End homophobia in sports says Eales

 I don't think anyone uses any homophobic slurs anyway, at least not frequently. 

I'm tired of hearing the term homophobia. It's a means of controlling what people can say or think. That said it will be hard to stamp abusive language from sport. Players will use what they know you will respond to. Are we going to mic players now? 

 Homosexuality is dead wrong and must never be encouraged no matter what the smart alec politically correct say. Its too disgusting to contemplate!
They should for one have separate shower rooms!

 Most people couldn't care less what someones sexual orientation is in Team Sport as long as we win.

For the record I think Homosexuality is a choice and I think it is a pervesion.

 Well you and Beeno make good company together, honestly in this day and age It's mind boggling to find such backward, intolerant attitudes, shame lads, take a hard look at yourselves.

 All being said and done, now lets go meet the pansies!

 "backward, intolerant attitudes" Poi-e get off your high horse.

Well said hacked waaaugh - ou pooo ie is not a vry tolerant oak for sure! 
pooooie has been brainwashed to think this perversion is natural. If everyone was like this the human race would cease to exist.
It would appear the controlling elite can brain wash people to believe anything - take evolution for example - the dumbest theory ever!!  
In the end no matter how much they rant about things there is only one opinion on the matter that counts. God has said very clearly and on a number of occassions that homosexuality is wrong.  END OF STORY.Read Romans 1:32 for example
Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

No there is a duty of care to tell homosexuals that their practices are a perversion and condemned by God.

Hakwa, Beeno...you're both the type quacks that give organised religion a bad name, hope you're happy together.  Hope you see the light one day but I'm not holding my breath.

 pooooooo ie ypou can bleat on about how great homosexuality is but God will not change his mind on the subject. Its a perversion and will always remain so and of course will be judged. 1 Corinthians 6 verse 9:Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.…

Now again no amount of ranting and raving will change the holiness of God and His view of these matters. Hacked Waaaugh and I know what God has said on these matters and accept his authority and ability to pronounce on these things. Satan loves to twist everything and pollute the minds of men. He loves giving God a bad press. He is of course doomed along with his followers.
Wise up pooooo ie get on the winning side. Everyone needs the Saviour as all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. 

Would matter if God existed, but he doesn't so homosexuality is completely acceptable.

 You're a sick man Beeno...BTW has God changed his mind on slavery yet?

 Beeno1;
Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

No there is a duty of care to tell homo[removed]uals that their practices are a perversion and condemned by God.





Beano, sounds much like what em ISIS oaks say when they throw their supposed wicked brethren off the rooftops .

poi-e, I was going to make that exact point. Slavery is fine, but being gay is not! What a complete joke! And Beans, don't come with the stupid argument that in bible times slaves were treated differently, because if that is your argument, then maybe homosexuals were also different in bible times. Lets explore why slavery was just as bad in bible times as at any other point in history. The Jews needed to be freed from the evil Egyptians that held them as slaves! In fact it was such a big deal that God brought the most vicious plagues on the Egyptians, even enabling Moses to part the seas just so that the Jews could escape Egyptian slavery. Which is quite a big effort on the big guys part, seeing as though slavery was so mild and pleasant back then!!   
I am still seeking answers when it comes to religion, and don't quite know where I stand, but whenever I hear how Beeno represents Christianity, I am inclined to think of the whole religion as a joke.  

 Hillarious -->last time I checked, people are still allowed to have opinion on issues, whether it be homo se x uality (LOLS too funny spreading out the word to avoid censorship), abortion, s ex with animals/dead people/children etc etc

 Sure you can, Hitler was allowed to have an opinion on the Jews too, didn't mean that sound reasonable folk can't speak up when offensive opinions are being broadcast...

 hysterical Poi-e with your comparison and I assume you are infering that you are the reasonable one lols

Hmmm, as opposed to you lumping homose xuals in with abortionists, beastiality offenders, necrophiliacs, and peadofiles...and yes I believe that like most people we should be striving for a much more tolerant society, bet sadly people like you will never realise how harmful your daft antiquated small minded bible influenced opinions are to reaching that goal...you and Beeno deserve each other.

 People like me?....riiiiiight...as opposed to people like you .

 Yes, you're the one who thinks being g@y is a choice and is a perversion do you not?  Hakwa, the dark ages called, they want their intolerant small minded attitudes back.
Oh and not just people like you...people like you and Beeno...oh and the Westboro Baptist Church...basically anyone on the religious lunatic fringe...I'd draw you a Venn diagram if I could.

"If everyone was like this the human race would cease to exist."

I assume that when he says "like this" Baboon-ou is referring to homosexuality.

If so, then it sounds almost as if Baboon-ou is supporting the theory that mankind needs to breed to propagate the species . . . which sounds almost Darwinian by Baboon-ou's standards.

Baboon-ou, if everyone became gay and the human race ceased to exist, surely your god would just create a new species . . . I mean he has done it before hasn't he? Ho pefully this time he won't screw up and give mankind the homosexual option! Makes you wonder why he didn't get it right the first time. So much for that "intelligent design" you're always banging on about!

LMAO!

 This post was meant to draw opinions Poi-e. I gave mine. Obviously you did not like my opinion. That is ok. It is still my opinion.

I'll say it once more. You Westerners can never understand spiritual things. The greatest weakness of the Western world. Spiritual growth is happening all over the world, but the Westerners are lagging well behind. It's going to cost you all in the end. The United nations mandate is to return the world to Earth Worship, and the rest of the world is prime to receive that, but the Western world is seen as the biggest blockage to the total culmination of that vision. You can read more about that in the UN Bio-Diversity Document, where they will regard a human no more value as a rock. You can read more about what awaits you in the highly esteemed Alice Bailey's 'Externalization of the Hierarchy'. A key figure of Theosophy, the United Nations has a shrine room in the tradition thereof.

No offence intended Lestat, but that is the opinion of one individual. There are a great many others that place many of the worlds atrocities right at the doorstep of religion. For me the book is still open, and I am actively seeking answers, but some of the most closed minded people I have ever met, are the most religious.  

@Hakwa: There are a few aspects to Homosexuality. One such cause is problematic upbringing. In both males and females weak and destructive father figures, or absent fathers, can cause the kinds of issues that lead one to homosexuality. If you listen to the accounts of lesbians and gay men - I have read many hundreds - there is a common  trend of having issues with their fathers.

Another issue is the the unbalancing of hormones. Particularly in Western foods we are intentionally having our hormones altered. Even drinking milk can do considerable harm. This can very well affect sexual identity. This coupled with the fact that homosexuality is being glamorized and encouraged, seen as trendy, make it all the more easy to slip into.

The final one is again the media throwing it into your face, glamorizing the status of homosexuality and making it seem more 'fun' and exiting than heterosexuality. I am much younger than most of you and can speak of the shift that happened in 2004/2005. That was my generation at a pivotal teen age where we were extensively targeted. At school most of the literature was pro-homosexuality in such a way that it was forced on you. I witnessed the social engineering first hand. I even watched a program on channel 4 stating that if you have any questions about your sexuality "you are gay". That was up to 2003. Then the emo movement happened in 2004. Scores of people were roped into bisexuality that were never interested before. Bisexuality turned into homosexuality. I recall how genuine gay people were voicing their anger with these people who thought it was just a trend. This is accounting for the majority of people 'becoming' gay.

There is a spiritual aspect to this, but most here won't be interested to hear it, or understand it.

When all is said and done, homosexuality is not genetic and can not be attributed to having a misaligned spirit in the wrong body. Were it so then nobody could ever change, but that happens continually. What these people need is proper counseling, such that is never provided for. Unfortunately the fraud that calls itself Christianity, but is paganism under a sheer veil in the West, is not stepping into that gap. It's not enough or even desirable to hate these people and aggressively discourage them from doing these practices. Once you open that spiritual door is opened, it's not so easy. You will fall into a cycle of straining to fight it, failing then feeling perpetual guilt.

Trying to encourage these things doesn't lead to happiness and fulfillment in people. Most of the pro-homosexuality movement folks here have never had to deal with intricacies of their problems. And it gets much worse when you get into transgendered individuals! I have dealt with several, and the after-effects of their procedures lead to a lime-time of failed counseling - you cannot make someone another gender, you will always be biologically what you were born as. Mutilating the body and artificially re-balancing of hormones leads to extraordinary problems in and of itself. Too much estrogen in men is fatal and damaging and likewise testosterone increases in women very damaging to health. Encouraging people to psychologically align with a lie is not a good method of dealing with the problem. It never works. If you truly care for people you won't enable them to hurt themselves!!!

Anyway, this has gone on far longer than I intended. It's a very intricate issue that I could talk about at far greater length than this post.

Homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom as well- without the influence of social influence. . 
It is a genetic flaw- except for nympho Les-bians who also like men

There is no genetic link. The entire genome has been mapped in 2001 and there was no genetic component found. But that hasn't stopped the myth being perpetuated. And if you have a group of male animals that engage in sexual behaviour with each other, it's always where no female is present; and be sure it's always the males. But once a female is present their behaviour changes. It's not very common either. But once again it shows that sexuality can be channeled inappropriately when the dynamics are interfered with. But the key being that it is not normal behaviour.

Lestat I think you are confusing trendy college kids, with those that have genetic imbalance. 
All humans contain mail and female chromosomes. Nature sometimes gets the balance wrong. 

Genetic imbalances? Unbalanced hormone levels is nothing to do with genetics and everything humanity does today to disrupt it. What you are proposing is not real science. I make a distinction between trendies and those with physical conditions that can lead to misaligned sexuality. But the two are not mutually exclusive and culture can ad does tie into the hormonal disturbance as well as the behavioural disturbance as well.

  It's been proven that the male se#ual orientation is genetically influenced.

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=2606DC88B2C2BBBB4682AB8049F70810.journals?aid=9625997&fileId=S0033291714002451

By far the largest study of its kind to date, determining and a-nalyzing more than 900 genomas of twins, it proves that the homose#uality is genetically determined, so it's natural, as natural as the heterose# uality. For those who believe in God, this means that the homosexuality has been created by God

 Incorrect Basque.

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/identical-twin-studies-prove-homosexuality-is-not-genetic

"However, Sanders does not claim to have identified a single gene which ‘causes’ male homosexuality in humans and stresses that with complex human traits like sexual orientation there are many influencing factors, both gen etic and environmental."

 I'm not incorrect at all.
The study has been published in a scientifir peer-to-review magazine and untill the moment the results stands. And the resullts are that the following team:

A. R. Sandersa1a2 c1, E. R. Martina3, G. W. Beechama3, S. Guoa3, K. Dawooda4, G. Riegera5, J. A. Badnera2, E. S. Gershona2, R. S. Krishnappaa6, A. B. Kolundzijaa7, J. Duana1a2, P. V. Gejmana1a2 and J. M. Baileya8

a1 Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, NorthShore University HealthSystem Research Institute, Evanston, IL, USA

a2 Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Neuroscience, University of Chicago, Chicago, IL, USA

a3 Department of Human Genetics, University of Miami, Miami, FL, USA

a4 Department of Psychology, Pennsylvania State University, University Park, PA, USA

a5 Department of Psychology, University of Essex, Colchester, England, UK

a6 Department of Psychiatry, Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, Elmhurst, NY, USA

a7 Department of Sociomedical Sciences, Mailman School of Public Health, Columbia University, New York, NY, USA

a8 Department of Psychology, Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, USA

after finishing the biggest study ever made they found that:

"Results. We identified two regions of linkage: the pericentromeric region on chromosome 8 (maximum two-point LOD = 4.08, maximum multipoint LOD = 2.59), which overlaps with the second strongest region from a previous separate linkage scan of 155 brother pairs; and Xq28 (maximum two-point LOD = 2.99, maximum multipoint LOD = 2.76), which was also implicated in prior research.

Conclusions. Results, especially in the context of past studies, support the existence of genes on pericentromeric chromosome 8 and chromosome Xq28 influencing development of male sexual orientation."

PS: the adress that you posted is not working anymore.
What you quoted say it very clearly also:
"there are many influencing factors, both genetic and environmental."

Abasque - "it proves that the homose#uality is genetically determine"

The inconvenient truth:

"The new evidence "is not proof but it's a pretty good indication" that genes on the two chromosomes have some influence over sexual orientation, said Dr. Alan Sanders, the lead author. He studies behavioral genetics at NorthShore University HealthSystem Research Institute in Evanston, Illinois.

Experts not involved in the study were more skeptical.

Neil Risch, a genetics expert at the University of California, San Francisco, said the data are statistically too weak to demonstrate any genetic link. Risch was involved in a smaller study that found no link between male homosexuality and chromosome X.

Dr. Robert Green, a medical geneticist at Harvard Medical School, called the new study "intriguing but not in any way conclusive.""

But you don't need scientific evidence to know everyone should be treated with love and respect.

 I've mentioned this before, but someone very close to me is g a y, and it IS how he was born. From the time he was a young child he was not interested in sports or cars or anything else 'boys' were supposed to be interested in. He would always be playing with the girls, and always just got on better with them. A very balanced family life, with a fantastic mother and father. He was never abused in any way either. When this person grew up, he tried to date woman, but was just not physically attracted to them. Basically he fought being g a y his whole life, and absolutely DID NOT want to be g a y, but was, and eventually at 32, came out and has been a much MUCH happier person ever since. He said one thing that made me, previously a homophobe, listen. He said "why would I want to be g a y? It is just going to make my life hard. People will hate me and judge me. But I am g a y, even though I don't want to be" 
To this day I find the idea of g a y  intimacy nauseating, and I just don't understand how one man could find another attractive, but knowing this person and hearing their explanation, and knowing their history, leaves me 100% convinced, that him being g a y, was NOT a choice! Maybe there is another aspect for abused, or poorly rased kids, but not in this case.

I think as long as people are not harming others, we should leave them alone and not be so judgmental.

All I'm saying is there hasn't, isn't and never will there ever be a genetic component. It's easier to understand if you have actually studied science, you can see through the murkiness of what corporate controlled scientists are telling you. That sector is trying the damnedest to convince the world of many fallacies, this is one of them. Genetics just doesn't work the way they would have you believe. And that component has been lacking for quite some time, all you have are general impressions and a few white lies. I have know gay people as well, and I have personally known of gay men who have changed from homosexuality. This cannot happen if it's genetic.

Mozart I am in agreement with you. I am not as Rooinek would like everyone to believe, I don't abuse anyone for being gay or anything else. Using aggression to subdue people doesn't work, nor does using fear to stop them from living the way they really want to. This is every mans time to choose his own way. But it is important to me to break through faulty science. It is being used very recklessly to promote a very dangerous form of pagan belief system and all it's practices.

"I am not as Rooinek would like everyone to believe"

Huh? What are you babbling about now, you stupid little man?

What is it about you that I am supposedly trying to get everyone to believe?

Are you talking about the fact that you were exposed as a common plagiarist? If that's what you're blubbering about then it's not a question of believing, the facts are on the "Bible Slavery" thread for all to see.

Are you talking about me trying to make everyone believe that you hate Patrick Lambie with a passion bordering on the obsessive? Huh? Is that what's got your lower lip trembling, little chap? Well, if so, do you deny it? Would you like me to start putting up quotes about Pat Lambie from LeTwat, Gonzo the Gimp, Dim Sum or AluTwat? Hmmm?

If it's none of those things then speak up, little boy. Dry your tears and tell us what naughty and ugly things Rooinek said about you. There there . . . it'll all be okay . . . be brave!

 Ye bunch of faggots.... all of ye...