Kremlin threatened Wagner soldiers' families as Britain told to brace for fall of Putin

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British diplomats are planning for the fall of Vladimir Putin as it was revealed the Kremlin threatened the families of Wagner before the rebel army called off its coup on Moscow.

"This could be Chapter One of something new", a government source told The Times.

They added: "We have to watch, wait and see what comes next."

Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin suddenly reversed the mercenary army's march on Moscow after a deal with the Kremlin orchestrated by Belarusian president Aleksandr Lukashenko.

He will now move to the neighbouring country.

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Prigozhin suddenly told his mercenary group to stand down as soldiers neared Moscow. Picture: PA

It's thought between 5,000 and 8,000 Wagner troops were moving towards the capital when they received the order to stand down.

The private army's vehicles were spotted on motorways close to Moscow shortly before the coup came to a swift end.

Prigozhin had promised "Soon there will be a new president" after Putin appeared on state television to brand the Wagner rebels traitors.

It's now been suggested that the loved ones of Wagner soldiers had been threatened by Putin's allies in the run-up to the reversal, The Telegraph reported.

The Kremlin has promised Wagner soldiers who did not take part in the hours-long effort that they can join the Russian defence forces.

Experts have quashed suggestions that the coup was staged in order to strengthen Putin's authority.

Institute for the Study of War (ISW) analysts said: "The Kremlin now faces a deeply unstable equilibrium. The Lukashenko-negotiated deal is a short-term fix, not a long-term solution, and Prigozhin's rebellion exposed severe weaknesses in the Kremlin and Russian MoD.

"Suggestions that Prigozhin's rebellion, the Kremlin's response, and Lukashenko's mediation were all staged by the Kremlin are absurd.

"The rebellion exposed the weakness of the Russian security forces and demonstrated Putin's inability to use his forces in a timely manner to repel an internal threat and further eroded his monopoly on force.

Prigozhin claimed a Wagner camp near Bakhmut in Ukraine had been attacked by the Russian military after months of criticising the leadership.

He then marched his mercenaries over the border, apparently facing no resistance from young conscripts before rolling into Rostov in the south of Russia.

Wagner forces held the city along with Voronezh, just 300 miles from Moscow.

He said it was a "march for justice" and that he had 25,000 men willing to die.

Russia has a combined army of 3 million soldiers - so the Wagner component of not more than 50 000 soldiers are going to cause the fall of Putin.   What the Wagner Head wants is o wipe out Ukraine opposition virtually totally and the systematic slower  destruction of the Ukraine army is apparently why the head is unhappy.   

Do you know the difference between propaganda and news?       

Russia has a combined army of 3 million soldiers - so the Wagner component of not more than 50 000 soldiers - according to earlier news reports of circa 40  000 died in battles against Ukraine - so if we are to believe the media about 10 000 soldiers are going to cause the fall of Putin through a coup .   What the Wagner Head wants is o wipe out Ukraine opposition virtually totally an d the systematic slower  destruction of the Ukraine army is apparently why the head is unhappy.   

Do you know the difference between propaganda and news?       

Narrative after narrative after narrative.

Mercenary life is mercenary life. It has its perks and its drawbacks.

This mercenary group is not the first one to engage in mutiny, it is not the last one to.

Mutny and not rebellion as liberals claim.

that he had 25,000 men willing to die.

"The rebellion exposed the weakness of the Russian security forces and demonstrated Putin's inability to use his forces in a timely manner to repel an internal threat and further eroded his monopoly on force.

Only these two extracts.

25 000 people ready to die and forced to face death elsewhere than in a march to take Moscow.

Painting the resolution that conserve intact a military force as a defeat over accepting it as a successful move is again convolultion that has turned liberals' trademark.

Russia's war effort would have gone strengthened if Putin had managed to obliterate the mercenary troops at the cost of russian regular troops.

Another liberal moment.

Ou blobbie must be as thick as a plank. So he really believes 5,000 to 8, 000 troops traveling along a highway to Moscow could be expected to threaten Putin.

Hahahahahaha haha. What a complete MONG. No ability to reason at all. 

Given that Wagner consists of 50,000 troops it just shows how little support Prigozhin had. IF INDEED THIS WAS AN ATTEMPTED COUP. 

I have been on the Daily Mail and Daily Express and I can tell the naked propaganda is terrible. 

The Daily Mail Comments section is interesting. Here most debunk these absurd propaganda pieces. 

They have been predicting the collapse of Russia for many months, getting shriller as time passes. 

I had to laugh at some weird leftist nutjob putting up videos on You Tube about how Putins last days had come etc. 

A few hours later the pittifuly small Wagner contingent were on the way back to their bases as Putin cracked the whip. What an utter humiliation for these brain washed zombies. 

Ou blobbie is so pathetically brainwashed he doesn't ask why Putin didnt get his airforce to wipe them out as they traveled along a highway virtually defenceless from air power and missiles. 

As with the whole Covid and vaxx saga. the man made climate change hoax etc a number of folk here have been exposed as total dummies, brain dead zombies. 

It's worth noting that the Wagner fighters have been offered contracts with the MOD. 

HasBeen and Clever as usual totally miss the point. It wasn’t a potential battle of 5000 vs 3 million (Clever’s numbers)….it was whether the 3 million actually showed. Apparently whatever Prigozhin thought was going to happen didn’t and there was enough uncertainty about the resistance to lead him to accept the offer.

Possibly the threats against the Wagner families played a role. The thought occurred to me that Prigozhian’s family were at significant risk. 

"The thought occurred to me that Prigozhian’s family were at significant risk. "

As it should have to him...before his actions...a military man should have anticipated such...bizarre that he apparently didn't...this is getting more absurd by the day...it seems that the Russian military and bureaucracy are even more corrupt and incompetent than the South African governmental circus...no wonder they are struggling in Ukraine. 

When there is no accountability and oversight incompetence flourishes. All these dictatorships and one party states have imploded…..East Germany, the Soviet Union, Venezuela, China before Deng embraced the West, South Africa I’m sad to say and the new Russia.

You need representative government, a real opposition, freedom of speech, capitalism  and all the the other freedoms.

SA has a rich history in mercenary work. Yet SA people seem to ignore the hazards of mercenary life.

This guy probably ignored nothing at all. The options on the table were scarce though.

Usually, mercenaries rely on another entity for protection. Since though this guy's organization was tagged as terrorist by liberals (and that liberals claim they do not negotiate with terrorists), he had few options when biting the hand that has fed him.

This guy exchanged his life against an exile.

No external support, no internal support, marked as a terrorist, made a lot of enemies in the Russian army.

This guy would have marched on Moscow, ousted Putin and then what. 25 000 people are not enough to sustain a coup.

Mercenary life: at some point, the hirer may determine the mercenaries have become cumbersome and want to get rid of them.

Nothing new.

You need representative government, a real opposition, freedom of speech, capitalism  and all the the other freedoms.

Liberal propaganda.

Liberalism is somewhat 300 years old. Never been the temple for freedom as  liberals claim it to be, liberal societies started as slaver societies.

Quite bizarre to keep pushing the narrative when remembering that tyranies of the past had banned slavery and were opposed to it.

Tyrannies lasted longer than any liberal countries.

Globalization has changed the deal, liberal countries have taken a large advance in globalization as they have made it and now are in a position to use that advantage against other regimes.

Rumor has it that Yevgeny Prigozhin has been photographed with a known CIA asset...

Rumor has it that Yevgeny Prigozhin has been photographed with a known CIA asset...

Valdimir Putin?

It's actually astonishing what the propagandists are desperately trying to make if all this. 

A motel crew of 5 to 8 thousand traveling to Moscow to overthrow Putin they bellowed ftom the roof tops. Putins days are numbered they hollered. Shows Putin has lost control the bellowed. All is lost for Russia. Russia is weak and is done. Russia is divided etc etc etc

You can go on You Tube and see all these crazy fools sounding off. Go quickly as I am sure they will be taking down their nonsense quickly now. 

Putin simply told these few loons they would be charged with TREASON and anihilated and must return to their bases. They meekly turned back. All their demands unfullfilled

As McGregor and others are saying Russia is in a commanding position and has the military to crush the unfortunate decimated Ukrainians. 

The Globalist propaganda machine in milking this storm in a tea cup have simply put another nail in their coffin. 

Russia is very strong. They have decimated the Ukrainians and it's about game over. 

For Ukraine to stop the coming Russian victory the US will need to become directly involved. But even that won't stop Russia. Russia can potentially field 30 million troops. 

Their military industrial complex has been churning out tanks, ammunition, missiles, artillery, planes etc. 

The American people have no stomach for this totally unnecessary proxy war.

Very importantly both Trump and RFK are strong advocates of ending this war. Americans like their European counterparts are turning against this war. Hence the protests etc. 

Personally I don't think the Russians will now stop until Odessa and all Russian populated areas are under their control. You can't blame them after the Genocide that happened. 

Beeno, Russia is definitely not strong...they're not as wea k and inept as some would sugest, but Ukraine should have been done and dusted by now...this whole war reads like a bad script...and people are dying every day...an absolute disgrace for Western Civilization...I don't care which side is right or wrong...this whole war is unnecessary...SIES and shame for both sides.

Churchill had a quote about Russia that's quite accurate.

Russia is never as strong as it appears to be.

Russia is never as weak as it appears to be.

There is plenty of Western sources out that acknowledge the things the Russian's have done well on the battlefield.

I don't care which side is right or wrong...this whole war is unnecessary...SIES and shame for both sides.

I'll give you some slack in that you're just talking about Russia and the West. Ukraine has nothing to be ashamed about.  

Ukraine is grouped in with the West...this is the 21st Century and we have war in the Western Civilization...a totally preventable war.

The invaders are tot ally to blame ................. invade, genocide ecocide

for what ............. to demilitarise & denazify. Fk em.

this is the 21st Century and we have war in the Western Civilization...

Dont Africans have many wars on their continent to lament about the reality of war.

Oh, wait, war is only troublesome when it pits white people about soon to become white people.

No more war between white people.

"Russia is very strong. They have decimated the Ukrainians and it's about game over

For Ukraine to stop the coming Russian victory the US will need to become directly involved.

But even that won't stop Russia. Russia can potentially field 30 million troops"

It's almost like you are saying this with a smile on your face.....

This war should never have happened.... too m any unnecessary lives lost on both sides.

DA if you had read my posts I have repeatedly said this is an absurd war that never should have happened.  I have lamented the lives loston both sides and the terrible destruction that has happened. . 

Your apology will be accepted. 

The war happened because it was planned to happen and forced to happen by US led Nato. They are solely to blame. The evidence for this is overwhelming. 

Further US led NATO  blocked the signed peace agreement reached between Zelensky and Russia. 

Further, the war is only able to continue via two means. First the Globalist propaganda that Ukraine will win. This helps justify the funneling of billions in arms and money to keep the Zelensky Regime afloat. 

However the ludicrous narrarive that Ukraine has any chance of winning is now crumbling. People are also realizing who instigated the war.

So naturally I am glad to be able to say Russia will win this war AND END this war. It's the only way it's going to stop. Once the West sees it's being soundly defeated they have no choice but to seek negotiations. 

Then we hopefully will see what is left of Ukraine become a NEUTRAL NON ALIGNED country SAS it should always have been but wasn't BECAUSE OF EU expansion efforts eastwards. 

Ukraine will be nazified which will be great and cause sharktwit to bawl his dopey eyes out

Russian populated regions will become part of Russia which is also great and will ensure the safety and we'll being of these people. No more genocides and having their rights trapped upon. 

So hopefully all this happens this year. The sooner Rusdia wins the better. 

As planned by the illigitimate Globalist Biden Regime the West will be left weaker. This whole war with Ukraine has precipitated the multi polar world and the end of dollar supremacy. A terrible outcome for the West. 

I doubt even President Trump can reverse this catastrophe.  I think Trump though will reverse the American decline and set the country on the road to recovery. But that won't stop nations joining BRICS, SCO etc. They will become the dominant grouping unless something we don't yet know about occurs. 

This is Beeno's holy war. Good vs Evil. (And of course, his side is good). 
What type of warped reality does he have that Putin is the good guy?

Corruption exists everywhere in the world, but most countries are not comparable with Russian corruption - They are the Mafia running a country. 

"Then we hopefully will see what is left of Ukraine become a NEUTRAL NON ALIGNED country SAS it should always have been"

"Russian populated regions will become part of Russia which is also great and will ensure the safety and we'll being of these people"

What a crock of shit.....

So you are saying that Putin does or did not ever want to absorb all of Ukraine into Russia, and would have left them as Neutral?

Yeah Beeno....they had a lot of say in remaining "Neutral" didn't they.

No wonder Finland opted to join NATO, as well as the fact that Bosnia, Herzegovina, Georgia, Sweden and Ukraine have all applied to become members of NATO.....

Most countries have now come to realize that the Kremlin, and Putin in particular, does not and never has, recognized or respected non-aligned neutral sovereign countries...

Hardly anyone now.... trusts your good buddy Putin, and for fucking good reason.

I don't in particular like the fact that NATO is encroaching eastwards towards Russia, because of the provocation that it brings with it.... yet at the same time, Putin does himself no favours by openly threatening countries that even remotely considers joining NATO..... it is an open door policy to any country.

What type of warped reality does he have that Putin is the good guy?

Probably the same world as the one liberals claim to be the good guys.

Corruption exists everywhere in the world, but most countries are not comparable with Russian corruption - They are the Mafia running a country.

Singapore is run by cartels and Macau by gangs. For the latter, disputes among criminals are rarely or never settled within Macau, they may be settled two hundreds kilometres from it.

Most countries have now come to realize that the Kremlin, and Putin in particular, does not and never has, recognized or respected non-aligned neutral sovereign countries...

Keyword is neutrality.

The fact that the coup in Ukraine toppled an elected government that was favourable to Russia does not help either.

Congratulations TheTraditionalist.

You made an entire post without mentioning the word liberal. 

The post was otherwise still absolute garbage but hey I thought the achievement was worth noting. 

BB

So the whole issue fizzled out - stupid to join you in thinking the story is true and will cause the much-hoped for by the USA replacement of Putin by a puppet that would work out for the benefit of the corrupt regime in the USA.   

Putin is bad - Biden is worm shit.    

BB

So the whole issue fizzled out - stupid to join you in thinking the story is true and will cause the much-hoped for by the USA replacement of Putin by a puppet that would work out for the benefit of the corrupt regime in the USA.   

Putin is bad - Biden is worm shit.    

BB

So the whole issue fizzled out - stupid to join you in thinking the story is true and will cause the much-hoped for by the USA replacement of Putin by a puppet that would work out for the benefit of the corrupt regime in the USA.   

Putin is bad - Biden is worm shit.    

BB

So the whole issue fizzled out - stupid to join you in thinking the story is true and will cause the much-hoped for by the USA replacement of Putin by a puppet that would work out for the benefit of the corrupt regime in the USA.   

Putin is bad - Biden is worm shit.    

So....

The question remains....

Is it still a duplicate.... if it is posted 4 times.....

According to retired CIA officer, Larry Johnson... Prigozhin was double agent (it was staged by Russian intelligence) otherwise he would not be alive.

MORE U.S. Weapons for Ukraine $500M _ w Larry Johnson fmr CIA

The post was otherwise still absolute garbage but hey I thought the achievement was worth noting.

Liberals and their contempt, thinking it is to them to distribute marks as if addressing first graders.

Putin gladly endorsed a narrative pointing at him as the cause for all those countries joining NATO.

A much better narrative than the fact that all those countries would have joined NATO with no input from Putin.

Neutrality is a nice position to hold when nobody presses to pick a side.

Not joining a side when urged to do so is a test of character.

You made an entire post without mentioning the word liberal.

As it must since it relates to Putin. The number of typos was impressive, more than the absence of the world liberal.