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Trump agrees to the 2 week cease fire

Started by Mozart39 REPLIES417 VIEWS· 08 Apr 2026, 00:40
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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
08 Apr 2026, 13:43#21

What on earth has the price that China pays for oil got to do with the Iran conflict?


Are you saying all of this was to make China pay more for oil?


Is that what you're saying, Draad?


And who doesn't recognise that the price of oil will come down when the conflict is over? How is this news or any kind of prediction? The price will go back to a similar price it was before this disastrous war. Everyone knows that. Is that your "win"? Huh? That the price will recover to it's original value?


Just by the way, Draad, while you're at it, you never answered my question about what it was you were describing as "theater". Still waiting.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
08 Apr 2026, 15:17#22

Everything Trump does is theater...a new episode of The Apprentice every day...are you not entertained?


And you can't separate Iranian oil from the Iranian regime...and BRICKS is part of that problem ..same for Russia in Ukraine...the oil is in the middle of it all.

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
08 Apr 2026, 15:24#23

Iran will certainly get a nuke now. I don't want a nuclear armed Iran - but if I was an Iranian I would now want a nuclear bomb.


The Obama deal was gold dust. Now we have a very angry Iran that is certainly going to get nukes.



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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
08 Apr 2026, 15:45#24

The Obama deal wasn't actually a deal...it was a mirage.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
08 Apr 2026, 15:48#25

". . . are you not entertained?"


No. Movies are entertaining. TV is entertaining. Music is entertaining. Sport is entertaining.


Buildings and infrastructure being bombed and people dying is not entertaining. Not to me anyway.


The price of oil returning to the same kind of levels as it was before Operation Epic Fail is not a win. It wouldn't have ballooned in the first place if it wasn't for your bungling hero and when it was sky high it created a lot of hardship for a lot of people.


Tell me something significant that Bozo has achieved in this war that makes it all worthwhile. I've listed a lot of negatives, let's hear the positives now. The floor is yours.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
08 Apr 2026, 20:25#26

"Buildings and infrastructure being bombed and people dying is not entertaining. Not to me anyway."


Way less people have died than during the protests earlier this year ...the regime is actually too busy to kill their own citizens ATM...war more economical on lives than normal conditions...who would have thought that....and no buildings or infrastructure targets were deliberately targeted...only if there was some or other military objectives achieved by doing so.


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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
08 Apr 2026, 20:26#27

"The price of oil returning to the same kind of levels as it was before Operation Epic Fail is not a win."


It will go significantly lower.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
08 Apr 2026, 20:28#28

I don't find Iranians killing Iranians entertaining either. What is your point?

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
08 Apr 2026, 20:30#29

"It will go significantly lower."


What are you basing that on? But even if you're right, you're effectively saying that as long as someone is making a profit it's all okay then?


That's what it sounds like you're saying.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
08 Apr 2026, 20:30#30

Tell me something significant that Bozo has achieved in this war that makes it all worthwhile.


Iran leadership significantly thinned out and weakened...the ones remaining will think twice, they might be next...air defence all but destroyed ...fleet destroyed, Air Force destroyed...etc...watch how society in Iran changes over the coarse of this year...

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
08 Apr 2026, 20:32#31

"What are you basing that on? But even if you're right, you're effectively saying that as long as someone is making a profit it's all okay then?"


Logic....It's rather about reducing oil profits of Russia and Iran.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
08 Apr 2026, 20:33#32

But you are saying it's all about profits, right?

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
08 Apr 2026, 20:39#33

"Iran leadership significantly thinned out and weakened...the ones remaining will think twice, they might be next.."


The old, feeble leader who didn't want nukes is dead. He's been replaced by his son who wants nothing more than nukes. That's a win?


".. . . air defence all but destroyed ...fleet destroyed, Air Force destroyed...etc...watch how society in Iran changes over the coarse of this year..."


If the air defences are destroyed, how did they bring down two planes? With slingshots? Likewise if the fleet was destroyed, what are they escorting ships through the Straits with? Rubber ducks?

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
08 Apr 2026, 20:51#34

Love of the Mullahs….it’s now part of being a card carrying TDS member. Two days ago these camel jockeys were saying they wouldn’t negotiate, but they changed their minds because they are winning


ROFL.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
08 Apr 2026, 20:53#35

Oh damn I missed that…Al Jazeera says the US is losing. That must be the real scoop, they aren’t biased.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
08 Apr 2026, 21:54#36

"The old, feeble leader who didn't want nukes is dead. He's been replaced by his son who wants nothing more than nukes. That's a win?"


Horse manure...you believe what you are told ..apply some logic and figure things out for yourself... it's not that difficult.

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TheTraditionalist
Pro4,003 posts
08 Apr 2026, 22:27#37

Two days ago these camel jockeys were saying they wouldn’t negotiate, but they changed their minds because they are winning



It is so wrong. In this story, Iran has been acted rationally. A large part of the world sees Israel and the US as the responsible for this crisis. Iran of course will look for normalisation of international relations. And when the negotiation fails, the US and Israel will be considered responsible for the failure.

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TheTraditionalist
Pro4,003 posts
08 Apr 2026, 22:29#38

.watch how society in Iran changes over the coarse of this year...



There is no framework, there is nothing. Of course, the iranian society will change.


It is the same card played over and over again. Same card was played for the tariffs for example. Wait six months and see what happens etc


It is worthless. It is empty.

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The Obama deal was working - and now the Trump deal allows Iran to collect 2 million per boat that travels through the Straits.


Tour statements are basically based on something with no reality and supportrd by evidence,


Gorst fo al the Obama Deal a sneve approved b Con g ress as was required. So the Obama deal was agreed on in 2014. It wdentr to Congreess a number of times - but the evidence indicated that the Ayatollah Regime by=passed the agreement and instead o allwing inspction -they moved e facilities to what they called army bases where inspections was not allowed,


Evidence provided to Congress in 2016 inmdicated that Iran doubled its enriched uranium in two years. Iran did not bother about any action from Obama or B iden - they ah d them by their shorts, INsa ax the loot is concerned, related to frozxen $400 million the Shah Government paid the USA fr fighter jetsm The planes wer not delivered/ As part of the Agreement Obama decided to pay back to Iran $1,8 billion dollars, Obame made sure the $1,8 billion was semd to Iran by plane, However in 2022 the Iran Foreign Minister in 2023 sad Irn ny received $1,342 billion. What happemed to the difference between $1,8 billion and $1,342 billion CORRUPTIIN took ensure as long a sBiden


In 2018 knowing what was happening and passed a Law that froze all dollas paid to Iran for purchase og oil, Illeg ally Boden or the Autopen infroze $480 billion - which Iran used to upgrade their research facilities. The money wa not used to help he empoverished people of Iran - but to -


  1. enhanceent of the Uranium enrichment program; and
  2. to cover funing o ci vil was nd terrorism worldwide,



So have it your way - but real evidence that happened since 2014 indicates that the Ayatollah plyed pin g pong withe Obama and herewaas NOTHING Obama could do about ittis to help Iran - which means the USA cannt act ag inst the Irn regime,


So live in your own dreamworld .



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