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The Lincoln Project - To end Trumpism, not Republicanism

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
01 Aug 2020, 18:33
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01 Aug 2020, 18:33#1

Some smart republicans can see Trump for the con-man that he is.
They have taken in over 20 million dollars in a few weeks from doners in the hundreds of thousands.

I urge everyone to make a donation to help replace a third world style leader.  https://secure.anedot.com/the-lincoln-project/donate







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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Aug 2020, 21:44
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01 Aug 2020, 21:44#4

Shark...

Trump is an old man with kak hair.

Find someone else to jack off too. FFS. It's getting creepy.

Also, the week is almost out.

Looks like you need my help after all.

PS Fake news

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
02 Aug 2020, 14:27
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02 Aug 2020, 14:27#5
Are you still playing hard to get with aliens Bum Plum? They made you their bitch, and now you do free advertising for them.., 
Anyone who believes the government is hiding aliens is far below average intelligence. The alternative reality, ha, ha
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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
02 Aug 2020, 14:27
#6
02 Aug 2020, 14:27#6
Are you still playing hard to get with aliens Bum Plum? They made you their bitch, and now you do free advertising for them.., 
Anyone who believes the government is hiding aliens is far below average intelligence. The alternative reality, ha, ha
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Aug 2020, 15:24
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02 Aug 2020, 15:24#7

Oh, the government is hiding aliens?

That's news to me.

Kindly show where I said that.

Lol the toolness continues.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Aug 2020, 15:39
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02 Aug 2020, 15:39#8

Bwhahaha...

Here's another redneck right wing conspiracy media outlet touting yet more of their conspiracies.

Gosh, they're making good use of all that Nazi gold.

You unadulterated TOOL.

"National Review your source-  is a far-right media source targeted at dummies." - VrotVis 2020


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Aug 2020, 15:48
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02 Aug 2020, 15:48#9

"The Pentagon closed this department some time ago, as it was given such little budget as time went on. Even the red necks have moved on from this garbage."

- VrotKop 2020

Wrong, yet again. 

I won't dwell on it. 

Suffice to say, just chips for me please, the fish is off. 

...So off.

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
02 Aug 2020, 19:46
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02 Aug 2020, 19:46#10


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Aug 2020, 20:31
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02 Aug 2020, 20:31#11

Haha

The twit retreats to his memes when his toolness is exposed .

Must suck to be you Vrottie.

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
02 Aug 2020, 20:47
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02 Aug 2020, 20:47#12





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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Aug 2020, 21:12
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02 Aug 2020, 21:12#13

 W hat a cowardly little girl.

Go on genius, I'm still waiting to hear how the NYT and CNN are redneck conspiracy theorists.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
02 Aug 2020, 21:28
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Aug 2020, 21:54
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02 Aug 2020, 21:54#15

Lol...and back to Trump.

Nah bud, I wanna hear more about the Naz i news.

CNN = Corporate Nazi Network

Right, old Vrottie?

PS The week is almost up.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Aug 2020, 08:38
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03 Aug 2020, 08:38#16
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Aug 2020, 09:14
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03 Aug 2020, 09:14#17

Rooi, perhaps you could shed some light on CNN and the NYT being redneck outlets spouting conspiracy theories.

Your pal Shark is completely at a loss.

...as, you'll note from the memes above and those to come.


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Aug 2020, 10:52
#18
03 Aug 2020, 10:52#18

Hmmm . . . you mean like when you Trumpanzees were all at a loss to comment on how difficult the cognitive test was?

Same?

Or when not one of you Trumpanzees could give your opinion on whether Bozo meant to say "Nobel Prizes" or "Noble Prizes"?

Or how about when you Trumpanzees were asked what it was that Bozo claimed he was being "sarcastic" about if it wasn't the comment about injecting bleach into the body?

Hmmm?

That kind of "at a loss", Dumb Plum?

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Aug 2020, 11:12
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03 Aug 2020, 11:12#19

"Hmmm . . . you mean like when you Trumpanzees were all at a loss to comment on how difficult the cognitive test was?"

In all three instances above, you raised your own original point and question, then demanded an answer.

Quite different situation to putting on one's running shoes when confronted with your own words, like Vrottie.

The fastest moving toolbox in all of Brakpan.






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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Aug 2020, 11:14
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03 Aug 2020, 11:14#20
How does that change the fact that not one of you Trumpanzees had the courage to answer any of those three simple questions yet here you are squeaking because someone hasn't answered yours?
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Aug 2020, 11:21
#21
03 Aug 2020, 11:21#21

Who said it was meant to change the above?

Y ou see the difference. I know you do.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
03 Aug 2020, 11:26
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03 Aug 2020, 11:26#22

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jul/17/the-guy-stinks-and-hes-a-racist-anthony-scaramucci-on-donald-trump

'The guy stinks and he’s a racist': Anthony Scaramucci on Donald Trump David Smith in Washington

‘The Mooch’ explains why, even after his swift dismissal from the White House, he stayed loyal, until Trump’s online bullying finally made him see the light

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His was a flame that burned twice as bright and half as long. Anthony Scaramucci’s tenure in Donald Trump’s White House lasted just 11 days, which may be some kind of record. But it was a cameo of blinding incandescence that removed the scales from his eyes.

Many officials fired by Trump have sought what might be seen as moral decontamination, a purging of the soul, by turning ostentatiously against him. But few have done it with the ferocity of the man nicknamed “The Mooch”, who in the space of a half-hour FaceTime interview calls the US president “very crazy”, “low life”, “full-blown racist”, “son of a bitch”, “maniacally narcissistic” and “off his rocker”.

Scaramucci is as New York as skyscrapers, subways and Sinatra. He knew Trump from the Big Apple. “When you were sitting in the room with him 10 years ago, he’s a garrulous person, self-absorbed but funny and a raconteur and, at times, very rakish and very charming, and you would enjoy his personality, frankly, and he had a good sense of humour,” he says. Scaramucci, at home in Southampton, Long Island, is wearing a Superman T-shirt, and cable news is playing on a big wall-mounted TV.

“Now you would find him to be more brittle, defensive and self-exclamatory where he’s just launching into these run-on long sentences. He’s having a conversation with himself and it’s a rationalisation of who he is and what he’s doing and he’s trying to explain to everybody that he knows it all, he’s got it all figured out, and that’s a great tragedy in itself because nobody has it all figured out.”

Scaramucci, a Harvard law school graduate and former Goldman Sachs banker, founded the global hedge fund SkyBridge Capital in 2005. Three years ago next week, on 21 July 2017, he was hired by Trump as communications director, despite the objections of the press secretary, Sean Spicer, who resigned in protest, and the chief of staff, Reince Priebus.

Maureen Dowd, a New York Times columnist, opined that Trump had found an ideal courtier: “A wealthy mini-me Manhattan bro with wolfy smile and slick coif who will say anything and flip any position. A self-promoter extraordinaire and master salesman who doesn’t mind pushing a bad product – and probably sees it as more fun.”

This wolf of Wall Street delivered a maiden press briefing with self-assurance and swagger that culminated with an air kiss to the White House press corps. His new boss was not impressed.

Scaramucci’s fate was sealed with an air kiss. Photograph: Pablo Martínez Monsiváis/AP

Scaramucci says: “In my 11 days, the great irony was some people said my press conference was well handled and well executed, but Trump was not in love with it, which indicated to me that I was going to end up having a problem with him because he’s not one to allow anybody else on that stage.

“One cabinet official said to me there are two things that, if he says to you, you know you’re in trouble: one, you’re getting more famous than me; or two, you’re getting too much attention. That’s like your near-death experience. He said to [FBI Director James] Comey, you’re getting more famous than me, and then a week later he was fired.”

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But during that brief spell in the west wing, Scaramucci observed up close the most powerful man in the world. “My observation was, OK, he’s not listening, and good leadership requires delegation and listening, and he’s too defensive and too insecure to actually take in input,” he says.

“I found that when I was briefing him, I had to put pictures of him in the briefing. When I put the pictures in, it was a good sign, and when I didn’t put the pictures in, you couldn’t get him to focus on it.

“Here’s the bad news, though. Even if you got him to focus on it, he wouldn’t listen to you anyway because he’s so maniacally narcissistic. He wants to immobilise everybody around him and then he wants to go on and win the presidency anyway on this nihilistic rampage and show everybody, ‘See, I wiped out all of you with napalm and I didn’t need any of you.’ That’s full blown narcissism.”

Scaramucci was dismissed on 31 July 2017 after he gave an expletive-laced interview to the New Yorker magazine and made derogatory statements about White House officials including Priebus and chief strategist Steve Bannon, both of whom are now long gone.

“I was crestfallen about the firing, but listen, it’s not the first time I’ve been fired – I’m a little bit of a rogue, I’m an entrepreneur,” Scaramucci recalls. “I made a mistake. I did something fireable. I am accountable for my mistakes.”

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If he had not been fired, wouldn’t he have quit by now, as the Trump administration lurched from disaster to disgrace? “I don’t want to pretend about what I would have done because I would tell you this as a cautionary tale about ego. When you’ve got your ego involved in something, you do things that are irrational and your emotions go up and your intelligence goes low.

“I was fully invested in getting rid of Steve Bannon and Reince Priebus. I would like to think that I would have stood on principle during the Charlottesville situation [when Trump drew equivalence between white nationalists and anti-fascists] because that was a week after my departure. I thought that was ridiculous.

‘I found that when I was briefing him, I had to put pictures of him in the briefing’: Scaramucci on Trump. Photograph: Twitter

“Even if I didn’t stand on principle – let’s say I was into moral equivocation that you see in many of these people working for President Trump or trying to justify themselves through cognitive distance, ‘If I wasn’t here, it would be worse,’ and all the stuff that they say to themselves – I would have been fired anyway.

“I may not have made it 15 days or 20 days because my personality is not suitable for President Trump’s. I’m an entrepreneur. I’m an independent thinker. He doesn’t like iconoclastic or independent thinking, so I don’t think I would have lasted very long. But listen, the universe and the good Lord works in very strange ways: saved my ass.

“As I told Trump when we were still friendly, after I got fired he called me and asked me how I was doing, I said: ‘Relax, you’ve made me as famous as Melania and Ivanka and I didn’t have to sleep with you or be your daughter, so I’m going to be totally fine, you never have to worry about me.’ I know how to roll with the punches.”

But Scaramucci likens what happened next to being Tim Robbins’s character in the film The Shawshank Redemption, escaping from jail by hurtling down a sewer pipe and eventually being spat out.

“If you’ve never experienced being on the front page of a tabloid when your personal life is being destroyed and you’re being disfigured as a human being and a lot of lies are being said about you, and then you’re getting lit up … that is The Shawshank Redemption, because you have to go through that sewer pipe of humiliation and shame and you’re being disfigured.

“You have people that don’t even know who you are forming a negative opinion of you based on these snippets of information without really getting the full blown context or texture of your personality. You learn to live with it and you also learn to use your sense of humour and your grounding wires in life to just roll with it.

“I don’t think about it much today, but I will say this: it made me a better person. It made me more psychologically aware. I turned on Trump in August 2019; I was loyal to him for two years after my departure. Somebody said to me: ‘Well, you turned on Trump. He’s the same guy that he was in 2015, so why did you turn on him? He’s doing the exact same things.’

“I looked at the person and said: ‘Well he may be the same guy, but I’m not the same guy. I’m a different person today than I was in 2015 or 2017. I think I’ve got a lot more psychological awareness and a lot more depth of understanding of what’s going on and, remember, we’re products of our environment.

“We grow up in a certain background, with certain prejudices and biases, and you need earthshaking experiences sometimes to wake you up to what other people’s realities are and what they’re dealing with.”

Scaramucci, who is of Italian descent, chose to speak out when Trump attacked four Democratic congresswomen of colour known as “the Squad” and suggested that they should “go back” to their countries, even though all are American.

“I said, ‘OK, that’s enough for me and I cannot be affiliated with this any more’, I’m not going to disavow my personal integrity and my life story to support this man. I’m not going to make the equivocations that these other people are making: ‘Well, it’s Republican, it’s judges, it’s policies.’ No, the guy stinks and he’s a racist and he’s an American nativist.”

As a result Scaramucci, who took part in a recent BBC Three documentary, Trump in Tweets, ended up in a Twitter fight with the president that spiralled out of control. “Once he attacked my wife, I took the gloves off because you’re not allowed to attack my family members or my wife. He knew my wife and I were having marital issues in 2017 and he still went after her on the presidential Twitter feed, so he’s a low life. Once he did that, then I just started eviscerating him.”

Trump’s online bullying had real world consequences. Scaramucci says: “I had people taking pictures of my front door, saying they were going to come through the front door and hurt my family. I had a squad car outside my house because the threat seemed legitimate and the FBI was working on it. But that’s the America we’re living in now. If you have a political opinion in America now, you have to have that sort of nonsense going on.”

As the BBC programme documented, Trump’s ability to weaponise Twitter helped him with the White House in 2016 but, Scaramucci believes, it will lead to defeat this November. “You’re getting his full-blown impetuosity and his craziness and his viciousness and I think it’s very bad. History will reflect poorly on it and it will be his undoing.

“He’s going to get destroyed. It’s not even close how badly he’s going to get destroyed. His ardent support is wilting and, by November, there’ll be over 200,000 people dead from the coronavirus. This is not 2016, where he’s an unknown entity and you have this very polarising figure, Hillary Clinton. He’s also got guys like me that are Republicans that are going to work on hiving off 3 to 5% of the Republicans.”

Having voted for Trump in 2016, Scaramucci will vote for his opponent, Joe Biden, in November 2020 and he believes the long national nightmare will soon be over. “I always tell people 120 days is, like 500 years in Trump World but he’s on a trajectory of a downward slope and he’s doing something – because I know the son of a bitch well – he’s doing something that I find fascinating. He’s subconsciously self-detonating.

“He’s doing things every single day that is literally forcibly unravelling his political career and that is the hidden secret, the underbelly of a narcissist. They have a very full blown self-destructive streak in their personalities. He’s got his hand on the self detonator now.”

BBC Three’s Trump in Tweets is now available on BBC iPlayer in the UK, and is on BBC Two, Sunday 19 July, 10pm

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Aug 2020, 13:45
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03 Aug 2020, 13:45#23

Sounds like a disgruntled loon to me. 

How many people have had good words to say about their boss once they got fired?

Got given a chance, failed and then blames everybody but himself. 

Basically, I was so good that they had to sack me. What a joker.

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
03 Aug 2020, 14:14
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03 Aug 2020, 14:14#24



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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
03 Aug 2020, 14:25
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Aug 2020, 14:41
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03 Aug 2020, 14:41#26

Wow VrotKop!!

That's hard-hitting news.

What did CNN & NYT have to say about it???

My guess is that they would have defended Trump to the hilt. That's par for the course when it comes to news agencies funded by Nazi gold and with routes that go back to Hitler.

They'll probably tout some conspiracy about how aliens control Trump and are basically the overlords of humanity's destruction...right?



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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
03 Aug 2020, 16:42
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03 Aug 2020, 16:42#27
Don't worry Bum Plum, you will prove that mainstream reality is incorrect, and your alternate reality is correct. You were molested by aliens, it is not a conspiracy. 

You can quote some articles that have been republished by other media outlets, but there is also some tongue and cheek. Doubt anyone credible in these media outlets believes the story, and most of their readers will probably not take much notice of the article.
Everyone has heard these stories before. They always start with "former" Pentagon agent to reveal confidential evidence that proves aliens are here. It never happens... Just like the end of the world stories. Does the little boy who cried wolf. Why is this story any different than others? 
The Pentagon will admit all of their alien activity very soon, or at least so you say... So it won't be long before you can say I told you so... Sure Dumb Plumb... 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Aug 2020, 21:47
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03 Aug 2020, 21:47#28

Except that they did actually declare that some of the video footage doing the rounds are in fact real airforce footage and cannot be explained by any known technology....where there is smoke...

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
03 Aug 2020, 22:03
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03 Aug 2020, 22:03#29
They said, that they said, that they said..... Same story, on a different day.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Aug 2020, 02:51
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04 Aug 2020, 02:51#30

Hahaha

Tool

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Aug 2020, 11:51
#31
04 Aug 2020, 11:51#31

"They said, that they said, that they said..... Same story, on a different day."


Well that's just wrong because here is the list of firsts...

1) US Military confirmation of unknown craft.

2) US Military release tactical grade footage of encounters.

3) The confirmation of AATIP program.

4) The program lead comes forward after which his claimed role is verified by authorities.

5) Confirmation that the US government has been briefed on the topic with the most interesting outcome again pertaining to an unknown technology.

Those are just the headlines Vrottie. And they are ALL firsts.

You see how your use of the phrase "same story" is kinda silly?

It would be quite funny to hear how you put this all together in your head.

You must realise that your only way to rationally explain this is through claiming it to be a conspiracy by people at high levels of government and military. 

No?

Ok, cool. Then explain to me how it's not ufos OR a government/military conspiracy.

Haha i never took you for a tinfoil hat wearer Vrottie.









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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Aug 2020, 11:51
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04 Aug 2020, 11:51#32

And here come the memes...

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Aug 2020, 12:06
#33
04 Aug 2020, 12:06#33
Uh-oh . . . sounds like the aliens have returned. That would explain why Dumb Plum is looking a bit nervous and standing with his back to the wall!
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Aug 2020, 13:16
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04 Aug 2020, 13:16#34

Huh?

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
04 Aug 2020, 13:53
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04 Aug 2020, 13:53#35

Conspiracy theories are driven by people, not facts

You can't really argue with people who believe in conspiracy theories, because their beliefs aren't rational. Instead, they are often fear- or paranoia-based beliefs that, when confronted with contrarian factual evidence, will dismiss both the evidence and the messenger who brings it.2 That's because conspiracy theories are driven by the people who believe and spread them and their own psychological makeup — not on the factual support or logical reasoning of the theory itself.

Conspiracy theories aren't going away, for as long as there are people who have a need to believe in them, they will continue to expand and thrive. The Internet and social media sites such as Facebook have only made such theories even easier to spread. Save your breath arguing with people who believe in them, as no amount of facts will dissuade them from their false belief.


Conspiracy theories make a person feel special

Lantian et al.'s (2017) research examined the role of a person's 'need for uniqueness' and a belief of conspiracy theories, and found a correlation.

We argue that people high in need for uniqueness should be more likely than others to endorse conspiracy beliefs because conspiracy theories represent the possession of unconventional and potentially scarce information. […] Moreover, conspiracy theories rely on narratives that refer to secret knowledge (Mason, 2002) or information, which, by definition, is not accessible to everyone, otherwise it would not be a secret and it would be a well-known fact.

People who believe in conspiracy theories can feel "special," in a positive sense, because they may feel that they are more informed than others about important social and political events. […]

Our findings can also be connected to recent research demonstrating that individual narcissism, or a grandiose idea of the self, is positively related to belief in conspiracy theories. Interestingly, Cichocka et al. (2016) found that paranoid thought mediates the relationship between individual narcissism and conspiracy beliefs.

The current work suggests, however, that need for uniqueness could be an additional mediator of this relationship. Indeed, previous work has shown that narcissism is positively correlated with need for uniqueness (Emmons, 1984) and here we showed that need for uniqueness is related to conspiracy belief.

The psychology behind conspiracy theories

Researchers have been hard at work examining why a small minority of the population believe, and even thrive, on conspiracy theories.

Lantian et al. (2017) summarize the characteristics associated with a person who is likely to believe in conspiracy theories:

… personality traits such as openness to experience, distrust, low agreeability, and Machiavellianism are associated with conspiracy belief.

"Low agreeability" refers to a trait of "agreeableness," which psychologists define as how much an individual is dependable, kind, and cooperative. Someone with low agreeability is an individual who is usually not very dependable, kind, or cooperative. Machiavellianism refers to a personality trait where a person is so "focused on their own interests they will manipulate, deceive, and exploit others to achieve their goals."

Lantian et al. (2017) continue:

In terms of cognitive processes, people with stronger conspiracy beliefs are more likely to overestimate the likelihood of co-occurring events, to attribute intentionality where it is unlikely to exist, and to have lower levels of analytic thinking.

None of this should be surprising, because once you start to analyze a situation with demonstrable facts, it usually — and quite thoroughly — will break down the conspiracy theory into its component parts, none of which make sense standing on their own. For example, with zero evidence, conspiracy theorists need to invent a reason for a second shooter in Las Vegas, to match what they see as "facts." But once a person starts inventing a narrative out of thin air, you can see very little critical thinking occurring.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Aug 2020, 14:05
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04 Aug 2020, 14:05#36
Sharkbok, I think you'll find it easier to deal with Dumb Plum if you change your mental picture of him to look like this:


It certainly helped me.
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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
04 Aug 2020, 14:11
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04 Aug 2020, 14:11#37

ha, ha. The pseudo- intellect that challenges mainstream reality, our very own Dumb Plum. 
If anything, he does provide good entertainment to laugh at. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Aug 2020, 16:06
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04 Aug 2020, 16:06#38

Go on Shark

I'm waiting for you to explain the government conspiracy to me.

Like how the Pentagon have coluded with navy pilots, government and the media to concoct the story that has emerged.

 


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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
04 Aug 2020, 16:32
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04 Aug 2020, 16:32#39
Bum Plum read the text above that explains why people want to believe in conspiracies.Since you have been on this board you have been promoting alien conspiracies. You want to believe this, so you filter information to support your fictional reality.
Why did the Pentagon not write this article themselves- and publish it on their own website? Why do they not have known people from the Pentagon talking about it on tv? This would be big news, the biggest ever in the search for extraterrestrial life. 
Simple because it is bullshit. 
Oh, by the way, we found a vehicle not made on earth the other day. 
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Aug 2020, 20:29
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04 Aug 2020, 20:29#40

"Why did the Pentagon not write this article themselves- and publish it on their own website? Why do they not have known people from the Pentagon talking about it on tv."

The Pentagon have made statements directly regarding this topic...On numerous occasions over the last couple of years.

Ah, but I see, if they write an article it'll be more believable. Are you actually serious?

This shows that you actually don't know what's been going on Vrottie.

I'm telling you that a story has been emerging since 2017.

In the absence of a) ufos or b) government deception/conspiracy, it is up to you to explain how this story has come about.

I'm all ears. 

Let's hear your option C.

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