CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2014, 11:52#41
Sharkbok
For me the definition was clear as daylight - but you missed the essence of it. There is no way that definition entails a prediction. Sorry but if you think it entials a prediction - you are talking absolute tripe. It is the exact opposite - because it refers to an unpredictable event.
Look I definitely said the Boks were going to loose matches this year and they lost two less than i said. I have never made a secret of it neither did not deny it. Dave probably flt the same - but he did not make a prediction as assumed by you and Mozart. The word "prediction" is the problem here.
Unfortunately "whatever you want to call it" is in this case meaningless. Mozart used a precise term "prediction" - which was a deduction made by him and was inaccurate. I merely reflected on that inaccuracy.
14 Oct 2014, 12:40#42
"Look I definitely said the Boks were going to loose matches this year and they lost two less than i said."
Another cop-out, ou Maaikie . Which games did you predict that we would lose? Think carefully now.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2014, 12:45#43
Ceradyne
The Welsh test (first one) - the Aussie tests and the AB tests. Was wrong with three of those. Sorry it was three elss than I said - not two. There were no other tests where I made predictions.
14 Oct 2014, 13:18#44
Not the first Welsh test as well? Not the World XV and the Scotland test either? Just checking.
14 Oct 2014, 13:37#45
Forgetting all the other posts on this thread, an honest lawyer is like a vegetarian lion....not a reality!
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Oct 2014, 15:02#48
Game set qnd match I would say. Time for snap ster to eat humble pie!
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Oct 2014, 15:08#50
hahahahhahaha it's wonderful to have this sort of comedy to entertain us!
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2014, 15:10#51
Ceradyne
The world 15 ws not a test match and the players did not play as Springboks. Caps were not awarded for that game at all. Are you dense or what?
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Oct 2014, 15:11#52
Back full circle to Honest Mike....are you still saying Dave is honest in denying he predicted Bok losses against the Worlds and Wales?
14 Oct 2014, 15:23#53
This story again.
Moz, two or three weeks back you started a thread in which about 90% of the posters agreed that Saff had predicted a loss. Your evidence on that thread was way more convincing.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2014, 15:29#54
Mozart
Lets get this straight - did Dave gave a score for and against the Welsh - or did he is prepared to lay a bet? Nobody has evr recovered a thred in which he was specific. If he says he is prepared to lay a bet - that ipso facto is not a prediction. What was it?
You came up with a story about laying a bet - and then claimed because of that he made a prediction. If that is the case - you are wrong and I was only pointing out to you that you cannot make a deduction like that which would lend your statement legitimacy.
Was it against the World team or was it against the Welsh - you previously hammered on about the Welsh test- now it is the World `15 game? Which one was it? if you continue with your claim against the Welsh then you are on thin ground ehre unless you produce a thread where Dave actually made a prediction.
I was merely use your own words to point out an illegiitimate deduction made by you - nothing else. You then turned around and called me a liar - that really is the bottom of the rubbish pile.
Produce the threads where you said he made a prediction and rmmber where he referred to Morne Steyn. Morne only statrted in one RC test - where he buggered up so badly that he is totally out of contention now. Not that he did not try to bugger up the two tests against Argentina - he made at least one bugger-up in each when eh came off the ebnch and you said - Morne won the tests for us - what a joke.
It is no use "Asked to tell the truth that is obvious to all." is not an issue here. Based on what you said I gave the correct cversion of what really is the case - and you failed to recognoise it. Calling me a liar for that is absolute BS.
No wakke up and provide the exact contribution Dave made about the Welsh test - which was your original statement and thenit will be clear about the issue. If you have the proof provide it and I will support your contention - if you have not accept that you have taken a chance and ended up with egg all over your face.
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Oct 2014, 15:36#55
Best bale out of this lost cause Mike.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2014, 15:55#56
Beeno
I asked for proof and all Mozart gave was to call me a liar. I will not bale out as a result - you admonish me to be civilto him and a try to be so - but he was the one with the personal attacks.
What did I say to him - provide the proof and I will support youut so far there was none tha could e regarded legally as appropriate - I am still waiting and that is as far as it goes at this stage. If it is an assumption of mozart that he did may a prediction - based on something outside of the emaning of the word "prediction" - then there is no legitinacy and the whole discussion is a storm ina tea cup.
14 Oct 2014, 16:27#57
And then there is, of course, the case of the moving goal posts........... We are now down to ou Dawie not giving a score:
"Lets get this straight - did Dave gave a score for and against the Welsh - or did he is prepared to lay a bet? "
PS. As if finding your way through the crooked grammar is not enough.........
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Oct 2014, 17:19#62
Eina....another prediction....and more egg.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2014, 17:20#63
bluebok
At last something positive. Thanks - I accept the above as a prediction. So Dave is indeed wrong insofar as that aspect is concerned.
14 Oct 2014, 17:23#65
Nevermind! I am a complete doos! FFS!!
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Oct 2014, 17:28#66
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for the comedy oaks. Moz won this one hands down. Snapster for a lawyer you really were way out!BUT what an effort to get away from the truth!!! Mike really how can you imagine you could get away with all that bull.Hahahahahahahahha
Anyhow let's hope for better performances from snapster and Mike in future.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Oct 2014, 17:40#69
Which is why I said "another" prediction. What about France, last year....was Vetsak predicting and consuming f ilet de volaille.
AJArthur John
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AJArthur JohnPro1,748 posts
14 Oct 2014, 17:40#70
Sure there was corruption prior to 1994 without any doubt.
But to me it appears that the present officials have really perfected corruption way beyond anything ever thought possible.
There is an old saying that states that "all men have their price" .
This has been proven to be true in SA.
Unfortunately.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2014, 17:49#71
Blue bok
Sorry - we are back to zero proof then insofar as the Juee tests are concerned. Mozart is writing furiously and coming up with nothing as yet.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Oct 2014, 17:51#72
Have to agree with Arthur. The bit of farm land bought along the route of planned but not announced highways pales in comparison.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2014, 17:54#73
AJ
back tpo the original thread. I think the problem is that the present crowdis so blatant about it. The also klnow that they have a corruption circle and all members protect each other. They annot afford that the circle be broken - becasue then somebody might squeel and come out with the truth. Every senior politico has something to hide and it get worse all the time. The circle members steall more and more and the poor Auditor General and Public Protector are trying their ebst to keep things under control - but without much success.

sharkbok
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sharkbokCaptain23,293 posts
14 Oct 2014, 18:07#75
The moral of the story for poor Saffex is that he cant call people idiots who disagree with him - especially when he gets proven wrong repeatedly.
He predicted losses due to team selection and the coach.
Even the fans were conservative idiots for supporting the coach and team. Meyer is surely rated as an expert in rugby and could probably get just about any rugby job in the world.
Although Saffex will never learn.....He will be back in a few days as a self proclaimed rugby expert. He will know the best players to select, the best game plan, and not even the AllBlacks will challenge... blah, blah...
What should be entertaining is his ongoing contribution on Twitter and ruckersforum "twitter" site. He has allready called Johan Ackerman an idiot on Twitter to one of the coaches players, as well as given selection tips to Meyer.....A player that Meyer was involved with when at the Bulls. He is telling someone to drop their career with Conaght, after being dropped by Leinster- to come back and challenge for the Boks...
Oh brother.......
AGAgPleezDeddy
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AGAgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
14 Oct 2014, 19:46#78
Everyone here is a good poster in their own right, people clearly have different views on how to get the Boks to the top but rugby would be boring if people agreed all the time. Dave, Moz, Mike, Beeno, etc all make really good rugby points - you all clearly know the sport. To be honest most of you know it way better than me which is I started reading this forum.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2014, 21:30#79
APD
Don.t under-estimate you own knwledge of t he game we all love. You really are a valuable member and often enough raise points of rel value and interest whcih could and do impac on our thinking about the game.
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Oct 2014, 21:56#80
This has been a most amusing thread with poor snapster and mike all at sea and floundering badly. Why would anybody try and make these senseless denials!!!!! Hilarious stuff from the oaks.