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A very interesting Folau article

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jul 2019, 19:02
#41
04 Jul 2019, 19:02#41
Throwing insults tells something to those who know what to look for...certain patterns get obvious.
SH
sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
04 Jul 2019, 20:44
#42
04 Jul 2019, 20:44#42
What are your rambling about Draad Trekker with this cryptic BS?Oh, I see - you are running to Beeno' aid once again. Your hero..
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jul 2019, 21:49
#43
04 Jul 2019, 21:49#43

Whooosh!

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Jul 2019, 09:47
#44
05 Jul 2019, 09:47#44
Ah ok dumb Beenkop so in your ignorant eyes being gay is a choice. So tell me why you chose to be straight when you were faced with that choice as a youngster? I take it being blind or deaf is a choice to?
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
05 Jul 2019, 11:29
#45
05 Jul 2019, 11:29#45

I'm curious now that Dave has raised this issue...…

Beeno and CC, what age were you when your time came to make this decision to be straight or gay?

Or is this exactly like puberty, where it hits individual people at different stages of their life, therefore you have both not yet been faced with this major life changing decision yet?

LMFAO

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
05 Jul 2019, 11:30
#46
05 Jul 2019, 11:30#46

Oh fuck ...…. I just realized

If you have both never faced this decision yet...……..

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Jul 2019, 11:36
#47
05 Jul 2019, 11:36#47
DA image being as stupid and ignorant as these two, life must be so damn simple!!! You won’t get an answer out of them for neither do they have the answer and more than anything my question challenges their ignorant take on sexuality and God forbid they admit to seeing the light!!! I guess Gareth Thomas only chose late in life to be gay according to these idiots? He clearly like Beenkop and Clown chose the straight route at first - bwhaaahaaa what a joke!!!
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
05 Jul 2019, 12:49
#48
05 Jul 2019, 12:49#48

LMFAO

Exactly Dave

If they have not yet reached this monumental decision in their life...…..

Things could get interesting in the near future....

ROTFLMFAO

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Jul 2019, 13:29
#49
05 Jul 2019, 13:29#49

Saffex perv stop blaming anybody but yourself for you perv stance. 

Go and do some research how you don't have to be a perv. 

Dave as a lawyer what do you think about the British Folau having that great court win. 

Bodes ill for freak goth Raylene and her perv buddies. What a great precident the British case is for Folau. 

Looks to me the great man Folau is going to win. Raylene must be wetting herself. How does such a nz freak get to head up Oz rugby!!!

Our resident pervs better prepare for mountains of EGG  landing.

Oz rugby would be wise to offer an abject apology and a handsome settlement to Folau. 10 million is far too small. 

The pervs need to get into their bone heads they will never stop Christians quoting the Bible and will never shut down free speech. How daft can you get!!!! Hahahahaha

Isn't it tiresome to have these disgraceful pervs whining away how horrid Folau is day by day. They have nothing to say about LGBT abuse of Children. Nothing about abortion up to term and infanticide etc. These pervs are far, far gone and disgust me.

Saw article where in Minnisota 3 infants were left to die after birth. The pervs doubtless think the mother and doctor were exercising their rights etc. How much lower is it possible for these pervs to sink. 

Fortunately normal people are fighting back

Goooooo Folau sue the pants off the pervs. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Jul 2019, 13:45
#50
05 Jul 2019, 13:45#50

All this stuff the pervs on the board are supportingll

Just how sick are these perverted sick ous. 

Their claim it only effects the pervs themselves is a blatant lie. The pervs here will do anything, including lie, to support LGBT. 

They should all stop polluting our website and bugger off to a gay website where they belong. 




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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Jul 2019, 14:00
#51
05 Jul 2019, 14:00#51

Having gay desires might be natural...most probably are IMO, but deciding to  to live a gay lifestyle is a choice. I'm not staying it's wrong or sin or whatever, I saying it's a choice acting on that impulse.  Some impulses are acceptable to everyone, some are not.

If you want to be a Christian, you must embrace the Bible...if you don't want to, that's fine....but don't expect Christians to change their beliefs to accommodate you....start your own religion.

Life is full of choices and every choice discriminates against the opposite alternative....we cannot please all of the people all of the time. Everyone can't be expected to like everyone else...or be nice to everybody. Being offended by someone else's choice is not the end of the world. 



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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Jul 2019, 15:02
#52
05 Jul 2019, 15:02#52
Draad you sound as stupid and ignorant as Beenkop and Clown. Get this into your thick skull being gay is not based on a desire or acting on an impulse what a stupid thing to say. You are born gay it’s not a choice, therefore to live that life is perfectly natural for gay people it’s not a choice. What choice do they have exactly in terms of lifestyle? The fact that religion frowns on gay people speaks volumes for how pathetic religion is. But best of all is how pathetically hypocritical it is given the fact that gay priests are accepted these days.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Jul 2019, 15:05
#53
05 Jul 2019, 15:05#53
Beenkop I see you have still not answered the question, wonder why that is? One certainty is that Folau in this modern age has no chance in hell of winning anything that involves openly discriminating against others especially in Oz and the UK. The dumb homophobic twat is history and is now crying like a spoilt little brat because he has seen his arse
MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
05 Jul 2019, 15:33
#54
05 Jul 2019, 15:33#54

Australia does have a Fair Workers Act no.772 which bars discrimination in employment on religious grounds.So it seems he is being discriminated against by those who accuse him of discrimination. A case of the pot calling the kettle black.

If it's the main sponsor Quantas who want Folau's head on a platter then why do they discriminate against Christianity and not Islam which is the religion of their  partnerships  in the Middle East?Another case of the pot calling the kettle black.


DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
05 Jul 2019, 15:35
#55
05 Jul 2019, 15:35#55

Typical Beeno, that he now posts that some posters on here would gladly support a mother leaving her 3 children to die...….

I say again, the views and opinions, and statements that you mention as a Christian on this forum Beeno, must make your other fellow Christians absolutely cringe in horror and disgust...….

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Jul 2019, 16:02
#56
05 Jul 2019, 16:02#56

Saffex, are you sure you have a law degree? How did Folau discriminate against gays?

Did he call them stupid? Or thick sculled? He wasn't even rude. He quoted the Bible...must that be banned?

Fascism has a new jacket it seems.

Who you are might not be a choice, but your actions are. Being gay might not be a choice, acting gay is a choice...and I have no problem with anyone making that choice. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
05 Jul 2019, 16:18
#57
05 Jul 2019, 16:18#57
I have no problems with the Bible being banned. It was taken from the Arabs anyway, and the most controversial stuff in the Bible seems exactly the same as Islam.



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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
05 Jul 2019, 16:21
#58
05 Jul 2019, 16:21#58
Most democratic countries emphasize that discrimination cant be done based on religion, gender, and sex, in addition to standard democratic rights.
However, that does not allow one of these 3 groups to insult under the banner of free speech. If a gay rugby player said that all Christians are hypocrites that are going to hell all over social media, the law would apply equally to them. In this instance, they are the aggressor, not the victim. 

The gay person could not counter this with "it is their beliefs", or produce some ancient text that has been edited so many times that no one knows the original BS, from the current BS.
The Christian Happy Clappies are using an outdated legal system that is over 2 thousand years ago. They bandy the word free speech around - but their Church has never supported this when the shoe is on the other foot. If someone insults them, then they no longer consider the same act freedom of speech.
A Christian (or Muslim), believes what the Bible/Koran says is the word of God. So how can it be wrong? These simpletons can accept that all other religions could be wrong, except their own. (or at least their own brand of their own religion). 
The world is moving forward, and intolerant Christians are being left behind in the Western World.



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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
05 Jul 2019, 16:28
#59
05 Jul 2019, 16:28#59

"acting gay is a choice"

Interesting

Do a lot of gay men choose their voice to be at that certain octave.... or are they born with it?

Are you saying that these same men stand in front of the mirror from a very young age and act out and  practice that voice?


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Jul 2019, 16:46
#60
05 Jul 2019, 16:46#60

There are no genetic differences between gay men and normal men. 

That funny voice is to attract attention.

Love to hear ou daperv funny voice! Would prove his gay status immediately.

He comes to the board every day supporting gays and attacking  normal people. Da is as que er as they come. 

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Jul 2019, 16:58
#61
05 Jul 2019, 16:58#61

No Dave ... I never had thoughts of an unnatural relationship. It never dawned on me that a sphincter was something to desire. Not on a woman and certainly not on a man.  It’s a poop hole for crying out loud.   

I must have been intellectually ahead of my time because I knew even at that age the purpose of a poop hole. No one had to explain it to me, Dave. I just knew right off that it was for ridding oneself of waste material ... to part ways with stinking, bad smelling sheeeeaat.

Unlike you, Dave ... I don’t find shit attractive at all. It’s never been a part of my fantasy. In fact ... I try to avoid it as best I can. I get really annoyed if I step in dog shit. It smells bad, Dave. Haven’t you noticed? Human poop is even worse.

Picture this ... a male couple adopt a kid. One morning they walk into the lounge to find their five year old adopted son watching TV. The kid turns to them and says “What’s that smell, daddy 1?”

Daddy 1 replies “Oh daddy 2 and I had a night of love last night. I need to go take a shower.”

Dave ... homos spend a life time hiding their perverted desires and they do so for a reason. It’s shameful .. embarrassing. They hide because they know there’s something wrong with them ... and they don’t want the world to know ... and they are right .. there is something very wrong with them. That's why t's referred to as being "in the closet". 

A homosexual act is not a natural occurrence. It’s a perversion of what’s natural.

Like I’ve said before ... it’s a disease like Siamese Twins or a child born with Down Syndrome.

It’s as unnatural as a man born with the urge to have sex with goats. I suppose you’d have the goat fcuker embrace his urges, right? Maybe even take the goat home to meet mommy and daddy ... see if he can get their approval ... fully expectant that they’ll understand.

It’s natural after all, right Dave? The man was born with these urges so it must be, right?

Well that’s you, Dave. Don’t expect me to give it the thumbs up.

It’s a sickness that needs to be managed ... not embraced ... not encouraged ... and definitely not thought of as natural. It’s not. Not by a long shot.

There is nothing natural about two men standing in the shower crossing swords ... or licking each other’s poop hole ... or fisting each other to the point where one or both have to stuff rags in their butts to prevent seepage.

It’s disgusting ... and you are a sick fcuk to think it’s not.



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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
05 Jul 2019, 17:23
#62
05 Jul 2019, 17:23#62
The happy-clappy Christians like Beeno and Cleancutt think they are spreading the word of God - but it is all psychological. By criticizing people using the Bible, this makes them feel like they are better people than what they are. They know deep down they are sub-human lacking basic human values - so they need to seek guidance from the ancient text that originated in the past ancient Muslim states.... The same places that stone women to death for petty crimes in this day and age.



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Jul 2019, 20:24
#63
05 Jul 2019, 20:24#63

Take your meds sharkperv you hapless loon.

The British Folau win his case so no reason to suppose Folau hasn't got a great case. 

You pervs hate the truth. It won't end well for you. 

Folau took the trouble to warn you at great personnel cost so please take heed. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Jul 2019, 20:27
#64
05 Jul 2019, 20:27#64

Shark, you are what you think you despise. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Jul 2019, 20:32
#65
05 Jul 2019, 20:32#65

Sharkperv is a foul sick person.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Jul 2019, 20:34
#66
05 Jul 2019, 20:34#66

Blueperv just can't help going on and on with his perv obsession. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Jul 2019, 20:37
#67
05 Jul 2019, 20:37#67

acting gay is a choice"

Interesting

Do a lot of gay men choose their voice to be at that certain octave.... or are they born with it?

Are you saying that these same men stand in front of the mirror from a very young age and act out and practice that voice?

No, I'm  saying gay men choose to enter into a sexual relationship with other men...just like heterosexuals make choices. Being gay has nothing to do with the way you speak...typecasting are we?

I am heterosexual. I am married. I find some other women attractive, but  I don't act on that attraction because I choose not to....my choice. I am not an animal, I can control my emotions and urges if I choose to. 

We are what we choose to be....some choices are difficult. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Jul 2019, 20:39
#68
05 Jul 2019, 20:39#68

"They know deep down they are sub-human lacking basic human values - "

Look who's talking !

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Jul 2019, 20:41
#69
05 Jul 2019, 20:41#69

Yes says the freak who had the devil as his avatar. 

Sick ou! 

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NdabaningiClub Pro116 posts
05 Jul 2019, 21:31
#70
05 Jul 2019, 21:31#70

The rate of concurrence of homosexual orientation among monozygotic twins is approx 65%. As monozygotic twins are genetically identical, one would expect a 100% concurrence rate if this was a simple matter of being born so. The extent to which their shared psychosocial environment is similar/equivalent and is an etiological contributor becomes a logical consideration.

The act of professing Christianity (in contrast to Judaism or Islam) has become a politically incorrect act, and aggressive atheism (particularly towards Christians), the politically correct and societally-rewarded point of view. This is why Folau is being attacked. If he had made his moffie-adverse statements as a Muslim, the outcry would have been muted and the consequences nil or minimal. It's directly related to his support of Christianity.

It's far easier from a survival point of view to thoughtlessly parrot whatever the current popular sentiment is, without actually thinking about it. The atheists have their scripture of course. It was provided by Dawkins in tirade (not thesis) format. As the tide changes the y'll be the bannermen for whatever is popular, sans any sense of moral or cognitive inconsistency. 

My respects go to Folau and anyone (such as the Christians on this board, George Carlin, HL Mencken, etc.) willing to take an unpopular stance and to stick to it. Some of them face death in prison, like Assange.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Jul 2019, 22:22
#71
05 Jul 2019, 22:22#71

Great Post Nda. Especially the one about if a Muslim had made such a comment. I named two. One was Sunni bill Williams who said gays are like animals. I forget the name of the other

There were of course zero consequences and where was the outrage from the pervs. Posdibly didn't hear about it. But my posts about these two Muslims got zero response. 

So yes the target is Christians but it's also free speech as the British Folau case proved. 


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
05 Jul 2019, 23:05
#72
05 Jul 2019, 23:05#72

Oh fuck Folau ........ I think I'll return when this post has slid out of sight or moved downstairs.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
06 Jul 2019, 01:38
#73
06 Jul 2019, 01:38#73

“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your way s My ways,” says the Lord.
---Is. 55:8

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Jul 2019, 11:36
#74
06 Jul 2019, 11:36#74

Bob you are disgrscing yourself. Don't tell me you are on the suade of the pervs!!!

No more foul language please Bob!!!!

Yes God's thoughts are very different. He definitely says homosexuality is wrong. The pervs say God is wrong. There can only be one loser. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Jul 2019, 11:41
#75
06 Jul 2019, 11:41#75

By the way Bob who posted this BS thread on the rugby section and just kept attacking Folau. Yes that noted perv bluebokperv followed by daperv.


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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
06 Jul 2019, 12:53
#76
06 Jul 2019, 12:53#76

He quoted the Bible...must that be banned?


He was not banned for quoting the Bible.


but don't expect Christians to change their beliefs to accommodate you

So called christians change them by themselves to accomodate their needs.

Christianity is a revealed religion. Quoting the bible is an act of deference. Yet people taking it lightly when they claim the quotation thing.

This player's actions do not picture a guy living in awe of the christian god. They tell that either hell does not exist and then nothing to fear, or that hell exists and nothing to fear.

This guy was handled multiple warnings. He received warnings before renewing his contract. He renewed his contract and got a pay rise on the basis of his public profile(poster child of ARU) and told his hirer that he understood his warnings. One month later, he went back to bashing homosexuals again, for which he took a new warning. As it was not enough, few months later, he ended with that pic which eventually earned him the sack.

Multiple offenses. Guy could have told when he was offered a renewal, better to part ways because of his christian beliefs. Nope, he put them aside and took the money.


People listed as going to hell: the covetous, the envious, the greedy. Guy is so greedy he ran a campaign to fund his defence when earning millions. He cant even sacrifice his own money to make a point for his god. Other people must be parted with money. His own is too sacred to be sacrificed for his god.

Between his god and money, this guy has chosen money.

Which beliefs because this guy accomodates greed, damnation for greed at his will. He follows mammon. He is an idolater.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Jul 2019, 13:14
#77
06 Jul 2019, 13:14#77

Go Folau your great fight against bigotry looks like it's going to result in a big win for freedom loving people. After that black guy won his case in Britain (guy I call the British Folau) your win will simply cement the position leaving all the perv supporters in a complete froth! 

Imagine the PC brigade getting people fired whenever somebody says something they don't like. Really can't see it happening pervs so just suck it up and wait for the EGG to land. 

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NdabaningiClub Pro116 posts
06 Jul 2019, 21:18
#78
06 Jul 2019, 21:18#78

'The guy was handed multiple warnings'

Yep, he was. But it's irrelevant. What is being tested here IS NOT whether he was in breach of contract. What IS being tested is whether the contractual limitation was legitimate.

To clarify, here's an analogy: Your employer cannot include in the employment contract that you may not vote in election cycles, as the right to political activity supersedes employment contract limitations. Religious freedom is similar.

Asking for funding was a shrewd move. By doing so Folau was able to test how much support he has among the general public, to make that public support very visible, and to increase the heat on the ARU. Law must align with the fundamental moral convictions of the community from which it originates. The ARU is dependent on this very community for its continued existence.

PS. If a rugby player takes up lay-preaching on Sundays, can his employer (lessay the ARU) insist on the right to moderate the rugby player's sermons? 

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hakwaPro4,146 posts
07 Jul 2019, 01:07
#79
07 Jul 2019, 01:07#79

Folau did not breach his contract. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Jul 2019, 10:27
#80
07 Jul 2019, 10:27#80

Quite right Hacked Wauagh!

Go to Beeno's Trumpet where i have just posted a clip refuting ALL the major ways in which Folau is being attacked by the perv group; including the situation re his contract.

So far i have posted this Folau stuff on Beeno's Trumpet as some folk pretend they only want rugby posts on the rugby section.

Folau looks like he is heading for a major win. That verdict in the UK re the British Folau ( a black guy) set a devastating precedent. See Beeno's Trumpet.


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