CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 May 2015, 06:59#41
Not game set and match at all. I put both of the two players in my TOW. Have serious reservations still about Leyds (he had many more flops than successes this tournament) and fact is De Jongh was poor.
24 May 2015, 09:21#42
but the Stormers still won therefore Jongh indirectly is to blame
DEDezertFox
Pro2,288 posts
24 May 2015, 11:25#43
JeromeV, don't waste your time. Video evidence is a gross fabrication of the truth don't ya know?
JEJeromeV
Club Pro492 posts
24 May 2015, 11:25#44
Yep spot on from Mallet there.
Imagine if Willie Le Roux had the same performance as Kolbe yesterday, there would alot more praise going on surrounding Le Roux by the general public although when Kolbe plays very well it's way more quiet by members on this forum and on other forums which is total bias.
I think it's about time Kolbe get's the recognition he deserves, he made a significant difference as to how the team performs this year. Yesterday he was one of the stand out players, effective in attack and good strong defence. Great to watch from the young man.
DEDezertFox
Pro2,288 posts
24 May 2015, 11:38#46
Jerome, when Kirchner was the best fullback in SH in 2013, he too got no credit. Remember, Le Roux was very inaccurate and unreliable at 15 prior to the EOYT that year, but most where going so far as to say, "Even if Willie makes more mistakes than Kirchner I still don't want Kirchner anyway". So, in other words, even if player x plays better than player y, I won't accept player x because I personally dislike him. That's how South Afrcan fans are, unless the media openly supports one over the other.
24 May 2015, 11:42#47
I think SA fans are not the only ones with "Personal" dislikes Lestat LOL I mean for instance take "slow at the base of the scrum George Gregans friend" Justin Marshall.
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 May 2015, 12:50#48
Lestat, Kirshner was exceptional in 2009, but gradually wen downhill since. He was definitely not the best 15 in the SH in 2013, but IMO he was still the best option for the boks. Luckily the gamble with Willie came off.
DEDezertFox
Pro2,288 posts
24 May 2015, 13:07#49
Unfortunately for you, he was the best 15 in the RC that year. He outplayed Dagg and Folau. Kirchner contributed significantly to our attacking game and was very good on defence, just as he was in 2012. He is a Bull though, so you have criticize everything he did, or worse, fabricate events just as Michael has done. Kirchner should still be in the Bok squad, he offers a hard running game that Le Roux doesn't, runs fantastic lines. A nice contrast. Ideally, our best 3 options would be Le Roux, Kirchner and Lambie. You have all bases covered allowing one to revert to any game-plan. Lambie is that safety net for defending the high ball and robbing teams of the ability to win the battle for territory. Kirchner and Willie for attack and directness. If we can field a proper 12, our reliance on Le Roux creating space as an extension of the 10 is dramatically reduced.
JEJeromeV
Club Pro492 posts
24 May 2015, 14:00#50
"JeromeV, don't waste your time. Video evidence is a gross fabrication of the truth don't ya know"?
Lestat, you yourself have used video evidence in the past to get your point across for instance the one about Lambie. It sounds like you are being a hypocrite.
DEDezertFox
Pro2,288 posts
24 May 2015, 17:35#51
A ctually, it sounds like I am quoting CleverMike (AKA 'Sour Grape')
I only the other hand would be more than happy to see your video. Bring it on boet!