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Man-made Art . . .

Started by Rooinek131 REPLIES2,434 VIEWS· 01 Jan 2024, 14:49
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Jan 2024, 05:57
#81
03 Jan 2024, 05:57#81

Oh well.... as Moz says, expanding one's view s or exploring new ideas or experiences can only be a good thing

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Jan 2024, 06:15
#82
03 Jan 2024, 06:15#82

Chat is just telling the simpletons here that God created everything. 

Nature's beauty often aligns with artistic qualities due to its sheer complexity, symmetry, and awe-inspiring features. The natural world showcases intricate patterns, vibrant colors, and harmonious compositions ie oaks its not random

Rooitwit Science says there was once nothing then the big bang. So are you anti Science then, Hahahahahha a toady like you being anti Science is a turn up for the books. What weird theory do you have then. Lets have a good laugh!

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Jan 2024, 06:35
#83
03 Jan 2024, 06:35#83

"Rooitwit Science says there was once nothing then the big bang."

Nope. You're not very bright, are you Baboon-ou? Where did I ever say there was once nothing? Huh?

You're either stupid or you're a liar. It's one of the two. I suspect both.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Jan 2024, 06:46
#84
03 Jan 2024, 06:46#84

Have you guys heard of this "Claude AI"..

I literally just stumbled across it this morning, and it's quite impressive...

I posed this very same question to Claude AI, only just to see how different it could possibly be from ChatGPT, and to see if it had a different thought process or perspective on the same question I asked ChatGPT and to see if they were similar in design and output.....

Question to Claude AI:

"Can the natural beauty of the worl d and the universe be seen as art"

Claude's response:

Yes, the natural beauty of the world and universe can be viewed as a form of art in several ways:


  • Aesthetics - Many natural landscapes, geological formations, plants, animals, and astronomical bodies have very aesthetic, visually-pleasing qualities - symmetries, colors, textures, compositions, etc. These can evoke a sense of awe and appreciation in the same way human-made artworks can.
  • Creative process - Nature itself can be viewed as an artist that uses principles of growth, evolution, physics, chemistry and chance to "paint" living artworks and landscapes over long periods of time. The natural world follows creative patterns and processes.
  • Emotive qualities - Beautiful aspects of nature often evoke strong emotions in humans - awe, wonder, joy, curiosity, peacefulness, humility. In the same way art aims to connect us more deeply with aspects of the human condition, nature's beauty offers emotional and spiritual connections.
  • Subjectivity - The appreciation of natural beauty, like art, is highly subjective to the individual. One person may find a rainy misty landscape to be exquisitely beautiful, while another may see it as dull and monotonous. Beauty is "in the eye of the beholder" in nature as much as art.

So while nature was not created intentionally for aesthetic purposes, many argue its serendipitous beauty and capacity to inspire emotional reactions in us makes it a continually unfolding work of art when viewed through an artistic lens. It displays aesthetics, creative processes, and the capacity to inspire, awe and delight us in artistic ways.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Jan 2024, 06:53
#85
03 Jan 2024, 06:53#85

These various responses here tie in quite closely to what Sader and I were trying to say, although these definitions from both AI are a lot more specific and detailed ....

Each to their own, and as I said earlier, I definitely don't think anyone is wrong, I just believe it's all a personal perspective in my opinion.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Jan 2024, 07:45
#86
03 Jan 2024, 07:45#86

Ok. I've fixed the heading.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Jan 2024, 08:13
#87
03 Jan 2024, 08:13#87

I must confess.... I would never have thought to be interested in someone like Hermann Corrodi, because up until reading this thread, I had never heard of him.... I have just honestly never had the inkling or interest to look at this type of art..

Sheeesh, but that is some impressive paintings ....

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Jan 2024, 08:15
#88
03 Jan 2024, 08:15#88
Next time someone talks about the natural beauty of New Zealand I'm gonna say I don't like art.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Jan 2024, 08:54
#89
03 Jan 2024, 08:54#89

"Next time someone talks about the natural beauty of New Zealand I'm gonna say I don't like art."

LMAO!

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Jan 2024, 14:57
#90
03 Jan 2024, 14:57#90
It’s not surprising if much of art depicts nature that nature is art like…just as that art is ‘nature like’’. But art doesn’t only refer to the result….it refer’s to the process of creation. And the two couldn’t  be more different, one the result of billions of years of physics and chemistry, the other the choices of one human, sometimes decided in minutes.
Chat’s  attempts to equate the creative process is rather strained….it’s better at solving equations.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Jan 2024, 17:36
#91
03 Jan 2024, 17:36#91
The above did get me thinking. I have never met a single person that doesn't, at least to some degree, find elements of the natural world beautiful. Sunsets, mountain ranges, animals...there is always something that even the most dour twat will admit is beautiful. Our world, this universe, indifferent and majestic. Makes one realise how lucky we are. I mean, outside of nature, there ain't a single thing I can think of that everybody agrees on. Aren't we ever so fortunate that the thing we all agree on is the unmatched beauty of the place where we came to be?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Jan 2024, 00:51
#92
04 Jan 2024, 00:51#92

We are lucky in so many ways…..big swells and offshore winds….who put that in the specs. Hell I remember so many natural wonders, a school of jelly fish occupying square miles…..the McNaught Comet.

I think this is where our connection to English culture had an influence on our awareness ….Keats, Shelley, Wordsworth..

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Jan 2024, 06:54
#93
04 Jan 2024, 06:54#93

Almond Blossom by Vincent van Gogh . . .


Just stare at it and meditate and everything becomes apparent. .


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Jan 2024, 18:24
#94
04 Jan 2024, 18:24#94
There are so many great things in the world. Those in front of us, those we have to go out of our way to see, and those that we might only see by chance. ...and yet we choose, so often, to be angry or in some other negative state. I just thank heavens I started playing guitar many moons ago. It's doesn't matter the day, the mood, the situation. I sit down with it and everything else just disappears. I've been thinking lately how many younger people I meet that suffer from anxiety, or some perceived mental or social disorder. And almost without fail hardly any of them have a hobby that doesn't involve a screen. No fitness, no instrument, no art, no adventure. I'm convinced that all the screen time is ruining people. Bit of a rant here but I have a 32 year-old male family member. Chap hasn't had a girl in well over a decade. He's depressed, struggles to sleep at night, struggling to get by. Yet he sleeps until 12pm, hasn't lifted a weight in his entire life and the only art he appreciates are Marvel movies. The kicker is that any sort of suggestion one might make, like getting a hobby, getting fit, altering his lifestyle and perhaps waking up a little earlier to take on the day, are met with irritation and dismissiveness. I wasn't alive 50 years ago but I bet there were less people like this back then. People totally missing out on the world.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
05 Jan 2024, 03:27
#95
05 Jan 2024, 03:27#95

https://twitter.com/InUKRofficial/status/1742511372699578372

In Ukraine@InUKRofficialDad came home from war and played the violin for his son

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
05 Jan 2024, 03:28
#96
05 Jan 2024, 03:28#96
sorry, I tried the edit but that aint working .................. my head's hanging low tho.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
05 Jan 2024, 05:20
#97
05 Jan 2024, 05:20#97

Kinda broke the thread there, Blobbie.

I've been thinking lately how many younger people I meet that suffer from anxiety, or some perceived mental or social disorder.

And almost without fail hardly any of them have a hobby that doesn't involve a screen. No fitness, no instrument, no art, no adventure.

I have to work on a computer. The amount of anxiety that accumulates in a day by just sitting, sitting and more sitting, dealing with the constant distractions of social media, Youtube, etc. is easily noticeable. When I get up, get out, take a long walk, bit of exercise - immediate improvement. I've even lost much of my appetite for gaming because I realized how much of my life had been consumed by it. I'm far more focused on getting out more, seeing and experiencing. Go lie down in a river or a tide pool by the sea with the water flowing over you and the sunlight soothing you. You feel completely different in just 10 or 20 minutes.

I can imagine how the people, and it's not just young ones, practically living in their phones and on social media have to feel. It's poison - the physical inactivity combined with the constant fatigue that comes from over stimulation of the brain and the mental stress of constant comparison.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Jan 2024, 06:27
#98
05 Jan 2024, 06:27#98
Yes, blob has turned this thread into a Picasso.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Jan 2024, 06:29
#99
05 Jan 2024, 06:29#99

Easy to fix of course but only blob can fix it. Just edit the post where you copied and pasted incorrectly (again!), select all and delete. About 3 mouse clicks and two keystrokes.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Jan 2024, 06:41
#100
05 Jan 2024, 06:41#100
True dat, Pakie. Touch some grass once in a while ffs! Or go to the beach, like you say, and sit in some art while art shines down on you. Got an old man on my street Insee him running every single day. Snail's pace, and his dog kinda walks next to him...but he's there...klapping it, every day. He believes in suffering a little every day, and I couldn't agree more. Remind you body that it still lives in a physical world and your appreciation for everything, including yourself, deepens.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
05 Jan 2024, 15:48
#101
05 Jan 2024, 15:48#101

He believes in suffering a little every day, and I couldn't agree more.

Facts. If you never suffer a little discomfort, you stop appreciating anything good you have going on because it just becomes part of the daily dullness .

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Jan 2024, 21:20
#102
05 Jan 2024, 21:20#102

I’ll post one of my paintings if somebody reminds me how to get a photo to post.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Jan 2024, 00:45
#103
06 Jan 2024, 00:45#103

Not working, sorry if you are interested you’ll just have to go to the Uffizi.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
06 Jan 2024, 18:28
#104
06 Jan 2024, 18:28#104
lol Moz...you posted a picture recently. I made the guide previously... 1) You go to an image hosting site...sign up if the site requires it. I use this one... https://imgbb.com/ 2) Click upload image...select the image you wish to upload, click upload image. 3) the site will make a URL(looks like a web address) which you copy in its entirety. Select "Full HTML linked" option and click copy. 4) come back to Ruckers and while on the thread that you want to post the image to you click the icon that looks like a picture above where you'd normally make your post/reply. 5) a window will open where and you now past the URL you copied into the space provided. 6) before you click post...put in 600 as your picture width. 6) Click "upload" or whatever the tab is that will make you enter the image into your Ruckers post. 7) Now look on each side of image and just delete any extra characters that may be left over from the URL. 8) then click update comment to make your post on Ruckers.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Jan 2024, 21:10
#105
06 Jan 2024, 21:10#105

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Jan 2024, 21:14
#106
06 Jan 2024, 21:14#106


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Jan 2024, 21:20
#107
06 Jan 2024, 21:20#107


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Jan 2024, 21:25
#108
06 Jan 2024, 21:25#108

Moz made art…just a bit of whimsy. Thanks Plum, I couldn’t get it to work until you gave me that full html instruction. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
07 Jan 2024, 00:49
#109
07 Jan 2024, 00:49#109

Create a Monalisa as if painted by Monet


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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
07 Jan 2024, 00:50
#110
07 Jan 2024, 00:50#110







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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
07 Jan 2024, 00:53
#111
07 Jan 2024, 00:53#111

Modernist







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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
07 Jan 2024, 01:09
#112
07 Jan 2024, 01:09#112




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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jan 2024, 02:41
#113
07 Jan 2024, 02:41#113

Mona against the waterlilies. The only trouble with that effort is Monet was very abstract by the time he was painting the water garden. And Mona is clearly defined. Monet’s Mona at that time would have similarly blurred. 

Chat has a lot to learn about art.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
07 Jan 2024, 08:18
#114
07 Jan 2024, 08:18#114
Did you make that, Moz? The dissected sphere is cool! The equations are a first. Never seen it before but like the idea.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
07 Jan 2024, 08:23
#115
07 Jan 2024, 08:23#115
VisKop...the modernist Mona Lisa's all get my vote too. I'm a big fan of that type of art. It's too busy to have too many pieces like that but the odd one in a collection offers welcome reprieve. Now , let's do dare... Let's get chat to do a portrait of ourselves in a style of our choosing.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
07 Jan 2024, 10:02
#116
07 Jan 2024, 10:02#116

Fine...I'll go first...

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Jan 2024, 10:54
#117
07 Jan 2024, 10:54#117

Well, well, well. Lots of name dropping to impress each other. Mozzie probably wins that one.I suspect he would never like any painting by a guy with a name like Jack Smith. 

Hideous modernist art!!! The rubbish ou Mozzzie has posted! How in the world did the poor guy convince himself this garbage was art! However if you can convince yourself Rassie is a poor coach and du Toit is no good its obviously possible for a certain personality type.

Van Gogh was a very ordinary painter as the blossom painting shows. Of course virtually any old painter can copy Vans primitive art. People loved the life story of Van and it was after his death that his life story came out, his madness, cutting off an ear, the suffering etc and his paintings began to sell. The original Van Gogh was no better than the copy but investors would pay millions for the original. It has zero to do with artistic merit.

Congrats to all who have made this such an amusing thread. 


I do just hope poor Rooitwit isn't going to burst into tears because of some some AI painting. Imagine being reduced to tears by an AI programme.



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Jan 2024, 10:54
#118
07 Jan 2024, 10:54#118

I will give P akster some credit for posting a real work of art.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
07 Jan 2024, 11:55
#119
07 Jan 2024, 11:55#119
Beeno, at the very least you should appreciate Dali's Crucifixion. I'll explain it you... When Jesus was crucified, he went to the "dimension of heaven" or the "next dimension". Dali painted the cross in the image as a representation of what cube would look like in 4D...IE the next dimension after the 3D world we live in. Very clever.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
07 Jan 2024, 12:24
#120
07 Jan 2024, 12:24#120

I will give Pakster some credit for posting a real work of art.

Thank you Beeno, as you know I live for your approval.

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