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Fourie Du Preez to reconsider his retirement

Started by Beeno115 REPLIES402 VIEWS· 26 Jan 2012, 02:00
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jan 2012, 11:59
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26 Jan 2012, 11:59#1

Ex Keo

Fourie du Preez has strongly endorsed Heyneke Meyer for the Springboks coaching role and indicated that he would reconsider retirement from Test rugby if he was appointed.

The former Springboks scrumhalf is currently playing for Japanese side Suntory Goliath. The 29-year-old was widely recognised as the world’s finest No 9 before opting to end his international career after the 2011 World Cup. He was initially opposed to the idea of continuing in the green and gold, citing his desire to spend more time with his family, but said he would reconsider that position if Meyer got the nod.

‘I think Heyneke would be the perfect candidate and he deserves the opportunity given what he’s achieved,’ Du Preez said. ‘This will be a rebuilding year for the Boks and Heyneke has shown that there’s nobody better at putting structures into place for long-term success.

He could build something that lasts beyond the four-year cycle between World Cups and I think we need that. He hasn’t been a head coach at Test level but indirectly he’s been responsible for much of the success of South African rugby through his player identification and player development at senior and junior level. A hands-on role would make him so much more valuable to South African rugby.’

Du Preez concluded with a telling statement: ‘I’d reconsider international retirement if Heyneke became coach. I would have to prove myself. He must want me. There can be no free rides but I’d love to play under him.’

Meyer, who is expected to be installed in the position on Friday, is known to be a great appreciator of Du Preez’s talent and would welcome his return. Indeed there is a strong possibility that he would initiate it.

In an interview with SA Rugby magazine in 2011 Meyer said of Du Preez: ‘If he doesn’t play the Boks are in serious trouble and the Bulls wouldn’t be the side they have been in the past couple of years.

‘People point out that he is integral to their game plan, which is true. There isn’t a better box-kicking scrumhalf in world rugby. But that doesn’t take into account his full value.

As the link between the forwards and the backs he is the most influential player on the park. No player can match his decision-making under pressure. It’s also no secret why Morné [Steyn, Bulls and Springbok flyhalf] excelled in 2009 and struggled in 2010. Fourie takes so much pressure off him. He is the team’s brain and his absence is more often than not reflected in the result. If your scrumhalf crumbles under pressure your whole team will fall apart. Fourie never will because he has no flaws that can be exploited. Absolutely none.’

Meanwhile, another of Meyer’s former students, Victor Matfield, has also issued a veiled suggestion that he could put his retirement on hold to play under Meyer (OH NO PLEASE NOT!!!!). ‘Everyone knows what I think about Heyneke, but we must wait until Friday before we talk about it,’ the 110-cap lock told the Pretoria News. ‘Let’s wait and see what happens, we will talk. Everything has consequences. Playing? I don’t know but we will see. It depends if he wants me. I really don’t know, it is difficult to say …’

At 29 Du Preez is not to old but didnt really impress in 2011. Maybe Meyer can bring out the best in him?

Flashdakota
FlashdakotaClub Pro805 posts
26 Jan 2012, 14:19
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26 Jan 2012, 14:19#2

Why do most sports stars not know when to quit.

Besides Shane Warne, Glen McGrath and Mat Hayden, there appears to be a mental block as to when to quit whilst on top!

Come on FDP, rather stay away and be remembered as the legend which you truly were!

Same goes for Habana, i reckon unless he kicks ass this season, he should consider stepping down at the end of 2012.

 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jan 2012, 14:24
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26 Jan 2012, 14:24#3

Flash, Fourie may be able to come back at 29 years old. Unfortunately matfield at 34 (or is it now 35?) says he may consider coming back. He is way past it and, in my opinon, was never it.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
26 Jan 2012, 15:02
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26 Jan 2012, 15:02#4

Well said Flash....these guys are not going to get better or faster, it's time to move on and prepare others for the next WC.

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
26 Jan 2012, 15:05
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26 Jan 2012, 15:05#5

Oh for an Edit function....I should add on that if they hang around it  delays the preparation of future players.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 Jan 2012, 15:58
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26 Jan 2012, 15:58#6

When is the right time to retire, and what happened to the prinsciple of playing the best available at the time? Should there be a cut-off age when you say: " I don't care how good you are, but it is now time for you to step aside to make way for a future star. Yes, we know he is not as good as you are, but he just might be............... someday".

PS. I am not refering to Fourie du Preez in isolation. I am talking in general.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jan 2012, 16:17
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26 Jan 2012, 16:17#7

I wold argue if you are the best but getting on you should still be in the mi and helping a younger to step in?

Jean De Villiers being an example.

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 Jan 2012, 16:42
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26 Jan 2012, 16:42#8

@Beeno. Exactly. What is getting on in your eyes? Once again, this is not about Fourie du Preez, but you are taking Jean de Villiers as an example. Are you saying that he should now step aside and make way for a youngster? Remember that he is around the same age as Fourie (I have not checked it). They have played together in the team that won the U/21 RWC, remember. See............ It is not as easy as it seems.

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UsernamePro1,098 posts
26 Jan 2012, 16:54
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26 Jan 2012, 16:54#9

Matfield could easily fill the same role as Umaga did under Henry. Like I said on the article herem, there is no adequate replacement for him anyway. Fourie on the other hand still has a lot to offer. He will have to fight it out with Hougaard, those two are the only real test 9s we have. Though Hougaard is a very good wing too. Meyer called Hougaard the next Fourie, so maybe he could be the understudy for a while yet.

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Beeno2Newbie10 posts
26 Jan 2012, 17:02
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26 Jan 2012, 17:02#10

 More Keo shit - why post that shit on a forum that has its own news. Dumbass.

Flashdakota
FlashdakotaClub Pro805 posts
26 Jan 2012, 17:41
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26 Jan 2012, 17:41#11

Come on Beeno2.

Keep it clean mate.

Its an open forum and people can post any relevant info here.

Some things dont appeal to me, so i just read the next post.

No need to diss someones info / post / reply etc...

Besides which, there still isnt a need to get personal.

HJ
Hi-JinxRookie40 posts
26 Jan 2012, 18:26
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26 Jan 2012, 18:26#12

More likely that Victor will be brought in at a higher level.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Jan 2012, 10:18
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27 Jan 2012, 10:18#13

FDP was ordinary at the WC, not once did he show glimpses of the greatness that we've become accustomed to and it'll be silly of him to make a return as a full time player. I'll wear Victr as a technical advisor when it comes to the Bok lineout but that's where I'd cap proceedings.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Jan 2012, 11:10
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27 Jan 2012, 11:10#14

Cera I am saying Jean was very good at the world cup and should stay in the Bok mix and help bring along other centers.

Abs do this well - seemless integration of players.

Fourie Du Preez granted did not have a great world Cup. He has had a lot of injury problems etc.

However this is not an age issue - 29 cannot be too old provided a player is fit and motivated.

To me if Du Preez comes right he can still be considered and be part of the mix developing younger players etc. If he is good enough pick him.  matfield is far gone so leave him out.

I am backing Meyer to make the right calls.

 

 

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
27 Jan 2012, 13:54
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27 Jan 2012, 13:54#15

@Beeno. Do you still see Jean as the no 1 inside center? I mean from your perspective, because in my opinion, he was not as great as he was made out to be. Not for some time even. If he is not good enough, he should not be there, never mind his age. That was why I questioned the "moving on" issue. A players job, in the national side is to play the game and help his team win. His job is not to help bring youngsters through. That's the coaches' jobs. Where a "senior" players' assistance come into play is when you have a senior or more exeprienced player, next to a juior, or less experienced, player. The main proviso for this to work is that the more exeperienced player has to be the best in his position. What I am trying to say is this (and I am using a hypothetical scenario): A very exeperienced player inside of a player like Juan de Jongh for instance would do him the world of good............... provided that the inside center is the best that there is available. The last time around Jean was good, I agree, but was he the best? Not in my opinion. In my opinion, the best inside center was, unfortunately for us, sitting back in South Africa with an injury. Who knows, if he had been there we might even have scored a try or two in the QF against the Aussies.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Jan 2012, 10:57
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30 Jan 2012, 10:57#16

Our best centers are Frans, Jean and Jaque and whoever. I say whoever because Jaco Taute may prove to be a really good center. Also there is Sadie and de Jongh.

One Frans was injured Jean was our best center a the world cup. At the momnet I would pick Frans and Jean - outside center. I have alwys though jean should ideally hav ebeen at 13 to set up our wings more.

The trick is to have a player like Jean starting but not every match. The season is too long in any case.  Have a  group of 4/5 centers you pick from. Jean and jaque your experienced duo. Frans, Jaco, Sadie De jongh your younger guys.

Don't just throw away a player like Jean who has a fine rugby brain on him.Use his to develop younger Bok centers.

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