Healthy as can be and still able to count and understand numbers that's me.
The trouble you have is that you are unable to sort out BS for reality.
No wonder you are in the UK.
Healthy as can be and still able to count and understand numbers that's me.
The trouble you have is that you are unable to sort out BS for reality.
No wonder you are in the UK.
"Farter, the only poster here that almost died from Covid, is now giving board recommendations..."
Snarkhole, the poster so scared of dying, he's afraid to live.
Well, hopefully, this is the last significant wave of Covid.
If new strains continue to get weaker, most people will have been infected from Omicron, as well as vaccinated which may hopefully make Covid more like a cold.
I actually know someone who still has long Covid, from before vaccines were available.
Deaths are not the only consequence of Covid.
There are much worse things than covid...it's being hyped out of proportion...almost as if the counter meusures are doing more damage than the actual disease...there's no ballance.
Professor Sir David Spiegelhalter, a Cambridge University statistician and government adviser, said the UK's daily COVID cases could be closer to 500,000 due to an overstretched testing regime and reinfections not being counted in data.
He told the BBC: "It looks like we are going to have a huge wave of cases and that is going to cause big disruption, in hospitals of course and other services, but in terms of translating to the very serious outcomes, I think we can be fairly optimistic.
The fact is that there is a difference that SB cannot understand and he is at best been a brainwashed idiot. In SA the medical field is not influenced by the big pharma companies that benefit massively from the present pandemic and the fools like Faucci get his instructions from that Industry and then force it onto the clueless Government. It should rather be advisable that a money trail investigation should be undertaken to determine which politicians and public offials benefit from the pandemic.
The other norm is that there has been $100 billion fleeced from Government grants by politicos both on State and local level. That involved 900 investigations being undertaken at this stage.
In any event SB is a lunatic anyway - the fact that the Omricon variant was identified first in SA does not mean the variant originated in SA. The variant struck many countries all over the world and not only in South Africa. The Delta variant started in India and Brazil and SA got hit later than in other countries. Remember the IPL last year. SA players and spectators of Indian origin - and there are a couple of millions of those in the country - caused the rise of the figure in SA - same as what happened in the rest of the world.
Nice quote from a political idiot like Murphy. He is so grossly incompetent - he nearly lost the Governor election last month and only won after a total count in the most highly populated country was announced with 100% reporting - 40 000 votes not counted was "discovered" in that county. At the height of the present pandemic wave he was holidaying in San Salvador - would rather not quote him on anything.
Why don't you start listening to real news agencies and forget the lies spread by the fake agencies tou follow as gospel? .
Maaik...Beta strain was also discovered in SA...we've got good people working in virology...there's probably been much more strains that has gone undiscovered in other parts of the world.
Africa is now the breeding ground for new variants.
Most continents have now vaccinated a large percentage of the population, which will help reduce mutation due to fewer people getting severely sick.
Omicron like Beta is from South Africa. Whoever smelt it dealt it.
If South Africa never created these variants, it is like saying that Covid never originated in China.
It is obvious where a virus originated because those are the first people to get sick and have a new wave.
The only way Africa will get a large portion of their population vaccinated is if:
1. The West pays for the vaccine.
2. The West does the vaccine roll out in Africa.
If the vaccine is just given to Africa for free, their politicians will steal the vaccine and sell it on the black market.
SB
The whole story is a sham. Vaccination does NOT prevent people from getting infected by the virus and does NOT prevent them spreading the virus.
Scientific evaluation blame vaccines for the evolvement of new variants - not the unvaccinated. The virus are evolving new variants to get around he vaccines. The media is quiet about it in the UK and USA. Why are the SA Government and statistics locally indicate that the variant wave is abating with a host of other info indicating that the Comiron variant is weak with lesser hospitalization - why in the USA, the UK and EU countries the variant has more serious consequences from a hospitalization perspective than in the more advanced countries.
There is one other aspects listed in an article above - and that is the number of deaths above the norm in SA. There is one aspect which should be borne in mind. When the virus struck SA - coming from Europe and China - the SA Government put the strictest lockdown imaginable in place. The result was a total disruption of food supplies and the fact that the poor already suffer from diet deficiency and food shortages caused major starvation - especially in the trial areas. That could account for tens of thousands of deaths through starvation. The stress caused also increased domestic violence and hospitals and medical services struggled to cope with that as well.
One of the problems with reporting of deaths were that originally reporting in SA inidcated the morbidities suffered from - but that stopped later on. So was the virus deaths really the result of the virus or was the real cause the morbidities? In Africa more so - but also in SA food supply is essential to stop starvation. and that went AWOL You musty also bear in mind that thousands of people from Southern Africa buy essentials like food and other things from shops on the borders - but the orders were closed and travel within provinces in SA prohibited and that had ghastly consequences as well.
The Government this time around did not put travel restrictions in place for obvious reasons. It is totally unrealistic and does not prevent infection. Ramaphosa realized that and when Biden put travel restrictions on SA told him it was foolish - he must get credit for that and afterwards refused to participate in a tele-conference amongst democratic countries Biden tried to hold. Why discuss anything woth an idi0ot like Biden?
There were near to 2 million illegals flooding into the USA from 110 countries world wide and his importing of the virus was unlimited. So the USA has their own problems caused by idiocy.
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Jan 02, 2022, 15:23Scientific evaluation blame vaccines for the evolvement of new variants - not the unvaccinated. The virus are evolving new variants to get around he vaccines.
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A conspiracist cant think logically, let alone scientifically.
The conspiracists need to stop trying to bend science to support their viewpoints. (State of disillusionment).
No sensible person claims that variants are created intentionally by man.
Starting to get into Beeno territory... Surplus to the requirements of mankind.
"Most continents have now vaccinated a large percentage of the population, which will help reduce mutation due to fewer people getting severely sick. "
Absolute BS...The UK is almost fully vaccinated and they have exponentially more cases than a poorly vaccinated South Africa...viruses mutate untill they become harmless...the Omicron variant is a good thing...more viral, but way less harmfull, what you would want to happen to get rid of a pandemic...why are you even complaining?
All the high tech helps softening the blow, but in the end Nature takes care of things...as illustrated by Covid in Africa. S top living in fear of life.
A country like Australia might not think Omicron is great.
They have done well before vaccinations and were able to vaccinate most of the population.
Now with Omicron, they have lost control.
People are also getting infected more than once, so Omicron is not great. People have been infected and vaccinated, and still, get Omicron.
For countries most infected by Covid, Omicron may be good (Like South Africa).
Not many countries have over 70% of their population infected by Covid. The more people that get infected, the more chance for mutation. Vaccines make people less sick from Covid, reducing chances for mutation.
SB
Where did you get that 70% infection BS from? Secondly Scientists have expressed serious concern about mutation is a result of the virus reacting to the vaccines causing the variants. Viruses if meeting no resistance will not change and those meeting resistance will try and get around it.
But science in the USA and UK is controlled by politics and truths like the above will be banned. Your assumption is a new in medical science and should be recorded as a fact to be avoided at all costs.
Maaik...most scientists and doctors in South Africa think that 60 to 70% of South Africans have already been exposed to covid and have natural immunity...I can't think why the rest of the world would by significantly different though...except for China, Aus, NZ and a few other places able to properly curb the spread.
The death rate has gone down significantly in the UK. Today 157,758 new coronavirus cases with just 42 virus-related deaths were reported. It might be time to start listing daily deaths by vaccinated and unvaccinated. If 90% of the deaths are unvaccinated, suddenly it is around 5 deaths today of vaccinated people. This is not much different than flu...
" This is not much different than flu."
Hallelujah!!!
"If 90% of the deaths are unvaccinated, "
Big if...but what about the non covid deaths amongst the vaccinated...and the increase in still born babies? You know that's not reported much because it's difficult to prove and some opinions are not allowed to be voiced at all.
The USA reported over 1 million infections yesterday.
Even in states with low vaccination rates, the death rate should be lower with Omicron.
The States has 4.7 times the population of The Kingdom...way to go still.
London may have already peaked, as cases might be starting to down in the city.
220,000 recorded cases today. However, testing kits ran out over the festive season as well, so not all cases were counted. Estimates are that it is over 500,000 cases per day.
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Omnicron is not flu....I have had some bad flu's over the years....in fact I don't take flu jabs anymore.
The fatigue with Omnicron is totally different from flu fatigue.
I did have the vaccination but Delta does not protect against Omnicrom.One apparently has
T cell protection which would be protection against worse infection.
I watched how Kaizer Chiefs had 30 players and staff immobilized,then Munster 15 players stranded in Cape Town....this stuff is like fire.
I know of a few people who has it now. I was probably exposed too...we'll see.
Countries in the Southern Hemisphere are at least getting hit by the highly infectious Omicron in summer, rather than winter.
The UK has got it right in winter which is the worst possible time.
We had Delta in the winter...and the Original.