So according to you Europe and the Ukraine think this war will go on until one side breaks, or they both stop from sheer exhaustion. But wouldn’t the side that has a tenth of the manpower and whose infrastructure is being destroyed ‘get exhausted’ first.
Yes pretty much, but your assessment of the balance of power is way out.
Going by pre-war population Russia has a manpower advantage of more like 3.5 to 1. It's not 10 to one.
But neither side has fully mobilized. Ukraine choose not recruit the under 25 cohort the age group that provides the most capable soldiers in order to preserve the younger generations. Pre-war that stood at 1.9 million people, granted some of that cohort fled at the start of the war but Ukraine still has the option of mobilizing those who remained which would be several hundred thousand at least. Russia has also opted not fully mobilize its population because Putin fears the consequences of doing this. Instead he's relied on the standard yearly mobilization process in addition to recruiting volunteers by offering high paying contracts (by Russian standards) and mobilizing prisoners as well as using coercive measures on ethnic minorities but not the general population. As result Russia recruitment has mostly just about been able to replace it's manpower losses and at times been sufficient to generate additional new forces, but no one credible is saying the Russian's have an even 3.5 to 1 advantage in manpower, ChatGTP has it 1.7 to 1 for combat troops and 1.5 to 1 for total active military personal In Russia's favor. Not good for Ukraine, but for a side sitting mostly on the defensive, it's not insurmountable either.
As for infrastructure, both sides are attacking each others, though with Ukraine it's more about trying to apply economic additional economic pressure on Russia in combination with the sanctions to see if Russia's economy will tank and the Russian people will then turn on Putin. Where's as Russia's attacks on Ukraine are more about breaking Ukraine civilian morale.
However I think you also overestimate Russia's capability here, because for all they have done with their attacks, Ukraine's domestic military production has soared. In 2022 Ukraine only produced $1 billion worth of military equipment, but as of this month they are now producing at a rate of $35 billion worth and that maybe only around half of Ukraine's maximum potential output. Presently Ukraine's output accounts for about 40% of all Ukraine's military arm supplies. Ukraine is for example producing over 2 million drones a year with the potential of going to 5 or 6 million drones. Currently 80% of all causalities inflicted on the Russian's are by drones.
And we haven't even spoken about western aid.
And if Trump has a bad round of golf he might try to stop the Ukraine from even buying military equipment? Seriously?
No, its more if he takes offense at something Zelensky or a European leader says or does. Yes seriously did you not see Trump's comments yesterday
"Zelensky always wants to buy missiles [Patriot]. Listen, when you start a war, you have to know you can win it. You can’t start a war against someone who is 20 times your size and then expect people to give you missiles,"
Putin has a strong hand and is not negotiating in good faith. He never was. But this is not a popular war in Russia and the precipitous fall in oil prices is going to have its own effect. It’s a messy business and the desire to punish Putin is understandable.
It's no where near as strong as you think. Right now Ukraine is laying vast rows of barbed wire. Why barbed wire in 2025?, because most Russian attacks are infantry only. We can see in the Russian vehicle losses ratios, that there is an every increasing amount of civilian vehicles being counted in the Russia losses, why because they are running out of tanks, APC's and IFV's and have to use civilian vehicles. Satellite footage shows the gradual emptying out of Soviet vehicle deports. This is why Russia has been seen mounting assaults on scrambler bikes and from Lada's. We have footage of Russia soldier's assault positions while using crutches, donkeys being used to transport equipment. Russia does have advantages, but presently it doesn't seem to be capable of anything more than slow grinding assaults
And its not about pushing Putin, it's about not putting Ukraine into a weakened position were it will be unable to defend itself from future Russian aggression.
But the negotiations are the only hope for avoiding even more tragedy. Both Europe and the US should be pushing for peace and using all the tools in the toolbox to try to make that happen,
A weak peace will lead to an even greater tragedy. Putin doesn't want peace. He want's Ukraine to surrender or be handed to him on a plate. The US and Europe should be pushing for the right kind of peace, one they along with Ukraine mostly dictate, not Russia.
There is no magical better outcome for the Ukraine in never ending war.
Well it's not a certainty but its wouldn't be a magical outcome either that the Russian economy implodes either resulting in domestic pressure forcing Putin to stop, or hobbling military production so much that the Russian's conclude they can't advance any further on the battlefield and are then willing to accept more balanced peace terms.