while food security was virtually eliminated under Trump when the workers had more money in their pockets the problem was limited

Three years under Biden with food costs rising by about between 28 and 30% since 2021 - and there was a corresponding rise in accommodation expenditure   the situation changed drastically.   

The report you qiuoted from is vastly inaccurate as well.   It covers people in the age group 30 to 65.    That takes up about 50% of the total US population.   and to claim that the rest of the population is the same- is what any statistician will tell you is BS.

In the past food was provided on a  limited basis by food banks - but when the food supply situation deteriorated badly in 2021 the food bank system had to be expanded to cater for the growing crisis in the USA.

I rather beleive what the situation is at present and not rely on a report done 12 years ago.   Idiocy supreme is the only thing I can say in this regard on your totally prejudiced BS calculations.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Apr 2024, 00:25
#66
22 Apr 2024, 00:25#66

I thought that was going to be your response. So I saved this for you sucker…..read and you’ll see the nothing has changed in terms of food security and obesity. Put out the bait and sure enough you gobbled it down just as I knew you would.


2022; 9: 1012734. Published online 2022 Sep 26. doi: 10.3389/fnut.2022.1012734PMCID: PMC9549066PMID: 36225872Food insecurity as a risk factor for obesity: A reviewDiana Carvajal-Aldaz, † Gabriela Cucalon, * , † and  Carlos Ordonez †Author information Article notes Copyright and License information PMC DisclaimerGo to:

Abstract

Obesity is considered a 21st-century epidemic and it is a metabolic risk factor for Non-Communicable Diseases such as cardiovascular diseases, type 2 diabetes, metabolic syndrome, hypertension, some types of cancer, among others. Thus, its prevention and treatment are important public health concerns. Obesity within the context of food insecurity adds an additional layer of complexity to the current obesity epidemic. Efficient policies and interventions ought to take into consideration the effects of food insecurity on the risks of developing obesity among food insecure households. This review aims to analyze the recent available evidence around the obesity – food insecurity paradox. Most of the literature has consistently shown that there is a significant association between food insecurity and obesity, specifically in women of high-income countries. However, mechanisms explaining the paradox are still lacking. Even though researchers have tried to analyze the issue using different individual and societal variables, these studies have failed to explain the mediatory mechanisms of the food insecurity–obesity relationship since the proposed mechanisms usually lack strength or are purely theoretical. The research focus should shift from cross-sectional models to other research designs that allow the exploration of pathways and mechanisms underlying the food insecurity and obesity relationship, such as longitudinal studies, which will hopefully lead to consecutive research testing the effectiveness of different approaches and scale up such interventions into diverse contexts among those affected by obesity and the different degrees of food insecurity.

Schpolttttttttttttttt!




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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Apr 2024, 06:28
#67
22 Apr 2024, 06:28#67

BS again -  Food insecurioty is not effected by inflation that ran at about 30% over the last three years - have you gone totally crazy.     You try and finmd an excuse to vcover up the failure in economic policies of the Biden administration.   You took a failure 12 years ago and now come up with further BS.    Obesity is the only cause of food insecurity.insecurity by the whole community.  

Nobody deny that obesity is a problem in the USA  - but the claim that it si the only factor causing food insecurity is BS  supreme.     By the way si ch ildren also facing  the same problm in obsesiy as the over 30 year old is about as big a flaw as your gneral argument is.

The main problem remains - the low income workers and the poor are the main source of food isnecurity in the present USA.    If that si nto th case why are 15 million children fed by Food Banks?    Why did the problem get worse since 2021 and then you try and claim that  obesity is worse than it was in 2012.    

Anyway your beloved Democratic Party and much admired Biden Administration is going to go the same way as it is going in Europe where Governments are losing elections have been struggling to survice and in Europe the econmomic policies and involvement in the Ukraine war is losing elections.    Another amazing factor is that Biden cannot fight the election based on whaat he did over the past year - so he uses personal atatcks and allegations against Trump of doin what eh and jhis Justice Department is doing to undrmine democracy as the only reason why peopele should vote for failure. 

An additional 9 million people that flooded into the USA is not impacting on food supply and crazy policies of the Biden administration obviously effect the food supply prices as well.   A typical example is where in California Nwsaom increase the wages of workers in fast food businesses to $20 dollar an hour and a number of such businesses stopped operation and others  increase prices by 8%..   Obviously the donors to his election campaigns are not included in the increase. of the wages.    

By the way is yiour inflation rate of 2,5% still hold water?    Why is it that 72% of the voters in opinion polls claim the Biden economic policies are unacceptable and 52% of the voters said they are worse of now than they were 4 years ago - with only 22% claiming they are better off than they qwere under Biden.   Stinkers and liars like you like you are part of the 22%, 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Apr 2024, 13:51
#68
22 Apr 2024, 13:51#68

Let me help. Food insecurity basically fluctuates between 15% and 20%. In 2022 it was about in the middle of the range. 

It rose dramatically in 2008 with the financial crisis and started trending down in Obama’s second term. That trend continued throughout the Trump term and even Biden’s first year.

Then it spiked because of inflation created by responses to COVID and a poor Federal Reserve response.

The statistic basically follows the economy and part of a recessionary response is to feed the affected. The USA does that. Nobody is hungry in the US unless they are totally isolated.

There, now you are schooled




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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Apr 2024, 16:11
#69
22 Apr 2024, 16:11#69

 So now suddenly some reality from you.      I said food insecurity over the last three years spiked due to inflation - not entirely due to obesity as you claimed before.   I do beleivce the figue of 16,6% bsed on the 2020 stats of the Food Banks were correct in 2022 - but the situation has qworsened since then and is likely way above 20% at present. 

No wonder 72% of the people are in polls ndicatying  that Bidenomocs is a disaster for them  and only 26% of the voters in fact give it a positive approval.   

The fact is that the Democrats have no polcieis they can defend as acceptable - so their whole campaign consists of lies and hatespreading against Trump and the usage by the WH of the judiciary to lay fake charges against Trump - while tens of millions of people are worse off than they were whe Trump was President.    The voting  blocks that used to be solid Demcorat - the younger voters, the Hispanics and even a large part of the Black community is at present nort supporting the Democrats like they did in the past.  

  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Apr 2024, 17:43
#70
22 Apr 2024, 17:43#70

Actually Wanker that chart totally destroys your argument that food insecurity has massively spiked. It’s just returned to mid range. You blamed inflation, immigration, the food banks, Biden’s economic policy, Newsome etc etc. Everything you don’t like.

It’s a standard low class debating technique….find a problem and attach all your dislikes to the problem. But it’s nonsense.

Food security was trending below historical norms and inflation has created a small spike back to mid range. None of this is the fault of immigrants, Newsome (much as I dislike him) or the mating patterns of swallows.

People in the US have great food security and quality of food. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Apr 2024, 16:40
#71
23 Apr 2024, 16:40#71

Mozart

I doubt not t here are enough food supply in the U SA  - what I doubt is the affordability of the food especially in an infkkationary envorinment.   S o may the F iid Banks be blessed for the ork they are doing.      

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