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Hougaard is not making progress

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Mar 2014, 00:21
#41
07 Mar 2014, 00:21#41
Morne is not capable of playing it differently for he does not have the skill set. 

Mehrtens was a far better rugby player than Morne ever was, he was similar to Stransky

I am seldom wrong Moz, one certainty is that I have never been wrong when it comes to Morne......how you can find favour in such an ordinary player is beyond me.........but your calls do mirror our conservative SA coaches and approaches.........but I dont take you for being a conservative guy.......but then again I dont really know you do I?
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Mar 2014, 01:20
#42
07 Mar 2014, 01:20#42

 Dave which of your contrary picks has actually made a real difference in Bok rugby....I can't think of one. By contrast there are many flops....just among the centres I count Murray, Olivier, JJ, Whitehead and even Halstead. A parade of flops. Your problem is you try to be a predicting guru ahead of time....it doesn't work. These guys have to prove they have it on the field.....level by level.

 

I would love to have a Carter to pick....but even then I'd like a bit more nerve when the chips are down. Morne isn't a perfect tool for everything....but he is about the best in the world for points with the  boot. You can work with that and work around that. Take Sexton, his pathetic chip kicks gifted the Poms a game the Irish should have won...his missed penalty gifted NZ a game Ireland should have won. Morne rarely makes those mistakes.

 

So until Goosen proves he can kick them from the front of the poles and stay healthy  or Lambie proves he can actually make a diffrence to the attacking game....Morne is the professional choice.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Mar 2014, 11:20
#43
07 Mar 2014, 11:20#43
 

Ah Moz, we are back to this are we………the last time you brought up Olivier, Murray and co, I did speculate that it would not be the last time you brought up these names.

 

 

Not sure why you think you can get away with bringing up this list of centres, for we both know that at no point have I ever selected Olivier, Murray or Whitehead ahead of Jean, Fourie or Frans………so while I might have rated these players as handy back-ups to the incumbents, at no point can they be classified as my failures for I have NEVER selected them ahead of the incumbents.

 

 

As for Halstead, not sure where you dragged that name from, but you have me confused with someone else.

 

 

As for JJ, he has been anything but a failure scoring 4 tries in 9 starts and comprehensively outplaying Conrad Smith in his last test and winning a Bok contract after one season in the picture – hardly the mark of failure now is it?

 

 

As for my calls…….well of late you heard the names of Etzebeth, Steph du Toit, Serfontein, Goosen, Arno Botha etc from me long before they made the grade.

 

 

As for Morne, no he should never have won a single Bok cap given his inability to play an allround game……….there has never been a need to play him given we have had James then, Lambie and Goosen now.

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Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
07 Mar 2014, 12:54
#44
07 Mar 2014, 12:54#44
Morné has another tool, he has a much longer pass than Goosen or Lambie. Everyone talks about running, but what about distribution? The three key things you need in a 10 are decision making (the ability to sum up a situation and take the right option), distribute and kick. Morné is the only 10 in South Africa that has all of those. We don't often have the right structures in place giving Morné options, but he makes the best of what we do give him. Hence then why the heralded alternatives fail when they are given a shot; modern defences are perfectly designed to hault the individual and there is nothing else going on in our attack to work with.

Lambie and Goosen are spectacuar failures. In case you hadn't noticed Saffex, Lambie was key in our biggest loss in New Zealand in 2011. He was given an EOYT and failed, even the imbecilic Peter Dom Villiers gave up on him! Goosen is just a pathetic joke.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Mar 2014, 16:52
#45
07 Mar 2014, 16:52#45

Dave the point is those picks which are now two years old in some cases haven't made the grade, except for Etzebeth. They aren't incumbent Springboks and maybe never will be. And that's the most positive sample you can produce. Your role as rugby's version of Nostradamus is a flop. Which is not to say I could do any better, the variables are hard to predict. Take Arno Botha, he had a solid start for the Boks but given two unexpected injuries, he may never play international rugby.

 

The Boks debate is only real, when we are dealing with fit, test ready players....players who have proven they can contribute against top quality S15 opposition in matches that count.

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