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The End is Nigh: Stammering Starmer...

Started by sharkbok37 REPLIES523 VIEWS· 23 Apr 2026, 01:31
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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
23 Apr 2026, 01:31#1

UK is heading for the mid-term bi-elections in May. It appears pretty certain that Labour are in for a beating. It even seems they will lose Wales to Reform, where Labour was apparently formed, and appear to always vote Labour. London is looking like a toss-up between the Greens and Reform.


So far, Reform has been a disaster at running local councils - with many councillors resigning, getting fired or defecting to another party.


Labour needs a new leader, someone who is actually left-wing, but must stick to a tough immigration stance.



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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
23 Apr 2026, 01:44#2

Boggles the mind that a weakling nerd like Starmer made it to the top in British poletics...WTH has gotten into the Poms?...probably the same horse-sh!t responsible for the DA leadership in SA...from Steenbroek to Hillbroek. Pathetic...give me an erratic Trump over these wankers every day...and twice on Sunday...damn, I won't see that ever again during my lifetime....what a ride!!!

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TheTraditionalist
Pro4,003 posts
23 Apr 2026, 04:57#3

Liberals can not wrap their minds around their own system.


The UK has had a strong stance against immigration, contravening liberal tenets.


It is no longer 1776, one party must pretend and can not compete plainly to do the same policies as the other party.


Concentration of wealth is going to increase in liberal societies, which means liberal societies are going to work for fewer and fewer people. Which means that parties whose platform is addressed to people outside the winner gonna win circle are going to disappoint and lose.


Liberals have lost any kind of autonomy: they are now fully depend on the State.

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Xavi
Pro1,924 posts
23 Apr 2026, 08:57#4

"Labour needs a new leader, someone who is actually left-wing, but must stick to a tough immigration stance."


I dunno pal, When the left wing is spending more on welfare than they are raising in tax we've got bigger issues than immigrants.

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
23 Apr 2026, 17:30#5

Yes, Xavi - Starmer promised that if more tax were needed, it would be taken from the richest 1%.

Instead, Labour raised taxes for everyone.


Starmer has done nothing that he promised to do in his manifesto, and many things that he promised not to do. He has been a weak and ineffective prime minister. He constantly backpedals on things and then reverts to how it was in the past.


I am not sure what has happened to politicians. Boris Johnson, Liz Truss, and now the Kier Stammering liar.


On the positive side, at least the UK can fire their primeministers during their terms, so it looks like we are in for a bumpy ride.




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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
23 Apr 2026, 17:55#6

Starmer has done nothing that he promised to do in his manifesto, and many things that he promised not to do.


That isn't true.


https://www.joe.co.uk/politics/labour-has-already-delivered-or-making-progress-towards-two-thirds-of-its-manifesto-pledges-509280?utm_source=copilot.com


Can't blame you for not knowing though. Labour are garbage at communicating and most of the UK media is hostile too them.


He constantly backpedals on things and then reverts to how it was in the past.


Sort of. He backpedals to remove unpopular parts of some of Labours policies but that isn't the same as just reverting back to how things were. Again this is Labours fault, first for the bad parts of the policy and then back peddling while allowing their opponents to control the narrative.


If you think about it. What exactly has he done that's so terrible to warrant his unpopularity. Most people can't name any Labour policies good or bad and the economy has done alright under Labour given the circumstances.

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TheTraditionalist
Pro4,003 posts
23 Apr 2026, 18:06#7

Cutting down energy subsidies in the middle of winter.

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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
23 Apr 2026, 18:23#8

Well yes that's the one that did all the damage.


In theory changing the Winter Fuel allowance to be mean's tested seemed like a reasonable way of making up the £22 billion budget deficit hole the Tories had hidden away.


As the payment was previously universal this meant a large share of those receiving the benefit didn't actually need it. Particular middle income and higher income pensioners. So the switch to making it mean's tested seemed reasonable in practise but it was always going to meet with resistance and not unreasonable so.


You would think however such benefit cutting would of been popular with the likes of I don't know some posters on here.


Oh hi Xavi!



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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
23 Apr 2026, 19:11#9

not unreasonable so.


Oh dear

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
23 Apr 2026, 19:52#10

Benefits are receiving something somebody else paid for...how do those paying for it feel?

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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
23 Apr 2026, 22:47#11

Not into sharing Draad?, Greed more your thing...how very Christian of you.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
23 Apr 2026, 23:26#12

Shame on you Draad. Without having any knowledge of your charitable efforts, the Mick has figured out you aren’t a good person. And somebody actually ‘likes’ that comment.

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
23 Apr 2026, 23:30#13

If people pay tax, they should be entitled to benefits like health care. Otherwise, move to a tax-less society where people can pay for their own health care etc.


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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
24 Apr 2026, 00:14#14

Shame on you Draad. Without having any knowledge of your charitable efforts, the Mick has figured out you aren’t a good person. And somebody actually ‘likes’ that comment.


Ah yes that's the spirit, individual charity will make up for the horribly society you political ideology advocates for.




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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
24 Apr 2026, 00:31#15

Ah yes that's the spirit, individual charity will make up for the horribly society you political ideology advocates for.



Oh you mean the country everybody wants to emigrate to….’refugees you can go to Ireland or the USA’ ….’what, nobody for Ireland except Mohammed’


which is the ‘horribly society’


ROFL

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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
24 Apr 2026, 00:47#16

I'd love for you to have one day look the kids and people in the eye who are now dying or suffering from disease and malnutrition with the ending of USAAID and tell them it was all worth while because the richest country in the world (which also happens to be one of the most unequal when it comes to wealth) was convinced by a conman that the world was screwing it over. Also it owned the libs and screw DEI.


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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
24 Apr 2026, 01:35#17

America is being carried by Big Tech, but monopolies and the resultant concentration of wealth and power in a small minority is destroying their society. They have become the Divided States of America.


At the current rate we can expect to see California leave the US and become its own country. Why do they need to put up with 4 years of a president decided by dumb Americans from red states.


45% of Californians want to become their own country, and this percentage continues to grow.


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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
24 Apr 2026, 01:41#18

That is a good point Stav. America talk about wanting a fair deal with international trade, while simultaneously being unfair in their own society.


This is not the America of old, it has changed. It has turned into a corrupt Oligarchy cabal, with their politicians representing the shareholder. Most of their politicians are large owners of Big Tech stock.


I would prefer to cut ties with America, and start blocking their Big Tech products. It is probably doing America a favour, as it will end their corrupt cabal of incestuous insider-trading.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
24 Apr 2026, 01:55#19

I'd love for you to have one day look the kids and people in the eye who are now dying or suffering from disease and malnutrition


Well that would be sad, but at least I know I have given every year for at least 25 years to Doctors Without Borders, and several other international causes.


And just for reference the US is ranked the 4th most charitable country, in spite of a much more diverse population than Europe…..Ireland isn’t in the top 10, Germany isn’t in the top 30.


Talk is cheap

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
24 Apr 2026, 04:14#20

"Not into sharing Draad?, Greed more your thing...how very Christian of you."


I like to decide what to do with my charity...the government waste more than they do good...bottomless pit. I am not greedy at all...you know nothing about me, but yet seems to think you're justified in taking these cheap shots at me all the time...personal cheap shots with specific references to my Christianity...to be expected ...no surprise.

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