RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Nov 2015, 19:45#43
All jokes aside, Dave may have a bit of a fixation with the hopelessly overrated Willie le Roux but I'd entrust him with the Springbok coaching job ahead of the current idiot and his fawning Gimps like Moffie and Desert Fool.
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Nov 2015, 20:48#44
Rooitwit you do realise you are behaving like Dave's gimp! Put Willie in a backline coached to play some decent attacking rugby watch him go.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Nov 2015, 22:37#45
Here's the thing AAS....you have never had anything so much as a parking spot in your gift...let alone the Bok coaching job. Hell not even Bok latrine cleaner. Have you got off the programme and started to drink the hard stuff again?
How's the Roar?
04 Nov 2015, 23:53#46
So are you talking about the ABs backline beandoper ?I have no doubt Willie would blossom there for sure , hell even a mung bean like you could score a try or two off the golden chariot ride the ABs backline offers !
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Nov 2015, 01:49#47
Norwich??
Fens??
Try about an hours drive away from each!!
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Nov 2015, 03:33#48
Who gives a toss...it's all swamps and fens.
DEDenny
Captain12,893 posts
05 Nov 2015, 05:52#50
Here, the perfect combo...Dave as coach and Rooinek as his assistant coach ....
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Nov 2015, 06:10#51
Imagine the poor commentators trying to spot Dave chatting with his men....the poor chap is so short he could walk onto the park hand in hand with the Bok captain and pass for a particularly hirsute mascot.
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Nov 2015, 06:14#52
What irks me as armchair critic is the sometimes dead obvious strategic blunders our teams make. I know it's never as simple as it looks, but can anyone tell me why, in 2011 vs Aus, we did not try a few drop goals? We had 70% plus field and ball, Morne Steyn and could not get over the line. Why not make the game safe ala Jannie de Beer like vs the poms in 99?We lost by 1 drop!
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Nov 2015, 06:27#53
Closer to the present, why did our vaunted lineout not try on opposition ball.
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Nov 2015, 06:39#54
And why did they almost never use Eben in the LO? Why kick in a way you can't at least compete to get the ball back? Use the line or space? Noo! We kicked it on wings and FBs with no hope of the chasers even getting close to putting pressure on the receivers...well most of the time anyway.
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Nov 2015, 09:10#55
Give me the Bok job I say
It appears that the the I say bit it the key thought here. Bwahhahahahahaha
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Nov 2015, 09:12#56
Vaunted lineout playing under instructions. Dom ones! Meyer's thinking very apparent in way side played
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Nov 2015, 12:13#57
No chaps......you have misread me.....I was responding to Mikes post where he attempted to narrow down my list.
I said Kolisi, Coenie and Jantjies etc should be added to his list.
Jaco Kriel would be my starting 6, Pollard my 10 and Malherbe following his WC performances would be my starting 3
MDMonkey D Luffy
Pro6,277 posts
MDMonkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
08 Nov 2015, 19:26#59
@saffex,
thnx bru,
didnt read most of the comments, but ive boomarked this thread and will look out for some of the names im not familiar with.
if any other peeps have a few names i should look out for not on that list, give us a holla,
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Nov 2015, 02:12#61
Don't flatter Sushi too much, the dope is still a JJ fan. Hell even you have given up on that misplaced Beach rugby specialist.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Nov 2015, 08:32#62
Mozart
The only dolt on this site are you. Still carrying on about Fransie Steyn and De Jongh showed that even more than Sasue mentioning Engelbrecht.
KAKalaedFreddie
Club Pro495 posts
KAKalaedFreddieClub Pro495 posts
09 Nov 2015, 08:43#63
Jirre but you lot are funny. Daddy, don't let them discourage you. I still have that picture you gave me of Gerald Bosch. Remember how you used to tell me (I was only two then) that this guy will oneday be remembered as the greatest flyhalf the world has ever seen, do you remember Daddy. That is also when you told Mommy and me that we will soon be out of this hellhole of a Motherwell location, remember Daddy?
Mommy is still stuck there and you don't even visit anymore. Remember how you used to sing to me in Afrikaans Daddy? Now it seems you have lost that tong - sitting there on that muddy island has made you an aloof person hey Daddy?
But, the flights of fancy are still the same, shame, Mommy says to let you know you need to take your medicine regularly..
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
09 Nov 2015, 18:43#64
Nice Saffex. Also agree that as an over all assessment of players, the vast majority of that was spot
on. Jantjies should defs have walked into the squad. He was by a serious distance the best SA S15 10 this season.
Again, when you look through that list of names, it's fkin tragic that Meyer had all that time to prepare and yet went to the WC with the team he did. It's a pity we can't play the Lions Cc team against the Boks, just to show how little cohesion HM cultivated.
Sorry Mozart, i dont agree with you though. You pick your BEST team, and then your job as coach is to bring the best out of your best team. You spot cohesive weaknesses and you fix them. As much as I hate to do it I will make an AB comparison. Name any guy in the AB team who shouldn't ha e been there. Pretty tough huh. Yeah people said Carter, Richie McWhoreFace, Nonu etc were long in the tooth and weren't sure about them...but the difference is that they were all playing well. Maybe Carter was a touch average in the lead up. NONE of the Bok question marks had been doing well and some had zero game time. So yes, there is a difference.
You pick your BEST form players. End of.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Nov 2015, 20:53#65
Suit yourself....but if Carter, Nonu, Smith and McCaw were playing for the Boks you would be calling for their replacement. Their form coming into the WC was no better than out vets.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Nov 2015, 01:32#66
Mozart
What form are you talking about? The form of De Villies and Du Preez was non-existent, in the few Super Series Alberts played in he was atrocious. Jannie was bad in the year before on both Super 15 and test level and the least said about Matfield's form (or lack of form) the better it would be.
The same cannot be said about the AB's players mentioned - they never were sub-par in form like the so-called Springbok vets were. What a comparison by a deluded mind whose idea of form is non-existent.
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
10 Nov 2015, 09:39#67
Hey Mozart
I hear ya. But nah, if I look at those 3 players I mentioned. I'd no chance have called for em to be left at home. Yes, hindsight is 20/20 but if we look at each of those guys prior to the WC, they totally deserved their spot. In fact two of the three would be the first two names on the teams sheet. Nonu was a key figure in probably the best attacking club outfit this year. McCaw, i fuuuucking hate him and still believe he is a cheat but i cant remember him having a bad game or going invisible in an AB games in recent history...plus he is their talisman. Carter though...i do agree that I'd have been in two minds about him. Though, considering he is the best 10 that has ever been, according to some, I'd probably not have made too much noise about his inclusion.
Jannie, Ruan, Jean, Fourie, Victor, Willem, Morne...totally different story. These were the guys everyone said should not be there but Meyer knew better. Then surprise surprise...the only one of then who managed anything was Fourie with the try against Wales. And that try was nothing special, though it only seemed so because of the game.situation. A situation we should never hqve been in in the first place.
Then, aside from the obvious ones above, we can look at the less obvious selection blunders. Willie, Brian, Beast, Schalk and a few others. Those guys all have very worthy replacements that I feel, again hindsight is great, would have done a lot better. Let's not forget that Willie almost cost us the Welsh game and Schalk only seemed to play well because he was constantly fed the ball...and failed miserably to make much ground. I wonder if Jaco Kriel had been given this much ball how he'd have done with it. He'd probably be ranked world player of the year, considering Schalk made the RC dream team haha
Dammit, another long post. My bad :/