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Trump applauds the boycott of iconic American made motorcycles

Started by Brycy10 REPLIES973 VIEWS· 12 Aug 2018, 23:59
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
12 Aug 2018, 23:59
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12 Aug 2018, 23:59#1

...How fickle are some of these American bikers...talking about dumping their agricultural equipment i.e their Harleys for Japanese bikes, - especially disturbing to some after Pearl Harbour....tens of hundreds of American victims of the Pearl Harbour attack will be rolling in their watery graves...whatever happened to " i'd rather my sister worked in a whorehouse than my brother ro de a Honda" attitude...


...Only be helping America's competition the Japs and the European motorcycle companies like Ducati and BMW anyway...i can understand why people might want to buy a real motorcycle that's actually been engineered in Europe as opposed to one mass produced in Japan ....but boycotting an iconic American brand because they choose to make a profit over losses???  I always thought you went into business to make a profit not to make friends, that's the whole idea of the enterprise..


...Let's not forget also with all Trumps pro American rhetoric we know at least 12 countries where Trumps products have been manufactured ( China , the Netherlands, Mexico, India, Turkey , Slovenia, Honduras, Germany, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Vietnam and South Korea)...Trump has a long history of outsourcing a variety of his products...


But Old Bone spurs the draft dodger wants Harley Davidson to be patriotic...irony much....



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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
13 Aug 2018, 07:33
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13 Aug 2018, 07:33#2

Who the hell would want a crappy harley apart from some fat middle aged accountant going through a midlife crisis.

Is it compulsory to be a fat greying/bald knob to buy one?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Aug 2018, 07:59
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13 Aug 2018, 07:59#3
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Aug 2018, 08:09
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13 Aug 2018, 08:09#4

I'm not too lean and not an accountant....greying...slightly...bald...nope. I'll get around to buying a 1200 Iron one of these days. Not too keen on the big cruisers, but most of the sportsters are nice bikes. I like Jap and Italian bikes too, but I'm not a BMW bike fan.

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
13 Aug 2018, 10:33
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13 Aug 2018, 10:33#5

Don't get me started on Harley Davidson. It is the stupidest motorcycle you can buy. They are overpriced, slow, and the technology is simply stone aged. The equivalent Jap or even British cruisers are faster, have better brakes, better reliability, better handling, better fuel consumption...basically, they are just better in every way. The average Harley rider is not actually a bike enthusiast, but someone who finally has enough money to buy a bike, and because they know absolutely nothing about bikes, and they've heard the name Harley, that's what they buy. There are a few purists out there that buy them because they like the classic appeal, but the vast majority are motorcycling noobs. Just a thought, Harley's originally built their name because they were the fastest bikes around at the time. Unfortunately, they are still using that same 100+ year old technology today, and the gullible "accountants" are still falling for the bullshit.


The real bike summary

Japanese: Good build quality, Price, Relaibility, performance, slightly boring.

Italian: Exotic, beautiful (As long as you don't look too closely), fast on the track, uncomfortable on the road, poor build quality...did I mention beautiful? 

German: Precise, efficient, reliable, good quality, a bit expensive, good overall

American: Loud, poor quality, technological dinosaur, Huge fan base..but for no particular reason.

Chineese: Low end, cheap crap.

Indian: Low end, slightly less crap than Chinese.

British: Not bad, lots of history, but never quite as good as the Japanese, German and Italian competition. 

Austria: Semi-Exotic, slightly different, a good alternative to the norm, a little expensive.    


On reading my bike summary, you can just basically use the same to describe the various countries cars as well.   

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Aug 2018, 11:44
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13 Aug 2018, 11:44#6
Six honest-to-goodness, logical reasons to ride a Harley-Davidson

For every person on a Harley-Davidson, there's another who will ask, "Why do you like that thing? It's old, it leaks oil, it makes no power, the brakes are terrible and it's a grandpa bike."

You don’t have to think like a cult member to love your Harley-Davidson. There are some concrete reasons we like these old sleds. Reasons that are logical and intellectually honest. Like any machine, a Harley can be a real treat to own, if it’s the right bike for the task you have in mind. Here are some of my reasons for keeping one (or several) of these old dinosaurs in the stable.

The upside of being a heavyweight

Anyone who’s done some high-speed touring knows how badly light bikes can beat you up or get blown around on the road. Harleys tend to be heavy motorcycles. This imposes a performance penalty in terms of how fast they hustle, but what they lack in athleticism is usually forgiven because of what is gained in their high-speed manners. The greater rake angles and longer wheelbases enhance stability. Porky won’t win you a Superbike race, but it ain’t bad for crossing the country

There’s some truth in all of those criticisms. Plus, like brands such as Apple or Campagnolo, Harley-Davidson has fans who can be loyal to the point of looking like cult members, and I admit that rabid passion can be a little grating. Saying “there’s nothing like a Harley” or, worse yet, “If I have to explain, you wouldn’t understand,” are not very satisfying answers to questions about why we love our Harleys. Saying “you wouldn’t understand” implies, as Fearless Editor Lance points out, that the speaker is too inarticulate to explain himself and also thinks the interrogator is too stupid to comprehend an explanation. Great! A T-shirt slogan that insults both parties.

Couple that heavy bike with a V-twin motor, and you have a machine that can make touring a real blue-eyed pleasure. Oh, sure, Harley Big Twins are asthmatic, wheezy old things. My Blockheads only pump out somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 horsies. But they have stump-pulling torque. When I’m out there examining the countryside, the last thing I want is to be stirring the gearbox. The copious torque lets me stay in top gear and simply roll on the throttle without even thinking about gear or speed.

You can make a Harley last as long as you want

Sure, they leak. Until recently, they were designed to, in some form or fashion. But the engines are very hardy, especially considering their lack of liquid cooling. Up through the Blockhead, the engines were almost infinitely rebuildable. Just look at former Wisconsin State Sen. Dave Zien’s 1991 FXRT on display at the Sturgis Motorcycle Museum with 1 million miles on it. While the current Twin Cam is less user-serviceable, it has proven to be a remarkably long-lived motor, if some attention is given to a few key areas

You can get help making your Harley last

Harley-Davidson dealers are everywhere. It’s pretty damn hard to get to a place where you are unable to get parts or service from a Harley dealer, whether stateside or abroad. If you burn up your Evo or Twin Cam engine, you can send it back to the factory to be rebuilt. I can’t really think of another make (that’s still in business) that does something similar. Plus, I’ve seen some dealers go to great lengths for customers in terms of service and repair, especially for stranded bikers. When I am on the road and have to go to a dealer for parts for my old Shovels, they often have the parts on the shelf. If they don’t, almost always I get someone offering to get them for me — sometimes later the same day from a nearby dealer! Parts are simple to find because Harley has spent a century refining its bikes, not tearing up designs and starting with clean sheets of paper. I’ve interchanged parts between Shovelheads, Blockheads and even Panheads. The wider applications also mean parts are cheaper. Again, one of the criticisms aimed at Harleys — that they’re outdated — is an advantage, seen in another light.

And its not just H-D dealers

The Harley Big Twin is the small-block Chevy of the bike world. No matter what you want to build, someone has done it, and the parts are available. It is possible to build a complete Harley clone without a single part from The Mothership. People do it all the time. Plus, there’s a whole snotload of indie repair shops and custom builders out there who know how to work on them or work exclusively on Harleys. It may not matter, though, because…


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Aug 2018, 11:47
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13 Aug 2018, 11:47#7
  • Steve • 4 years ago

    I don't have a problem with Harleys as much as the "cult" as you pointed out. People that post on social media refer to their motorcycle as that, unless it's a Harley, then they have to tell everyone they ride a Harley not a motorcycle, like it's an an exclusive club or something. Then there is the noise, my word when you are trying to talk with someone and one or more Harley's go by, you have to stop and wait for them to pass before you can continue your conversation.
    When people stop thinking you're only "cool" when you ride a Harley then I will consider owning one. Until then I'm not joining the cult.

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      • harley wylie  Steve • 4 years ago

        Actually, some of us that ride Harley's feel the same way about those personality types. I've been riding (legally) since 1970. owned japanese and british bikes but like Harley's for the reasons listed in this article (plus some others); and having a background as a machinist/aircraft machinist that has learned to do my own mechanical work it is another form of therapy - the design, assembly and repair/rebuild is simple and logical. Now there are too many instant bikers riding Evo's or Twinkies (or god-awful looking and expensive "custom choppers" that look down on anything and everything else. Me, I'm ok with whatever someone else rides, they are all fun and all serve some worthwhile purpose on the road.

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          • Ted Larson  harley wylie • 3 years ago

            I like you better already! It really isn't about what we ride but rather that we ride at all. Keep the shiny side up and the greasy side down and ride safe.

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      Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
      13 Aug 2018, 11:51
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      13 Aug 2018, 11:51#8

      Don't have a bike anymore but would go for a nice comfortable tourer like a Harley or BMW. They are quite fast enough and very reliable.


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      DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
      13 Aug 2018, 18:05
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      13 Aug 2018, 18:05#9

      Shucks Beenz, what did you do to this thresd's format?

      Yes Beenz, I won't mind a Harley either. Cut your nose to spite your face stuff.

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      Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
      13 Aug 2018, 20:10
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      13 Aug 2018, 20:10#10
      Beeno's unprecedented levels of stupidity and incompetence have destroyed this thread.

      Seriously, how stupid must one be that you can't even post a simple comment on a message board without screwing everything up?
      The mind boggles.
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      BrycyPro4,671 posts
      14 Aug 2018, 18:16
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      14 Aug 2018, 18:16#11


      PRO-TRUMP T-SHIRTS TOO EXPENSIVE TO MAKE IN U.S., SO WE GET THEM MADE IN HAITI, BIKERS FOR TRUMP FOUNDER SAYShttps://www.newsweek.com/pro-trump-t-shirts-too-expensive-make-us-so-we-get-them-made-haiti-bikers-1069862


      ...this is funny shit.....someone needs to explain to the Bikers for Trump how buy American works.....the hypocrisy will be completely lost on them no doubt lacking the courage of their own convictions...

      . ..it's America first unless it's inconvenient and they can use foreign slave labour by the looks of it....and they want to boycott Harley Davidson for doing the same thing....how dopey can you get...


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