"Good times create weak men.
And weak men create hard times."
I can think of one world leader who had a spoiled and pampered upbringing, became the weakest US president of all time and is busy creating hard times ahead.
You're not actually going to respond to the points I made are you.
It just comes across as you just picking laziness and wokeness as the reasons to bash a European company that is struggling because it suits you ideology. The game industry globally is going through really though time over the last few years, excess demand for video gaming during Covid lead to developers and publishers expanding staff numbers that are no longer needed as that demand falls back to normal levels, there is lower console sales, A.I memory demand driving up prices of video game hardware, higher development costs, longer development cycles and the larger companies chasing the golden goose of the live service games forever games that will last for decades but are ultimately chasing the same number fixed number of players who play those forever games and are finding there just isn't the room for more than two or three of them on the market. But in chasing that cash cow we ended up with loads of great studio's forced to try to make those types of games that they ill-suited too make and when they inevitably fail, the parent companies like Microsoft shutter them despite being the ones who mandated they make those games. How many studios has Microsoft shuttered in the last few years 3-4?, how many more of their studies have had significant staff layoffs 10-12. All the while it's Xbox brand is declining in market share.
"Hard times create strong men.
Strong men create good times.
Good times create weak men.
And weak men create hard times."
And we're seeing that play out in Europe right now.
That's kinda of nothing saying. It effectively just says everything is a loop. Good times create bad times which create good times which create bad times ad infinitum.
've been hearing doom mongering about Europe since the 90's. It's getting old at this point
Well it might have been a bit premature in the 1990s, but since the financial crisis Europe has been in trouble. Britain dropped from the fourth ranked economy to the sixth….France from the fifth to the seventh.
Here’s the stunner, total growth adjusted for inflation since the financial crisis:
A well-documented comparison:
?? This is the key divergence period (post–financial crisis
ThatChat comparison is in real GDP, inflation adjusted, which could have a slight effect on the numbers…but not the trend. The European financial crisis had an effect….but the biggest difference is European population was almost flat since 2000 and the US grew by 20%.
They both had similar immigration benefits over the period. But in the US that was matched by a similar existing population growth. In Europe the existing population has actually gone negative.
Is it a testosterone issue one wonders.
It’s concerning to see the old world dropping so far behind, but honestly I don’t think there is anyway to reverse the trends. More rules from Brussels will solve nothing. While Europe has been agonizing over social issues, Asia and the USA have been building the 21st Century economy.
"You're not actually going to respond to the points I made are you."
No, I'm not.
I don't have the time or the energy to get dragged down into why every Ubisoft game fails and results in Europe's biggest game publisher dunking 96% in market cap.
You can blame various things for each failure but in the end the common factor is the culture of the company. A culture that got woke and went broke.
Disney had the balls to turn the bus around, I doubt Ubisoft will.
The Tech sector has gone wrong for the EU. If the EU had its own Tech Sector, the GDP growth rate between the US and the EU would be closer.
The UK was hit hard by the 2009 Financial crash that was caused by America. However, it exposed that the UK was too dependent on one sector.
I’m putting it down to testosterone.
Europe is toast. Decades of dismissing their own best interests to align with the US' best interests have slowly and surely destroyed European countries.
Even liberals on this board are now forced to admit.
Too late and too many obstacles like multiple languages and national governments to overcome.
Remember, peeps, the official language of liberals' servants is well, that migrants are threatening each european country's social fabric as they can not assimilate.
Yet it is conceded that the intrinsic cultural diversity between european countries is a weakness. Funny when you think that most of the migrants are likely to speak globlish, more likely than a very large number of european citizens.
There only is one big replacement: european populations by white people. White people speak no european language, they speak anglo american. White people do not believe in christ, they are judeo-christian and more.
Big replacement in progress.
No, I'm not.
I don't have the time or the energy to get dragged down into why every Ubisoft game fails and results in Europe's biggest game publisher dunking 96% in market cap.
I didn't ask you too. I asked you to provide any evidence that Ubisoft's share value decline is due to European laziness or wokeness.
I also cited a clear example of a game that Ubisoft made that was strongly criticized online before it's release as being woke that turned out to be a commercial success.
In the past I was also able to give another example of a game you described as woke Cyberpunk 2077 (also a European developed game) that a was major commercial success.
If going woke causes you to go broke, then how do you account for those successes.
You can blame various things for each failure but in the end the common factor is the culture of the company. A culture that got woke and went broke.
This is you going, I have an opinion that I can't back up and I'm just going stick my hands in my ears and go la-la-la-la...I can't hear you if anyone challenges me on it. As I said it's an ideology thing, you want to believe wokeness is to blame so that's what your going believe regardless of facts or evidence.
Disney had the balls to turn the bus around, I doubt Ubisoft will.
Ah yes Disney, you're clearly invested in this whole culture wars thing.
LOL Yes, I'm not going to argue the obvious with you.
Then I asked chat;
Provide me a brief summary of the development and marketing cost of Assassins Creed Shadows.
Response;
Cost
Revenue / Sales
Bottom line
You called it a commercial success. So perhaps you need to provide the evidence as to how you got to that conclusion.
Show me the actual figures.
Not that I really care because I did read the articles about the game at the time and it was clearly historical revisionism aimed at appeasing the woke.
I must admit that I find it hilarious how desperate you are to protect the wokies and their failed ideas.
You're here trying to put lipstick on a pig that has lost 96% of its market capital. Talking about how commercially successful their titles are...meanwhile they're having to gut studios and layoff staff like nobody's business.
I'm actually laughing as I type this.
Anger says he doesn’t own stocks…why would he be good at analyzing stocks? It seems unlikely. I’m trying not to laugh.
He stopped buy stocks after he invested in Rainbow Flags Inc whose target demographic were bikers.
They tried guilting the bikers into buying those flags but them boys just had too many tattoos of skulls and dragons.
You called it a commercial success. So perhaps you need to provide the evidence as to how you got to that conclusion.
Show me the actual figures.
From the wikipedia page for Assassins Creed Shadows
According to Ubisoft's fiscal report for its 2025 fiscal year, ending March 31, 2025, Assassin's Creed Shadows has outperformed Assassin's Creed Odyssey in consumer spending to date and achieved the second-highest day-one sales revenue in the history of the franchise, ranking only behind Assassin's Creed Valhalla.
On its half-year 2026 report ending September 30, 2025, Ubisoft reported that Shadows was "overperforming"
According to Ubisoft's mid-2025 financial results, Shadows surpassed the 5 million player mark by July 2025 and performed in line with expectations.
How I don't know about you but I don't believe companies set expectations to lose money or just to break even.
Ubisofts latest financial report from February this year.
It doesn't specifically mention Assassins Creed Shadows but it does described the Assassins Creed brand as over performing. It's unlikely this would be the case if the latest title in the series was underperforming.
Furthermore we can also see from Steam's most played list, Assassins Creed Shadows achieved the highest ever number of peak players recorded by any title in the Assassins Creed Franchise.
Ubisoft didn't actually release sales figures, but from the information out there it's very hard to argue the game wasn't successful.
Not that I really care because I did read the articles about the game at the time and it was clearly historical revisionism aimed at appeasing the woke.
I must admit that I find it hilarious how desperate you are to protect the wokies and their failed ideas.
No it was just fake outrage from people invested in culture wars. As I said the Japanese themselves really didn't care about the female and black lead characters.
I noticed you didn't reply to me about Cyberpunk 2077. Tell me did those publications you read, also call Cyberpunk 2077 woke as well. Because I do recall you labelling that as woke. It went on to sell a whopping 35 million copies.
You're here trying to put lipstick on a pig that has lost 96% of its market capital. Talking about how commercially successful their titles are...meanwhile they're having to gut studios and layoff staff like nobody's business.
I'm not putting lipstick on anything. I'm simply challenging you to back up your claim that Ubisoft's share value declined because they are either lazy Europeans or because they are woke.
If go woke, go broke is a real thing how do you explain numerous titles like Cyberpunk 2077, Baldur's Gate 3, the last of God of War games that were labelled as woke yet sold huge numbers?
Yes Ubisoft are having to make cuts and lay off stay, but so are other numerous others studios and publishers as I mentioned for a myriad of well publicized reasons.
I'm actually laughing as I type this.
That isn't an argument.
You claim Ubisoft are typical of Europe, citing effective laziness and wokeness as problems yet you can't back it up in anyway other that repeating something we don't disagree on that Ubisofts share value is down. You ignored the rest of the European game industry which is actually undergoing growth, ignored global issues with the game industry that's hit publishers and developers world wide very hard and you ignore or dismiss the articles that cite problems specific to Ubisoft. You also wasted time trying to argue with the assistance of A.I that Asia has overtaken Europe when it comes to publishing games to indicate some sort of European decline in the industry which is an ignorance of the reality that Asia has always dominated the games publishing industry, something anyone with the slightly familiarity with the gaming industry would know as common knowledge.
Go woke go broke is a catchy phrase, but it simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
I'm still not seeing the figures that specifically detail a commercial success.
Flop<unviable<break even<viable<commercial success
You made the claim, now show me the numbers.
Perhaps you'll get where I'm going with this. Perhaps not.