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War shifts decisively in Russias favour

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
15 Jul 2023, 21:14
#81
15 Jul 2023, 21:14#81

Yes poopal, the Russians list all their planes, tanks, men ages ago according to your propoganda. 

N o one every claimed the Russian's lost all their planes, tanks and men. Nice strawman though.

Russian has taken significant equipment losses as documented here with photographic evidence for each piece of equipment lost.

A total of 11,146 pieces of military equipment the Russian's have lost including 2125 tanks.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

In addition 450 military aircraft have been lost.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/03/list-of-aircraft-losses-during-2022.html

But carry on claiming everything is go to plan for Russia.


MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
16 Jul 2023, 03:31
#82
16 Jul 2023, 03:31#82

It's simple dude.... your mercenaries are are running away because they don't have air cover. The Donbas belongs to Russia now and there are not sufficient anti-aircraft guns in that area. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jul 2023, 03:57
#83
16 Jul 2023, 03:57#83

I am not going t get into the arguments raised other than to point out the propaganda issue.   Lets be clear - both Mozart and Stav has lost the point as to Crinmea and are repeating the story hey have been told what to believe or not.

Stav missed the point entirely as to the issue of Russia.   Lets be clear - the USA wants regime change in Russia and that has been all over the media.    There has been talk in the past to subdivide Russia into 5 different countries, which would be easily manageable by the Western countries - especially when it comes to national resources.    

The problem is the USA has deteriorated badly in its stature this century.   The USA was virtually ensuring stability in the world before 2000.    It was respected as the World Supreme Power and nobody would trifle with it,   Even the USSR with its Communist Regime  played it safe.   However, after the departure of  Reagan the USA had leaders of poor quality and that included the Bushes and in particular Clinton, Obama and Biden.

Lets give some examples - 

*    Clinton was a joke as President more interested in enriching himself and always a sex-addicted idiot - not that anybody can blame him, he is married to a vicious lying bitch;

*     Mozart does not realize that there was no link between the first and second Iraq war.    The first one was justified by the actual invasion by Iraq of Kuwait - the second was based on lies about WMD.    Mozart came up with the nuclear ambitions of Iraq - but was it real?   There is no doubt that like Iran Iraq may have had such ambitions - but that was destroyed when the Israeli's bombed heir research facilities out of existence.    Anybody thinking that Iraq had WMD must be kidding - they had none.    By the way the USA under Reagan regarded Iraq as an ally of the USA when they were waging a war against Iran.

*      Obama was a freak and weak man.   When the Syrian Government used poison gas in the civil war raging in Syria Obama said the USA drew a red line when it came to usage of poison gas -  the Syrian Government laughed the threat off and used it again - with no action taken by the USA as a result.   Obama  announced the withdrawal of the  USA troops from Iraq and ISIS started there attacks even threatening Bagdad.   When that happened Obama send in USA military to train and help the ragtag Iraq army and ISIS rolled on unrestricted.   Obama restricted the use of the "instructors" he sent into Iraq from actively taking part in any offensive or defensive battles in Iraq - with ISIS laughing all the way to the bank with money they earned by occupying the oil installations in north--east Syria.    

*     Biden is a corrupt crook and all the Governments  in the World knows it,   As a result of that Biden is weak and  controlled by people like  Gates and Soros who write out policies for him and force him into applying those.    His foreign relations policy is a fart and a bad one.   The withdrawal from Afghanistan was chaotic and the turmoil in international relationships changed totally.   As to foreign relationship issues most countries after the Afghanistan withdrawal catastrophe lost respect for the USA and realized that nobody can rely on the Biden administration to honor any commitments and treaty they have with the USA.   Biden's only achievement on foreign relations was farting before royalty and terrifying a little girl when visiting Europe recently.   The man is totally defective in mind - talking of the USA joining NATO at the recent NATO meeting in Europe.

The exception was Trump - hated in Europe because they feared him and knew he would do what he said he would do.   Responsible Governments realized what is going on and did in no way trifled with the USA when he was President.   Trump made enemies in the USA because he strived for a stable world and tried to even make peace and stabilize the  Koreas through negotiation.   He was responsible for the so-called Abrahamic treaties that stabilized the ME. He forced NATO members to live up their financial commitments to NATO  by threatening to reduce the USA troops in Europe and the countries got their message large and clearly.   NATO got money at last to enlarge their defense abilities,  

The moment Trump left office the situation n the world change from stable to totally  unstable.  That is why the countries are hurrying to join BRICS - which is set to undermine the USA on a continuous basis,    Although a member of BRICS Brazil was always an ally of the USA until he present corrupt idiot in Brazil took over - it is now firmly allied to China.    So which countries are trying to join BRICS - interesting amongst them Mexico, Turkey, Egypt, the Saudi's and  another 25 countries worldwide.    Turkey has the only army of consequence in NATO - other than the  USA - and the other countries mentioned used to be staunch allies of the USA.   

So why did it happen that  the countries are lining up to join BRICS - they feel that they would safeguard their own interests by doing so.   As stated those countries feel that an alliance through BRICS will safeguard themselves and they fear that instability at present in world relationships poses a threat to them as well.

By the way Stav may be too young or may not have heard of the Cuban situation in the early 1960's.    Russia send missiles with nuclear warheads to Cuba and the USA under Kennedy took firm action.   They blockaded Cuba and forced the Russians to withdraw their missiles from Cuba.  The CIA also organized the Bay of Pigs attack on Cuba - but that turned out to be a disaster.    The question remains - if China or for that matter Russia  send Nuclear warhead missiles to Mexico once the latter becomes a BRICS member what will the USA do then?    The USA military leadership is at present more interested in promotion of the 52 different sexes some Democrats believe in and recruiting  of army personnel is now reduced to lesbians,  gays and sex-change cases while it is also race-based - thus causing a shortage of applicants.   The emphasis is not on maintenance and creation of a fighting army - and that reduces the influence of the USA worldwide.   The open-Border policy of Biden   is going to cause havoc and instability in the USA.    Remember how Al Queda sent people into the USA - easy when Clinton was in charge - and those people caused havoc on 9/11.   What will the Chinese entering through the USA  through Mexico do in future?       

Stav - another interesting point:-

 Mike some how managed to translate that into me saying Russian was going to use a nuclear bomb a destroy a nuclear plant. Where do these leaps in logic come from?  

Where did you get that idea from?   I never wrote anything abut that issue on site.   I know that there are people like the WEF who believes wars against Russia should destroy the country as it  had existed for centuries and create replacement banana republics  where they can exploit the resources of that country to enrich themselves and to impose their ideas about culture destruction in the succession states  - and they have  a substantial influence on the Biden Administration -but the WEF is not yet in full control of the USA - but that is neither here nor there.   .      

                                                   

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
16 Jul 2023, 06:33
#84
16 Jul 2023, 06:33#84

Jisl aaik, talk about going off on a tangent ........................

MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
16 Jul 2023, 07:17
#85
16 Jul 2023, 07:17#85

Yes Mike, one of the problems in the USA is this individual rights catastrophe. Sue this, sue that.

Funny how Russia is currently passing law banning transgender ops and nullifying marriages by transgender. 

Love with what God gave you is what they're saying, be happy with your lot and don't disfigure your body through demonic forces. 



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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
16 Jul 2023, 09:26
#86
16 Jul 2023, 09:26#86

I'm not going comment on the majority of Mike's latest twaddle post its not worth it, but I'm just going to respond to this.

Stav - another interesting point:-

 Mike some how managed to translate that into me saying Russian was going to use a nuclear bomb a destroy a nuclear plant. Where do these leaps in logic come from?  

Where did you get that idea from?   I never wrote anything abut that issue on site.

A direct quote of Mike from the thread on Cluster bombs going to Ukraine.

Now back to your claim of Russian arms running low and they would use nuclear bombs to attack a nuclear Power Station.

Mike you're just an incoherent mess.



MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
16 Jul 2023, 10:20
#88
16 Jul 2023, 10:20#88

That Irishman's last orders were to flush out the trenches. His tanks ran away and he's on a train back home.

The Russians withstood the Nazi's along a 1000km line 80 years ago. As soon as the Ukro's get a break through they will be flattened by Russian air power. Another winter and the Ukro's will famished. 

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SebPro2,680 posts
16 Jul 2023, 16:35
#89
16 Jul 2023, 16:35#89

Well Runt, after your tirade of lying insults, you do me a favour but everything you virtually insulted to me is the very opposite and I should take it as a complement.

You can thank Your "lucky stars" that we will never meet 'cause you would look like a jig-saw puzzle with a couple of pieces missing, especially if you insulted the dignity of my lovely Russian better half. I would literally kill you or anybody else for that.

You are completely incompetent of assessing anybodies character. You are a little nobody that spouts insults to people that are are so inaccurate. It gives you what you think power but words are cheap and cowardly and sick and nasty when not present.

You called Ceredene, when he was a brave and decent man fighting cancer (he never mentioned that whilst suffering) Cowardunce and DA, Voldemort and many others. I'd love to.con front you, if I ever came across you, I go to Arniston, I'd welcome a man to kid confrontation. The board with all your weak and shallow sychophants is the only power you ever have. There are plenty of them around today on the internet...poor little nobodies with empty lives of which leads be to conclude you are chief of them.

You wrote a whole essay on "Honesty" and part of that you said you know some of us more than your friends and family....Hahahahhaha. Don't worry there might be a few idiots here but none that can believe such bullshit.

SH
sharkbokCaptain23,198 posts
16 Jul 2023, 17:52
#90
16 Jul 2023, 17:52#90

So there you have it folks, the board's first death threat...The Russian Bot.
God is on his side, our very own David and Goliath. 

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
16 Jul 2023, 17:54
#91
16 Jul 2023, 17:54#91

Listen not to false lies but to unbiased  truth

Brian is honest and fair and has the knowledge to make common sense.

My heart goes out to those used for cannon-fodder...USA and NATO stinks to high heaven, the ordinary Ukrainian soldier is brave and competent just as the Russian soldier, same original people. Just as the ordinary German man on the ground soldier in WW2, who was not a Nazi but found himself trapped by evil idealogy.

Russians don't hate Ukrainians, true warriors never humiliate fellow warriors...evil pro Neo Nazi's have huge catalytic power of the masses...it's been fueled by Neo Cons and greedy power hungry Globalists, that care nothing for Ukrainians or anybody else...USA and NATO are just plain evil.

This war will go on and on until Ukrainian young men are decimated...this is absolute tragedy...brings out the ugliest of mankind.

https://youtu.be/10c74m3u47A

MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
16 Jul 2023, 18:17
#92
16 Jul 2023, 18:17#92
There's an "if" there stupid Blob.... You can't read.Ole Rooipiss is a self confessed troll.But you like being evil too... in fact you're really rooipiss anyway. Same piece of shit e. 
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
16 Jul 2023, 18:43
#93
16 Jul 2023, 18:43#93
"Brian is honest and fair and has the knowledge to make common sense."
Brian?
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
16 Jul 2023, 18:56
#94
16 Jul 2023, 18:56#94

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
16 Jul 2023, 18:56
#95
16 Jul 2023, 18:56#95

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
16 Jul 2023, 19:44
#96
16 Jul 2023, 19:44#96

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
17 Jul 2023, 06:51
#97
17 Jul 2023, 06:51#97
Moz, as usual offering points with out using the silly tactics that appear to have become Stavs forte of late. Moz, yea Iraq was a mistake. Ukraine is a mistake, but a different type. I remember when the West wanted in invade Iraq. There were a lot of people that called it out and said it was wrong and would cost money and lives. Their opinions didn't matter and it was turned into a narrative that if you didn't agree then you were not a patriot. Ukraine invading Russia is also a mistake. Though, not one derived from faulty data interpretation. If you asked us in the West why we consider it a mistake then we'll say things like "Ukraine has the right to be aligned with whomever they want,"...so basically a moral error on Russia's behalf. Less culpable homicide and more premeditated scumbaggery. But here's the point I'm making. Why do we let ourselves off the hook so easily? As I mentioned, nobody has or will go to prison for the Iraq war. It was an oopsie and people should just accept that when we makes mistakes that end up killing millions, we had "good" intentions and if ever anybody else does something similar we can chuck stones at them from our position on the moral higher ground. It's doesn't sit right with me when we have zero appetite to adequately address our own crimes against humanity but so quickly call out others for their's. I'm not saying that Russia, or anyone else that invaded another country for the wrong reasons, should be excused. I'm saying that we are far too biased and corrupted in our own thinking, and my feeling is that without pointing out and dealing with these biases we are perpetuating a world where these sorts i things will happen. That seems obvious to me. But apparently it's an extreme opinion.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
17 Jul 2023, 07:12
#98
17 Jul 2023, 07:12#98
"Brian is honest and fair and has the knowledge to make common sense"
Asking again, who is this Brian you spoeak of, Tit?
If you're calling him honest, fair and knowledgable then I'm guessing he's a biased liar who's very stupid . . . so maybe ou Maaik or Baboon-ou? We know ou Maaik's name isn't Brian . . .
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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
17 Jul 2023, 07:38
#99
17 Jul 2023, 07:38#99

But apparently it's an extreme opinion.

No just a transparent one.

Asking again, who is this Brian you spoeak of, Tit?

He's a guy who run's a youtube channel called the new atlus I think. He makes videos about the Ukraine war and other topics from a pro Russian and anti West/America viewpoint.

Like Ritter and McGregor his video's are all the Ukrainian's are being bleed to death, Ukrainian's are being slaughter, Ukraine has no chance.

Exactly the sort of stuff that appeals to Seb, Mike and Beeno.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
17 Jul 2023, 08:37
#100
17 Jul 2023, 08:37#100
I know what pisses you off, Stav. It's always fairly uncomfortable to assess one's own position before you judge the position of another. We prefer not to do it. I bet that no matter how many times I say it, and no matter how clear I make it, nobody reading my posts will actually ask themselves why they seem so apathetic to the damage we have to done to other countries. Nobody will question why we don't seem to care much about charging people(politicians and MIC players) with crimes. Apparently voting them out of office is punishment enough. Which is damn ironic considering how often people here lower themselves to using appeals to character in their arguments. It's adds an extra layer of hypocrisy to it all. We'll judge others in a way that we refuse to be judged. That's the first layer. Then we'll use appeals to character while completely ignoring what is very evident in our own character. Surely we can see this? And allow me to point out another thing... Apparently I'm transparent. Now, perhaps I'm putting words in your mouth but based on what you've previously said, I take it that by transparent you mean something along the lines of me not being supportive of the West and even maybe supporting Russia. What is actually the case is that I'm saying the West should be better...because my thinking is Western and my support is for Western ideas and societies. And you, again using underhanded tactics, seem to be making me out to be the opposite of that. So, I say that we can and should be better because we can make a better world and your sneakiness outputs that as me supporting Russia. It's tantamount to saying that disciplining a child, since it may incorporate strong language and place the child in situations that he is uncomfortable with, like taking away his laptop for a week, is equivalent to hating the child. Grow up. Debate like a man.
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
17 Jul 2023, 08:53
#101
17 Jul 2023, 08:53#101

"All Stav and DA want is for more blood to be shed in a land they probably have never even set foot on"

Yep, I have never set foot in Ukraine...... which is much like you never having any intelligence...

However....I can still go to Ukraine 

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SebPro2,680 posts
17 Jul 2023, 08:56
#102
17 Jul 2023, 08:56#102

An extreme opinion ...poppycock.

Judge for yourself Kangaroo Court jury.

https://youtu.be/10c74m3u47A

And no my spouse is no babuska.

She's still drop-dead beautiful and athletic and turns eyes wherever she goes. Saffa girls, let alone Pommy and NZ women cannot come close'

Educated, a degree in Space Research Engineering, and highly intelligent.

Not a toothless goffel meid from Woodstock.



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
17 Jul 2023, 09:29
#103
17 Jul 2023, 09:29#103

Tit, why do you always bring your wife into these discussions?

No-one else does it. Why do you?

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
17 Jul 2023, 09:57
#104
17 Jul 2023, 09:57#104

It's a valid question Tit.

Why do you feel the need to splash all this information about your wife all over some meaningless message board?

Also, if she's so intelligent and beautiful, why is she with a lifeless, stupid old drunkard like you? It doesn't stack up.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
17 Jul 2023, 10:12
#105
17 Jul 2023, 10:12#105

Yep, I have never set foot in Ukraine...... which is much like you never having any intelligence...

However....I can still go to Ukraine 

Burn!!!

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
17 Jul 2023, 10:46
#106
17 Jul 2023, 10:46#106

Rooipieletjie stick your head from where the sun does not shine. You a blatant liar, not one ounce of truth and a craven coward at that.

 When that revolting half caste side kick stops his ignorant slander and racialism about Russians and family, is insinuating my spouse as well, posting insulting and low taste pics and propagandised videos and you stir  up more shit...you are all a truly a very ill and mentally disturbed personality. I don't care what you say concerning me because it comes from the very pit of dark powers but it is you and your vile clique that continue this cowardly insults referring or insinuating to those sensitive issues of those that I value., like my spouse and Christ and God.

You hypocrites that scream about racialism and in the same breath continue to post ugly filthy things about Russians are of the worst kind. That the moderator sits back and does nothing is a travesty.


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
17 Jul 2023, 10:49
#107
17 Jul 2023, 10:49#107

Ummm . . . if you don't care what I say then why were you threatening to kill me if I said something about your wife . . . the person who you insist on bringing into every discussion?

Hmmm?

It's still not stacking up, Tit.

SH
sharkbokCaptain23,198 posts
17 Jul 2023, 10:58
#108
17 Jul 2023, 10:58#108
So we are meant to support Russian efforts in the war and push Russian propaganda because a board member has a wife from Russia?
You have mentioned your wife long before the Russian invasion. 

Yet, it is fine to use racist terms like revolting half-caste, as long as it has been approved by Putin sycophants.


Seb

Senior player

2445 posts

Jul 17, 2023, 10:46

 When that revolting half-caste  side kick stops his ignorant slander and racialism about Russians and family, is insinuating my spouse as well, 

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
17 Jul 2023, 11:01
#109
17 Jul 2023, 11:01#109

Of course it stacks up...there is enough hatred in the world today, try and restrain yourself from fueling it.

Both of us don't like each other, that's fair enough but I suggest it's better for all that we try to keep the peace.

Now the "insightful" Shark cuts a snark and as usual completely out of context.

Nobody is saying you have to take sides but have the self respect to look both sides.


RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
17 Jul 2023, 11:16
#110
17 Jul 2023, 11:16#110

Duck, dodge, deflect . . . man up for once you pathetic little loser and answer the question. Why do you mention your wife so often when you post here?

By doing so, you're inviting comment on her . . . and then you're threatening to kill people who insult her in any way.

Surely if you were so sensitive about what people say about your wife you wouldn't bring her up all the time. Not so?

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
17 Jul 2023, 11:40
#111
17 Jul 2023, 11:40#111

No it's you that cannot see, you cannot follow the drift.

I never said you did here on this topic.

 I was referring to the not so subtle side kick of yours that inferred that my wife was a babushka (a Russian term of an old peasant-like woman) which he did in a previous post. Then plants 2 videos on babuskas. Just poor humour, I surmise but nevertheless tasteless.

But bloody irritating.

SH
sharkbokCaptain23,198 posts
17 Jul 2023, 11:54
#112
17 Jul 2023, 11:54#112

Who is this half-cast you speak of?

Is it a board member or Zelenksy (because he is Jewish Ukrainian?)

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
17 Jul 2023, 12:02
#113
17 Jul 2023, 12:02#113

I think you're the one not getting the drift, Tit. 

Why would a beautiful, intelligent woman hook up with a pathetic loser like you?

We can all see what a cowardly, stupid and sanctimonious liar you are . . . that's not even up for debate . . . what we're not understanding is how a loser with a repugnant personality like yours could possibly attract any woman, let alone a good-looking or intelligent one.

Got it now, chump? That's what doesn't stack up.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
17 Jul 2023, 12:05
#114
17 Jul 2023, 12:05#114

Another chunk of the Kerch bridge has been taken out. The Special Military Operation still going swimmingly I see.

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SebPro2,680 posts
17 Jul 2023, 12:29
#115
17 Jul 2023, 12:29#115

I am not a pathetic loser, neither am a liar and I'm very good looking, strong and fit. I have my own business consultancy and am financially independant, my kids love me, they are all have done well, graduated with degrees., my wife loves me. I have very good friends and my relatives are close. My 2 step sons too, now in NZ, one is a top executive of Farmers Market, the other owns his own company.

Can you say the same for yourself, well according to your own confession :

"This may sound lame, but I've known some of the posters on these boards a lot longer than I've known family members, friends and work colleagues . . . and some of you know me better than a lot of people in real life . . . even if you don't know it."

The liar is obviously you.

You don't even trust yourself, poor man, a very lame and pitiful man. Bound together in self-hatred. Who got some "dutch courage" with a little help of a bottle.

It's so tragic, I cannot laugh at it anymore on second thoughts, you must be in pain.

The hypocrite that sees long distance and sees DA as Voldemort plus a host of others.

Really the audacity of it.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
17 Jul 2023, 12:33
#116
17 Jul 2023, 12:33#116
I see, so you're basically saying that whenever you post, you undergo a complete transformation and you go from being this successful good-looking family man into the cowardly, childish, ignorant, deceitful loser we regularly see on this board.
Is that what you would have us believe, Tit?
MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
17 Jul 2023, 12:37
#117
17 Jul 2023, 12:37#117

"Another chunk of the Kerch bridge has been taken out. The Special Military Operation still going swimmingly I see." - Stav

I notice you don't mention the civilians that were injured. 

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SebPro2,680 posts
17 Jul 2023, 12:49
#118
17 Jul 2023, 12:49#118

You can believe or anybody else whatever you like, neither do I care for that matter , I see the world and my surrounds clearly. Certainly don't need collective approval or any strokes.

Yes, I have faults and certainly not perfect, as I am human but can I love those close to me and my God.



ST
Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
17 Jul 2023, 12:49
#119
17 Jul 2023, 12:49#119

I notice you don't mention the civilians that were injured.

Have you brought up the Ukrainian civilians killed and injured over the course of the war?

It's unfortunate that civilians where killed on the Kerch bridge but the Russian government should never have allowed civilian holiday travel into a warzone along one of Russia's major military logistic supply lines. Its not like it wasn't know the bridge is a primary target for the Ukrainian. Better still Russia sho uld have never started this war as that would of meant no civilians being killed on either side.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
17 Jul 2023, 12:53
#120
17 Jul 2023, 12:53#120

Tit, why don't you post in your first language? I'm sure whatever language that is, we could use Google tranlate or something and understand you better than this broken and nonsensical "English" that you're trying here.

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