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NATO finally offers to help

Started by Mozart34 REPLIES664 VIEWS· 18 Apr 2026, 00:53
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TheTraditionalist
Pro4,003 posts
19 Apr 2026, 16:41#21

Very funny, no accountability...ever...your team was always gonna drop the ball....oh, sorry...steal the ball...and burn the stadium and sh!t on the pitch...always.



But what team is that? Simple question to answer.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
19 Apr 2026, 16:52#22

As if a country is going to agree to having no military


Well Shark obviously you are unaware, that’s exactly what Germany had to agree after WW2.


Germany did not voluntarily agree, but was forced to completely disband its military after its unconditional surrender in 1945. The Allies at the Potsdam Conference (1945) demanded full demilitarization, banning all weapons production and dissolving the Wehrmacht. This prohibition lasted until 1955, when West Germany formed the Bundeswehr to join NATO.



America wants to avoid another painful occupation. So declare Iran a non military state…..enforced by shipping blockades and destruction from the air.


Try to keep up.


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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
19 Apr 2026, 16:58#23

Good luck trying to enforce that. Iran would never agree to that.


The MAGA Nazi's are the ones invading countries- you are worse than Iran.

Most of the world hates America, and wants to see MAGA boots on the ground so it turns into another Vietnam.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
19 Apr 2026, 17:09#24

"Well Shark obviously you aren’t aware unaware"


Yes . . . obviously.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
19 Apr 2026, 18:01#25

Acknowledged and corrected

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
19 Apr 2026, 18:12#26

"Most of the world hates America"


Just a small correction . . . "most of the world hates Bozo's America".


I certainly didn't mind the America of the past . . . you know, the America that was a constructive and strong member of NATO, the America that didn't threaten to invade other NATO countries, didn't kidnap other world leaders, didn't get coerced into attacking other countries, respected nuclear non-proliferation treaties, was a positive influence on the world economy, didn't lie all the time, didn't insult other countries and their leaders . . . I didn't hate that America.

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Plum
Captain21,007 posts
19 Apr 2026, 18:13#27

"Most of the world hates America, and wants to see MAGA boots on the ground so it turns into another Vietnam."


Damn, that EU inferiority complex really rubbed off on you.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
19 Apr 2026, 18:15#28

"Most of the world hates America


Until they need them

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
19 Apr 2026, 18:36#29

I did not realise most of the world was based in the EU...


Global views of America under President Trump's second term in 2026 are largely negative, with widespread concerns over U.S. reliability, leadership, and policies like tariffs. isolationism and increased wars.


Key Polling Insights

Pew Research in mid-2025 across 24 countries found majorities in 19 nations lack confidence in Trump's world leadership, with U.S. favorability dropping sharply in places like Mexico, Sweden, Poland, and Canada. Confidence is especially low on climate change (median 21%), the Russia-Ukraine war (negative in most NATO allies), and U.S.-China relations.


Positive outliers include Israel (62% confident on Mideast conflicts), Nigeria, Hungary, India, and Kenya.


Regional Trends

Europe shows deep skepticism—a January 2026 survey indicated 51% of respondents view Trump as an "enemy" to Europe, amid fears of weakened alliances. Allies like the UK, France, Germany, and Spain rate him better than his first term but worse than Biden. In Asia and Latin America, "America First" policies are seen as boosting China relatively, per an ECFR poll of 21 countries.


Broader Perceptions

A 2026 global survey of 70+ countries revealed 80% distrust U.S. trade reliability, 85% avoid travel there, and many see America nearing civil unrest. While some analyses note Trump's return enforces U.S. power realities, most international commentary highlights reputational damage and alliance strains.





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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
19 Apr 2026, 19:49#30

Who needs America? They dropped Ukraine like a hot potato once the orange returned to office- despite the Budapest Memorandum. America has fought tooth and nail to avoid other countries having their own nukes- including the bogus shared nuclear program where America has the software key.


Zelensky is talking about a new NATO without America. It is clear that America now sides with Russia, and has consistently tried to force Ukraine to give up the stronghold land that protects the rest of their country.


I would not be surprised if America is sharing intelligence with Russia. We know how much alike MAGA and the Russian Vatniks are these days.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
20 Apr 2026, 02:09#31

"But what team is that? Simple question to answer."


Not the liberals...not the Boers and not the law abiding ones ...the looters and the shooters with the machetes.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
20 Apr 2026, 04:50#32

I would not be surprised if America is sharing intelligence with Russia. We know how much alike MAGA and the Russian Vatniks are these days.


I wouldn’t be surprised if you thought that.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
20 Apr 2026, 05:08#33

If you can actually call that thought....

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TheTraditionalist
Pro4,003 posts
20 Apr 2026, 05:56#34

Not the liberals...not the Boers and not the law abiding ones ...the looters and the shooters with the machetes.



What an absence of answer.


Not being in team 'liberal' does not tell which team one is in.


And what a failure in self perception. Which was repeated many times already. Liberals have deep problems in self perception.


Liberals as low abiding people? Since when? Liberals can not be in the same team as people who abide by the law. It is very funny because this delusion is written in a thread like this one, where it is pointed out that liberals can even no longer respect NATO for what it is: a defensive alliance with a restricted geographical perimeter.


Being on team 'Boer' is being on team 'oppressor', Being on team 'Boer' is being on a team that wants to censor a song against oppression. Being on team US is being on a team whose national anthem praises killing slaves who rose up to end slavery. The Iranian clique....




There is so not an answer in this. It is empty. Liberals can not answer what asked simple answers. And questions they introduced themselves. They are the ones who introduced the team thing.


So back to the question: what team is that?


It is very funny.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
20 Apr 2026, 12:40#35

What an absence of insight or empathy...I shouldn't even be talking to you...it serves no purpose.

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