He desperately needed an escape route and was stuck between a rock and a hard place. Now he’ll do a victory dance, shouting that he’s won, and with oil prices on his side, he hopes to dodge a GOP wipeout in the midterms and get a break from facing another impeachment.
It’s interesting to observe the concessions he’s made to Iran.
Name those concessions...
A simply list of bullet points will do.
Shut-up clown if you don't understand simple English.
Stop trying to sound clever.
Here from my above post.
'What we still don’t know are the concessions Trump made to get Iran to open the Strait.'
And it's 'A simply simple list of bullet points will do.'
And why do I have a feeling it's an uniformed opinion because a mere search of this site will have you finding me being extremely critical of the Iraq war, detailing how I felt a pretext for the war was created and maintained through deceitful actions by a Republican presidency.
Fair enough, I hadn't seen those posts. Just this was another post were you want people to not bother criticizing Trump and to be more or less grateful that's he partially undoing the massive fuck up that he's caused.
If you can spot a conspiracy in this war but not a debacle in regards of what already known and established as fact you really need to broaden your horizons.
Honestly, I'm not paying too much attention to it because I'm working 14 hours days at the moment, in the middle of a fight involving the competition commission and the racist South African Labour department, launching a training facility and running numerous other contracts at the same time.
As usual, I'll wait to look at the outcome and make my assessments from there. I guess it's one of the luxuries of not being too emotionally invested and not having a dog in the fight.
Not much room for broadening very much, but thanks for the unsolicited, condescending and otherwise pointless advice.
Slav, ButtPlum has always tried to present himself as a pseudo-intellectual which I know can be irritating—just laugh at the clown.
Honestly, I'm not paying too much attention to it because I'm working 14 hours days at the moment, in the middle of a fight involving the competition commission and the racist South African Labour department, launching a training facility and running numerous other contracts at the same time.
Holy Hell, sounds like you have a lot on your plate. Funny though, even with all of that you still have time to post on a non consequential message board.
Just in this blog alone you've posted a total of 6 times.
Man you're a laugh!
You're opposed to the pretext of the Iraq war but not to the pretext of this war?
All Bozo's talk of "they must never have a nuclear weapon" is just more of his bullshit. He started this war to try and effect regime change after Bibi told him all about the leaders being under the same roof. He's only started blathering about nukes since his initial mission failed. Iran's leader (the old guy Bozo killed and replaced with a younger, angrier and more vengeful version) had issued a fatwa against nukes. Iran had no plans to build a nuke and Bozo had boasted about how he had "obliterated" Iran's nuclear capability over a year ago.
All this talk of nukes is as much of a lie as the WMD "reason" for the Iraq war.
If you haven't realised yet that the US uses these same means to justify their oil grabs then you need to catch a wake up and you probably shouldn't be commenting on a political forum.
Let's check...
Are the all the TDSers hoping that nothing comes of this and that potential deals fails?
You can't be serious......what a stupid question.
Get off the zol, your question is both childish and pathetic.
Ummm . . . no . . . we're the ones trying hard to explain to you that a deal to reopen the Straits wouldn't have been necessary if it wasn't for Operation Epic Fail.
Although, it just seems to be a glorified 2-month period of negotiations, rather than a final agreement.
Well, it's an ass about way of negotiating. This was an opportunity for Trump to put his foot down and tell Iran that no nukes and the opening of the Strait is non negotiable. Once that has been agreed upon by Iran then negotiations plus a ceasefire is back on the table.
Start there.
Sour, sour grapes…..meanwhile Venezuela is cooperating and another murderous drug lord bites the dust. Cuba will get some tender loving care as well.
The real irony is all the outraged people who somehow were never outraged by this regime.
Personally I think Trump should have pushed far longer before opening negotiations. Blockading the Straits was the right tactic….threatening to take Kharg Island was the last straw. Another spot on tactic was to hint that reparations to neighbors would be paid out of sequestered Iranian funds.
All the right tools were at hand to complete the job. But even Trump has to live in the real world. European leaders tried their best to sabotage the whole thing and the American public has a disdain for foreign affairs.
This wasn’t the best outcome, but the best given the situation he was dealing with, disloyal allies and voter ignorance.
As usual, I'll wait to look at the outcome and make my assessments from there.
Like how you did with Wuhan Lab leak theory?
I guess it's one of the luxuries of not being too emotionally invested and not having a dog in the fight.
Not much room for broadening very much, but thanks for the unsolicited, condescending and otherwise pointless advice.
So if you don't know much about it, why are you commenting on it here?.
Sour, sour grapes…..meanwhile Venezuela is cooperating and another murderous drug lord bites the dust. Cuba will get some tender loving care as well.
LOL this is just mental. So the Venezuela regime is still in place just with the former VP in command while their security apparatus and gangs remain in place. Mass oppression still occurring but hey that's fine who care's because Venezuela is cooperating with the Don. And now your looking forward to another military intervention in Cuba... you couldn't no make this insanity up. Also shows you how hallow your fake concern is for the Iranian people when you clearly don't give me a toss about the people of Venezuela.
The real irony is all the outraged people who somehow were never outraged by this regime.
Again this disingenuous suggestion that people who don't support Trump's stupid war most be supportive of the Iranian regime.
Personally I think Trump should have pushed far longer before opening negotiations. Blockading the Straits was the right tactic….threatening to take Kharg Island was the last straw. Another spot on tactic was to hint that reparations to neighbors would be paid out of sequestered Iranian funds.
Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat. Sun Tzu
All the right tools were at hand to complete the job. But even Trump has to live in the real world. European leaders tried their best to sabotage the whole thing and the American public has a disdain for foreign affairs.
Europe didn't start this war, it wasn't consulted about it and it wasn't involved in the negotiations. Stop behaving like a toddler blaming everyone else from your own mess. Man up for pity's sake.
This wasn’t the best outcome, but the best given the situation he was dealing with, disloyal allies and voter ignorance.
Yeah it was the best he could do, but all that it does is stopping the situation from becoming worse, it's not an improvement on where the world was before he started this war... it's not even as good as what we had.
Stop blaming allies... this was the US and Israel's mess. Man up.
Voter ignorance... your arrogance knows no bounds... you're even dumping on the average US citizen now.
Actually I wouldn't argue with voter ignorance.
It's voter ignorance that got this incompetent and self-serving clown elected in the first place.
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Man up ….hahaha….like you ever admitted that Ireland is a tax haven and hasn’t done one thing to further international causes….you think the man who commiserated with the death of Hitler is a hero.
This is a massive financial blow to Iran, their nuclear program is certainly compromised and despite all the bluster they are going to have to accept limiting terms, which shows who has actually won the conflict.
As for Europe’s role….pathetic would be too kind a word. But the massive US gift they have been receiving every year in terms of military spending they haven’t had to pay for, is going to diminish . Europe will bear a big financial cost, when all they had to do was act like an ally. Something the US has done, free of charge and with a huge cost in human life, for a 100 years.
Man up ….hahaha….like you ever admitted that Ireland is a tax haven and hasn’t done one thing to further international causes….you think the man who commiserated with the death of Hitler is a hero.
Again you absolute clown of a man... do you really think this constant deflection to topics completely irrelevant from the topic under discussion is any sort of properly way of arguing a point. You wouldn't last a day in an under 16's debating club.
This is a massive financial blow to Iran, their nuclear program is certainly compromised and despite all the bluster they are going to have to accept limiting terms, which shows who has actually won the conflict.
You don't know that. Yes it may have hurt Iran's economy now, but reports say this deal included a waiver to allow Iran to sell it's oil. It's also unclear if some of Iran's frozen sanctions will be unfrozen and Iran is talking about service fees applying being charged to allow ships through the straights. Iran may make up those loses in a matter of months.
As for the nuclear program being compromised, the damage done to it's nuclear program during this war was virtually nothing, considering the US didn't actually attack it.
Everyone and their dog knows this war has been a strategic disaster for the US. You're putting lipstick on a pig.
As for Europe’s role….pathetic would be too kind a word. But the massive US gift they have been receiving every year in terms of military spending they haven’t had to pay for, is going to diminish . Europe will bear a big financial cost, when all they had to do was act like an ally. Something the US has done, free of charge and with a huge cost in human life, for a 100 years.
Again moaning about Europe when this mess had nothing to do with them. All Trumpian American has done is insulted everyone and offered the world endless stupidity, incompetence, arrogance and avoidance of responsibility.
"This is a massive financial blow to Iran, their nuclear program is certainly compromised . . . "
"Compromised"?
Didn't your hero say it had been "obliterated"?
LMAO!
The success of the operation in Iran or lack thereof will only be measurable once the dust has settled and the oil price has stabilized and we know what China and some of the rogue countries pay for their oil and gas vs the rest of the world...same for whatever happens in Ukraine... it's a power struggle over resources and the losers will suffer gradual decline...