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The Economist on the 2014 coup

Started by Mozart3 REPLIES219 VIEWS· 25 Jun 2023, 19:50
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Jun 2023, 19:50
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25 Jun 2023, 19:50#1

I don’t always agree with the Economist, but they play both sides of the court, so they tend to be balanced. Here is their take:


Just about any self-respecting modern protest movement will claim to be a revolution. What happened in Ukraine in 2014 is one of the few worthy of the label. It ushered in a transformation of Ukraine’s society and state that is both deeply ambitious and tragically incomplete. It is a national project that continues to this day, and though its imperfections leave many Ukrainians disillusioned, its successes frighten Vladimir Putin. As the Russian president ponders an invasion, he threatens the gains made by Ukraine over the past eight years. What are those, exactly?

The first victory came when protesters at Maidan square in Kyiv, Ukraine’s capital, ousted a thuggish Russian-backed president, Viktor Yanukovych. In four years Mr Yanukovych and his friends looted around $100bn from a country with an economy the size of Nebraska’s. Leaned on by Mr Putin, in 2013 Mr Yanukovych abandoned Ukraine’s Association Agreement with the EU—a framework for closer economic ties—and moved to join its Russian-led rival. Mr Yanukovych ordered police to shoot protesters who opposed him. In the chaos, bonds formed. For the first time at Maidan “a huge number of people learned to trust each other”, according to Kebuladze Vakhtang, a philosopher. When the crowds swelled further, Mr Yanukovych fled to Russia. So began Ukraine’s “Revolution of Dignity”.


Since it gained independence from the Soviet Union in 1991 Ukraine had played Russia and the West off against one another, with alternative governments leaning one way, but never fully eschewing the other. When Mr Putin seized Crimea and backed separatists in the Donbas region in 2014, he redrew Ukraine’s political map, too. The most pro-Russian areas of the country could no longer vote in elections. And elsewhere most Ukrainians grew convinced that Russia was Ukraine’s enemy. That paved the way for the country’s first uninterrupted pro-Western tilt.

An ascendant civil society of activists, journalists and thinkers urged on efforts to reform. Parliament changed the constitution to hobble the presidency and empower lawmakers. Western donors such as America, and institutions such as the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, boosted them directly and issued loans to the government contingent on reforms. Regulators abolished more than half of Ukraine’s banks, where a scheme to funnel state money to bank owners had persisted for a decade. The biggest, PrivatBank, was nationalised. Naftogaz, the money-losing state oil giant, was revamped. The main police force was abolished and rebuilt. New gizmos ensured transparency for government tenders. Tax collection, industry regulation and digital government all improved. Together these reforms save Ukraine billions of dollars a year, even if corruption remains rampant in other areas. 

These technocratic changes took place alongside a deeper transformation of national identity. In polls the number of Ukrainians professing to be proud of their nationality has climbed from 50% before the revolution to above 70%. Citizens increasingly declare their “primary” identity to be Ukrainian, rather than that of their village, town or region, says Oleksiy Haran, a political scientist at the Kyiv-Mohyla Academy. A campaign to boost the Ukrainian language at the expense of Russian is in full swing. The West is more than just an idea for Ukrainians; it is a partner. Trade with Russia has collapsed since 2014 (see chart). Supply chains have been remade to run through Europe. Visa-free travel to the EU, introduced in 2017, allows millions more Ukrainians each year the chance to make friends and memories in the West. Meanwhile, Ukraine has enthusiastically increased military co-operation with NATO, and spent billions on fixing up its armed forces so that it might one day join. 

None of this means that Ukrainians regard the past eight years as a golden age. Many are frustrated with the slow pace of change. That explains why voters elected Volodymyr Zelensky, a political novice and former comedian, as president in 2019. Corrupt courts with biddable judges are the weakest point in efforts to bolster the rule of law. Oligarchs remain too dominant, and politics dysfunctional. Ukrainians are poorer than they were in 1991. But reforms require patience, and gains can accumulate impressively with time. In Mr Putin’s eyes, Ukraine will soon become a trojan horse for NATO and America to place their missiles closer to Moscow. Ukraine also provides the strongest evidence that progress towards democracy is an option for Russia, too. That is why Mr Putin would like Ukraine’s revolution to fail, one way or another



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Jun 2023, 01:26
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26 Jun 2023, 01:26#2

The whole story of the Crimea is total BS.    Why was a large part of Russia that was never part of Ukraine ever in history redrawn by the Communist Party in 1953. because of the collaboration by Ukraine with Germany in World War2.   The easy solution was to increase the Russian Component of the Ukraine population by redrawing the borders of the USSR Republic of Ukraine.   When the future was dealt with a Democratic Constitution guaranteeing human rights of all people.    n an equal basis was approved/   

The revolution as the paper called it resulted in the discarding  of the 1991 Constitution and the Russian Speaking population feared that the new Government of Ukraine would discriminate against them.   That in why the Civil War in Eastern Ukrainebroke out.   .   There was the support of the Unconstitutional Government in Kiev by the USA and the rebels received armaments from the Russian Government.        That Civil War lasted since 2014 until now.   

The Crimea was an entirely different situation.   In terms of the 1991 Constitution provided for the Crimea (with its 95% Russian Population had their own Parliament which  would be responsible for the  internal Governance of Ukraine.   In fact apart fo the   With the Constitution gone the Crimean Parliament  s  Ukraine gone and fearing that the of the Donbas lrethe Civil War would be extended to Ukraine.   another agreement was signed about usage of t Crimea Naval      

With the 1991 Constitution of Ukraine in the waste paper basket, the population feared that the    the Civil War would spread-to the Crime and decided that a referendum  should be  held as to the future of the Crimea. and bearing in mind the population stats quoted above only 5% of the    vote supported the remaining Oblasts voted for incorporation of the Crimea into the Russian Federation.    

Maybe the Russian component of Ukraine population knew what as coming n future and the fears were confirm by a 2023 statement to the effect that the Crimea should be moving away - when Zelenskyy's; Chief Advisor by stating openly that the Russians should be removed from the area through ethnic cleansing and the destruction of Russian Culture in Ukraine.      

      

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
26 Jun 2023, 04:23
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26 Jun 2023, 04:23#3

That's the thing about democrazy. You get rid of the opposition voters as Zelensky tried to and then hold an election.

Pretty obvious why USA and Russia clash over Crimea. It's all about the deep water harbour there. 

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
26 Jun 2023, 06:12
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26 Jun 2023, 06:12#4

Liberals have this trick: they remove themselves from any initiative and therefore when a reaction happens, they paint it as an action, allowing them to appear as victims.


The government in Ukraine was an elected one. And was indeed favourable to russian interests.

From that point, Russia had  nothing to fear from elections as elections provided them with a government favourable to them.

Then the coup happened. A coup that would kill hundreds of police officers in the doing (liberal countries validated use of lethal force from a state for much fewer casualties)

The coup was backed by liberal countries.

It is understood that Russia (and others) may consider the whole move with a disgusted eye.

Liberal nations once again dropped the mask, and went against an elected government, backing violent protesters who were killing state agents.

Things that liberals may condemn and even considered as causes to invade countries.

After the 2014 coup, getting to the conclusion that liberals saw the regular election of a government as flawed was because it was favourable to russian interests, not theirs.

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