16 Jan 2014, 16:03#84
Mike, let's be serious. Cricket is a funny old game and I know that you think that I am just trying to defend Smith and Kallis for the sake of defending them and keeping an argument alive, but it is not the case.
Yes, I agree that there have been matches where we have lost and where the openers/top order either went out cheap and early or scored slowly. Thing is that there are no two matches that are alike. That is why it is important that your batsmen have to be high quality, intelligent and extremely disciplined. In and ideal world each and every batsman should be 100% able to be adventurous when needed and and conservative when needed. All of our top batsmen has those features. Each and every one of them has the ability to go run chasing and each and every one of them has the ability to defend a wicket if and where necessary. The question is the discipline and concentration to do the right thing at the right time. The key is also the confidence and maturity of the players. You would always see our batsmen communicating between balls, like all quality batsmen should do. That is something that only comes with experience and experience is something that money cannot buy.
As far as Kallis and Smith is concerned, both of them have made a career decision. It was basically the same decision but with different outcomes. They have both arrived at a point where they had to make a decision about their futures. Kallis decided to call it a day as far as test cricket is concerned and concentrate on the shorter version. Smith started to ease out of things to concentrate on test cricket. He started by stepping back from the captaincy roles. First the T20 captaincy and then the ODI captaincy. I am sure that it was done in consultation with CSA. AB still needs a lot of guidance as far as captaincy is concerned. Faf, IMO, is a better captain and is doing quite well in captaining the T20 side. Thing is that between the two of them Faf is the more experienced captain. He was in fact always AB's captain in their junior days.
As far as Smith's batting performances are concerned, every batsman goes through patches where their performances takes a dip. There is not a single batsman who has never had it and the only way out is to keep playing, and that is what makes cricket a bit different. You can carry someone who is not 100% up to scratch. He will come back. He always has and I am sure that, like Kallis, he will call it a day when he knows that he is going to go down. Sure he is technically not 100% but he has never in his life been 100%. Not when he went for ducks and not when he made his first double century at Lord's.
There is also a recent development that is a major setback for SA cricket. It is the fallout between Alviro Peterson and the Lions management. The result is that Peterson resigned as captain and the captaincy was handed to Thami Tsolekile. The consequences? Thami will be taking the gloves and Quinton de Kock will probably be pushed out somewhere in the field. This is only my speculation but QDK is a young man and he needs to be guided through this because he might well feel that he has been pushed out. We cannot afford QDK to be sidelined by his franchise.
16 Jan 2014, 16:52#86
I do not think that Smith is admitting anything. we have to remember that he has been at the pinnacle of all three of the SA teams. He has been and is still playing test cricket for almost the last 12 years. Ricky Ponting had a longer test career (17 years) but he has only been captain for seven of those. Smith has been captain for the last the last ten years and has gone through a lot more shit than what Ponting had in his entire career. He got married and now has a kid as well and I am sure that he would like to calm down a bit and get the stress levels down. If he had been thinking that his form was a serious issue, he would have resigned from the ODI squad like Kallis did from the test squad, and not only have relinquished the captaincy.
I am sure that Kallis will have enough time to play limited overs cricket. Remember that he will not be part of the long touring squads any more and he will have a lot more time to play domestic limited overs cricket, while the rest of the squad is battling out in the test matches. I think that if he the 2015 CWC is his aim, this is the best way for him to go about it. He will get a lot more exposure to one day cricket than what he had till now. Remember that he will also have less bowling to do as well.
16 Jan 2014, 18:08#89
Nee man Maaikie. Read again.
"Remember that he will not be part of the long touring squads any more
and he will have a lot more time to play domestic limited overs cricket,
while the rest of the squad is battling o ut in the test matches."
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jan 2014, 18:18#90
What domestic competition? There is only one in SA and that is in October - November each year and entails about 10 matches per franchise. Very little to keep match fit on. His only hope seems to be to get a county contract to play in England - but will that actually happen?
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Jan 2014, 18:26#91
DomMike try catch a wake up you twit.......Kallis was out after 90 balls, you fool so he would not have been involved in the other 210 balls faced.........bloody hell man, catch a wake up
16 Jan 2014, 19:36#95
Uhmm. Kallis is not gone for ODIs.
16 Jan 2014, 22:17#97
IPL mik en moer is no yard stick. It is a joke run by the bookies.
17 Jan 2014, 03:21#98
Ha ha good one Saffex. No one responds to me because I don't know my rugby. Ha ha surely not even you believe that Saff?? Has it ever occurred to you that maybe it's because 90% of the time guys agree and my point is valid. It may differ from certain others but will be aligned with how the rest feel.
Has it occurred to you that you get so much feedback as your views do not reflect anyone else's thought process and is just plain down fucked up and wrong? How many guys have u called stupid because they don't know rugby but you do?? Nearly everyone. Common denominator Saff.
You are way too easy. Talk about taking candy from babies. Go on Saff, tell us how Jean is past it and Jantjies and Mnisi are the future.