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Coetzee consults Saff-eeno on backline

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OI
oimateyPro1,870 posts
11 Jun 2015, 21:31
#1
11 Jun 2015, 21:31#1

14 Johnny Kotze, 13 Huw Jones, 12 Jaco Taute, 11 Pat Howard


Will be interesting to see how they go vs Sharks. Coleman should give them plenty of ball. Great opportunity to showcase what they can do vs:


14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 S'bura Sithole,






BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Jun 2015, 21:42
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11 Jun 2015, 21:42#2
That backline should have included VAn Wyk who is on the bench. What has not entered ou oimayey's mind is these guys are very much out of practice having spent the season on the bench.
It will also have escaped Oimatey that 14 changes have been made to the side.Now who can possibly assess what will happen in these circumstances. Rhodes last time out was not the Rhodes before his injury. 
Nevertheless lets hope the hapless guppies are put away, Boks and all by the Mighty Stormers!! Maybe wee Coetzee will get a big message sent to him. 

OI
oimateyPro1,870 posts
11 Jun 2015, 21:51
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11 Jun 2015, 21:51#3
Beeno - where's the faith my man. They haven't even played yet and you're hedging your bets. Even with all those changes the Stormers are putting out a good looking forward pack with players that have had plenty of game time this season and should give the backline lots of possession. I think this game could very well break your way  
Either way, I am sure there will be lots to comment on.......

JE
JeromeVClub Pro492 posts
11 Jun 2015, 21:54
#4
11 Jun 2015, 21:54#4
I'm not optimistic about the Stormers backline this week. This is not a good defensive backline or a good attacking backline.
Taute is a vodacom cup player at best, i don't expect him to do much in terms of creating or breaking the line. 

Johnny Kotze and Huw Jones hasn't showed any kind of form in the past, both shouldn't  be part of the setup either.

If Stormers win this match it's going to be done with a 10 man game plan in place where the forwards dominate with less involvement through the backs.  
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Jun 2015, 21:59
#5
11 Jun 2015, 21:59#5
 Oimatey rugby is team game and 14 changes is a bit much. But yes I remain hopeful as there are good players in the team announced even if badly under done and lacking in game time together. We like giving the guppies severe snotklaps!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Jun 2015, 22:27
#6
11 Jun 2015, 22:27#6
 What is a saff-eeno, sounds like a nasty hybrid We will see if it yields results.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 Jun 2015, 23:25
#7
11 Jun 2015, 23:25#7
 The cart horse at 12 bothers a bit. Not bad,  but we will miss the pace of the dwergies this weekend. 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,285 posts
12 Jun 2015, 00:34
#8
12 Jun 2015, 00:34#8
This is certainly a Beeno/Saffex Fattie back line.  One dimensional crashballs
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Jun 2015, 01:03
#9
12 Jun 2015, 01:03#9

Taute a Vodacom man? Nah I have heard him called a class act.

 

Fatties vs Fattie Esterhuizen ....a glorious moment in South African rugby. One thing is for sure, a Fattie will win....think I'll play golf.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Jun 2015, 13:06
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12 Jun 2015, 13:06#10

Its a stupid backline......Howard should be at 13, Taute at 15.....with Kotze and Jones on the wing.


At least they have got rid of useless de Jongh  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Jun 2015, 13:41
#11
12 Jun 2015, 13:41#11

Kaboooooooom what we have here is a major moment folks. Did you feel the earth move......Dave has made his once a year tectonic shift on a player.

 

 

He wants Taute to move from centre to fullback.....kabooooooom!

 

 

For years he has maintained Taute is Bok centre material, that he didn't miss Israel Dagg to lose the home test against the ABs in 2012....that HM is a fool not chosing Taute at c entre.

 

 

And now this......kaboooooom!

BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
12 Jun 2015, 13:50
#12
12 Jun 2015, 13:50#12
De Jongh is not useless! He is very effective, even dangerous, but only up until Super Rugby level. In tests he is much like Olivier. Very good, but not good enough! 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Jun 2015, 14:09
#13
12 Jun 2015, 14:09#13
I agree with that Bloo, not quite test class . That said, I would much rather have de Jongh at Bok 13 than JJ or Taute. 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Jun 2015, 15:51
#14
12 Jun 2015, 15:51#14

Huh.....what are you on about.......its about utilising the players at your disposal......Taute is good at 13 or 15, not 12........Howard is a quality 13, so I'd play him there, not wasted on the wing.


I have never rated Taute as a 12.........therefore if I am playing Howard at 13, it makes sense to play Taute at 15.......helloooooooooooo.........what the hell has that got to do with the utter bullshit you have come up with.......geez get a grip Moz.


I'll spell it out for you Taute is a quality 13 or 15......I'd be happy to see him in either position.


As for Taute losing us a test at 13, that is another load of typical bullshit from you.....fact is Taute has already proved a better 13 than useless de Jongh.......it was that same year that Taute was good at 13 for the Boks and where de Jongh was absolutely useless against England......he was an insult.


JJ and Taute are far better 13's than little de Jongh.


de Jongh is not S15 standard......he has proved that for the past 2 seasons......evidenced by last weeks weakest performance of all the SA 13's on display.


Hope you are able to comprehend my clarification on Taute, I'll paint pictures if need be  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Jun 2015, 23:53
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12 Jun 2015, 23:53#15
I got it.....Taute is as slow as a cart horse. So rather than using his fattie bulk in 12 channel....you want him to play 13 so he can miss players on the outside just as he missed Dagg. It's all the same old imbecilic babble....no tectonic shift, more like a small mud slide.. 
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Jun 2015, 01:04
#16
13 Jun 2015, 01:04#16

 Dave, You shouldn't venture into any debate on backline play.....only a blithering idiot dares to speak about something he knows nothing about.


Throwing out names of players is not the answer and doesn't come close to opening up decent debate about the subject matter.....your monotonous "class act" rubbish doesn't cut it.



Denny offering help where most needed.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Jun 2015, 10:32
#17
13 Jun 2015, 10:32#17
 Taute was brilliant when playing for the Lions especially at 15. Then he came down here and got injured. Can he recapture his old form? He is still only 24 but has the injury affected his pace. One wishes Jaco everything of the best.This afternoon against the guppies will be interesting. 14  changes  means its a new team but also a fresh side with guys wanting to make a statement. Hard to call how well Stormers will go.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Jun 2015, 10:33
#18
13 Jun 2015, 10:33#18
 Big test for Kebble and Koch.
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