Markets on fire…

….since Trump reestablished the USA’s leadership with the brilliant Iranian strike. I trust the pensions one poster was bleating about are doing well for her.,

Some will never be satisfied...

You guys really should be comedians.

How’s your portfolio Anger…no doubt invested in green companies….bit of tough sledding there. Better listen to Trump next time. Since Trump said it’s a great time to buy in April the market is up 14%. Brilliant foresight really, but losers lose and winners win.

I wonder if Trump will re-invest his $16 million payout that he just got from Paramount over the whole re-edited Kamala interview that most people called him a liar and idiot for.

The markets are indeed pumping and things are just getting going.

As soon as the Fed reduce rates that's gonna be the match that makes the whole thing go nuts.

The median dot plot expectation from the Fed members is two 1/4 point cuts by the end of the year.

TLDR: get ready for a massive risk on environment.

All hail Trump, my Fuhrer...

Before the mid-term elections, there will be enough time to see who has benefited or not from the BBB.

Trump is always going to make mistakes, it's a given, especially over a 4 year term, listening to all the experts surrounding you, as well as using your own experience, knowledge or intuition on certain issues... and that is something that one has to expect and accept.... because it comes with the job.

What is crazy though, is just how much people dislike the guy, that they cannot ever acknoweldge what he has done right or anything else that has actually been very benefical to the USA and it's citizens.

I would have no hesitancy at all in having Trump as the president of South Africa and if you don't agree, especially comparing him to what we have had since Nelson Mandela......Mbeki, Motlanthe, Zuma, Ramaphosa..... then your dislike of Trump is just superseding your logical decision making process.

What is crazy though, is just how much people dislike the guy, that they cannot ever acknoweldge what he has done right or anything else that has actually been very benefical to the USA and it's citizens.

What is crazy though, is just how much people like the guy, that they cannot ever acknoweldge what he has done wrong or anything else that has actually been very detrimental to the USA and it's citizens.

If after the big, beautiful bill, the markets are not responding positively, one wonders what could get them react positively...

Snot en trane vir die volgende paar jaar...foitog.

I can't fucking believe it....

Someone has kidnapped the real Trad and we now have an imposter in our midst...... it just has to be

Two posts, and not a single use of the word "Liberal"

The thing is three months ago Trump was ‘stupid’ and responsible for destroying the markets. Now we have hit new highs….and silence.

Trump has an odd personality and no contraints. But he also has surprising empathy, for example he couldn’t have been kinder to the emotional Ukranian female reporter in the press conference recently.

And are the politicians who smile and appear so reasonable really the people they appear to be….most of them that I’ve met are very self serving.

The billionaires were delighted as their stocks soared.

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The thing is three months ago Trump was ‘stupid’ and responsible for destroying the markets. Now we have hit new highs….and silence.

You're either incredibly brave or incredibly foolish making such a statement mere days before the potential reactivation of the tariffs that triggered this whole shitshow 3 months ago.

Trump's tariffs were tanking the stock market, when he paused the tariffs the stock market improved. A simply guide that even Trump supporters should be able to understand...Trump does something, the markets react negatively, Trump stops doing that thing, markets reactive positively. Though the market is responding less negatively when Trump does something recently thanks to them factoring in TACO economics.

Trump was forced to pause his plans because of the extremely negative reaction of the bond markets. The consequences have been higher yields on treasury's, a weaker dollar and a lowered credit rating. Trump supporters have an amazing ability to overlook important details and cherry pick. It's just insane levels of logic, it's the equivalent of saying Liz Struss's mini budget was fine, look see the UK bond market has since recovered, what was all the fuss about. No acknowledgement that if both weren't forced to backtrack the consequences of them staying the course would of been utterly catastrophic for their respective countries and in Trump's case the wider world as well.

Trump has an odd personality and no contraints. But he also has surprising empathy, for example he couldn’t have been kinder to the emotional Ukranian female reporter in the press conference recently.

The reporter got him on a good day, he was coming of the back of several politic wins and was in a good mood. For a person responsible for delaying military aid to Ukraine as well as cutting off intelligence and weapons systems temporarily and now appearing to be withholding already approved aid from Ukraine, in addition to being behind the administration that is cutting aid to millions of the most vulnerable people on the planet and slapping tariffs on poorer nations, as well as putting in place legislation that will remove access to Medicare for millions of American's, empathy is not a word I'd use in association with Trump. There is only person Trump cares about and that's himself.

And are the politicians who smile and appear so reasonable really the people they appear to be….most of them that I’ve met are very self serving.

And Trump who's reportedly added $1 billion a month to his net worth each month since be became President for a second times is the most self serving.

You're either incredibly brave or incredibly foolish making such a statement mere days before the potential reactivation of the tariffs that triggered this whole shitshow 3 months ago.

Actually the tariffs didn’t tank the markets, the prospect of tariffs tanked the market. This time the uncertainty is much narrower. Besides which if you knew anything about markets, you’d realize the market discounts known future events like restarting the tariff tug of war. So you’re the foolish one….not for the first time.

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For a person responsible for delaying military aid to Ukraine as well as cutting off intelligence and weapons systems temporarily and now appearing to be withholding already approved aid ….empathy is not a word I'd use in association with Trump

Trump’s actions on the Ukraine are motivated by a strong desire to end the war, as opposed to the European desire for the US to enable the Ukraine to fight to the last man.. I favor Trump’s instincts.

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And Trump who's reportedly added $1 billion a month to his net worth each month since be became President for a second times is the most self serving

Trump is a brand, when the market goes up, or he is seen as more solidly in control his value goes up. As the serial impeachments in his first term proved, give the Dems a legitimate legal loophole to tie him up, they will. Obviously nothing Trump has done opened any doors

Your mindless dislike of the Donald is typical of a small man….which you are. Plenty of people one may not enjoy personally are very effective at what they do. Those who have learned a bit about life understand that.

Actually the tariffs didn’t tank the markets, the prospect of tariffs tanked the market. This time the uncertainty is much narrower. Besides which if you knew anything about markets, you’d realize the market discounts known future events like restarting the tariff tug of war. So you’re the foolish one….not for the first time.

Splitting hairs, he created that prospect.

There seems to be some expectation that come the end of the pause he won't re-impose tariffs has high as liberation day and which will be somewhat more targeted along with some countries getting extensions. The effected on the market might be more muted but that's not a certainty.

Trump’s actions on the Ukraine are motivated by a strong desire to end the war, as opposed to the European desire for the US to enable the Ukraine to fight to the last man.. I favor Trump’s instincts.

Oh lord, you've gone full on tankie now.

Trump is a brand, when the market goes up, or he is seen as more solidly in control his value goes up. As the serial impeachments in his first term proved, give the Dems a legal loophole to tie him up, they will.

Trump is indeed a brand, a self serving brand.

Your mindless dislike of the man is typical of a small man….which you are.

Mindless, afraid not... I just live in reality.

So whose judgement should we follow the market as included in the current stock market prices or your’s? Perhaps you could make a case for yourself, how much investing experience do you have? Tell us about your portfolio….a savings bank deposit, or something more?

Trump has a record of trying to get out of wars…..Iraq, the intent in to get out in Afghanistan if re-elected. He helped India and Pakistan avoid escalation. And the moment he had compromised Iran’s nuclear program he opened the door for a ceasefire which he vigorousl y enforced.

Full on tankie

Nope that’s you old chap, who simply can’t take on any facts that contradict your bias.

I live in reality

A narrow limited reality, with no personal experience of anything of consequence.

Trump is indeed a brand a self serving brand

All brands are self serving old chap. Trump has his name on hotels and started a social media platform. Those entities go up in value in part because of his perceived status. It’s called business….if there’s anything illegal bring the case. If the public finds it off in any sense we’ll see that in the elections. The rest is just TDS.

So whose judgement should we follow the market as included in the current stock market prices or your’s? Perhaps you could make a case for yourself, how much investing experience do you have? Tell us about your portfolio….a savings bank deposit, or something more?

LOL another appeal to authority, you literally think you know everything don't you?

Nope that’s you old chap, who simply can’t take on any facts that contradict your bias.

If you don't want to be mistaken for a tankie, stop using their lines.

A narrow limited reality, with no personal experience of anything of consequence.

Yet for all your bragging about your life achievements here you are spending a lot of time desperately trying to one up this narrow limited person who has done nothing of consequence on a tiny obscure internet forum with a handful of posters, many of whom think you a bit of a plank, at least the ones with intelligence.

All brands are self serving old chap. Trump has his name on hotels and started a social media platform. Those entities go up in value in part because of his perceived status. It’s called business….if there’s anything illegal bring the case. If the public finds it off in any sense we’ll see that in the elections. The rest is just TDS.

That's an around about way of agreeing with me that Trump is self serving. Most politicians are self serving, and you sort of need to be in politics, but we know why your throwing that question about are they who they appear to be out there, to imply if they act with decency or a bit of class it's really an act and their really like Trump behind the mask, so really Trump's behaviour is excusable.

But ah yes TDS, its amazing how far you have changed from pre-election, those Trump reservations are now long gone and your firmly back in Team Trump camp.

LOL another appeal to authority, you literally think you know everything don't you?

Actually I was appealing to the information imbedded in the market price, but I do have some financial credentials.

Yet for all your bragging about your life achievements here you are spending a lot of time desperately trying to one up this narrow limited person who has done nothing of consequence on a tiny obscure internet forum with a handful of posters, many of whom think you a bit of a plank, at least the ones with intelligence.

I’m on here for the same reason everybody else is, a love of rugby. For Saffas away in the world it’s also a connect back to their history. Emigrants are always somewhat lost between two worlds. So given I’ve been bragging about them, what are my life achievements, you must know them by now given my ‘bragging’. Tell us what I’ve been saying.

But ah yes TDS, its amazing how far you have changed from pre-election, those Trump reservations are now long gone and your firmly back in Team Trump camp.

No I still have reservations about a number of things and my style preference is completely different. Some of the cabinet members remain dubious, while some like Bessent have been excellent so far.

But, the automatic presumption of stupidity, bad faith and self serving regardless of results is intellectually dishonest.

But ah yes TDS, its amazing how far you have changed from pre-election, those Trump reservations are now long gone and your firmly back in Team Trump camp.

Sometimes it’s not the people who change, it’s the mask that falls off. – Haruki Murakami

‘Wine is a turncoat…first a friend and then an enemy’….Henry Fielding.

And here’s a quote that should really terrify you Hysteria:

“No matter how far you travel, you can never get away from yourself.”

— Haruki Murakami

Whte South Africans are screwed up then.

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Part of this very relative unease is maybe that people may have not forgotten that Trump was elected despite proper market conditions. It is a pattern repeating. A few months ago, a post was praised how well the US economy was going based on the market, dismissing that people voted for Trump in spite of that market health. Trump invented tarriff stuff was not only repelled because of market tanking but also because it affected the consumption spree of US citizens who are addicted to a high level of consumption. Hence the breach in Trump's resolve. Then now the one, big, beautiful bill that has sent a positive message to the markets but may be not that beneficial to people who voted for Trump despite the markets doing well.

Now and this when it is getting interesting, will these people go against Trump? No, they probably won''t, they will look for alternate release outlets to vent their discontent. It is an important part in a liberal society. In the past, in the US, white people could take a lot from their leadership as long as they were guaranteed negroes stayed slaves. As long as negroes remained slaves, it was fine. This is how the abolition of slavery took so much from the US. There is going to be big losers with the one, big, beautiful bill and most of them will not got against Trump.

‘Screwed then’ Trad…it suits your meaning better.

It will follow them through generations no matter where they go.

You ascribe too much importance to the petty customs and rules that dictate our lives. Basically we are just the most evolved biological accident on a rock in space. Space doesn’t care or react.

I wonder if Trump will re-invest his $16 million payout that he just got from Paramount over the whole re-edited Kamala interview that most people called him a liar and idiot for.

The fact is Reagan had one built in Los Angeles and the Busshes dod the same.. St Obama said he would built on himself as well - but 8 years have gone by and not a sign he would ever built one. .

The media owners thus far provide $70 million towrds building of the Trump Memorial LIbrary because of libellous conduct and a few must still pay up.

"Basically we are just the most evolved biological accident on a rock in space. Space doesn’t care or react."

It was no accident... ;-)

You ascribe too much importance to the petty customs and rules that dictate our lives. Basically we are just the most evolved biological accident on a rock in space. Space doesn’t care or react.

Liberals can no longer behave. It is a great remark to be written in a thread marvelling at the hip cups of markets. And no, there is not enough emphasis put on the rules as liberals have been claiming that they owe their successes to rules and stuff.

Nevertheless, this stuff is very good and will be re used extensively in the future.