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Huge Lambie hype today in 365

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2015, 13:32
#1
04 Aug 2015, 13:32#1
The Natal spin machine is in full force today for little old Pat. There are actually two articles pumping Pat. How soon we forget the timid display at Cardiff Arms Park. Tragically we are likely to run over the Bumbling Bargies and anybody who plays will be fist in line at the RWC.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Aug 2015, 13:48
#2
04 Aug 2015, 13:48#2

Moz I really don't get what you are so anti Pat for......he is anything but timid and a bloody talented rugby player.


How on earth can you find favour in such an ordinary player like useless Morne but tear into Pat at every opportunity......you make no sense at all.


You always back the crap players......de Jongh springs to mind.......or players well past their sell by date.......Matfield  

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
04 Aug 2015, 14:22
#3
04 Aug 2015, 14:22#3

 "You always back the crap players......de Jongh JJ springs to mind.......
Lambie is a "Class Act"....Moz
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2015, 14:26
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04 Aug 2015, 14:26#4
Yep I always back crap players like Matfield WC final MOM.  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2015, 14:31
#5
04 Aug 2015, 14:31#5
 I may be wrong - but is it still 2007 or iis the date in August 2015?  
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
04 Aug 2015, 14:53
#6
04 Aug 2015, 14:53#6
 Depends on which planet you're from. Do you have a fancy?
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Aug 2015, 14:56
#7
04 Aug 2015, 14:56#7

Um Matfield was good 5 years ago.....utterly useless these days.......big difference



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2015, 15:15
#8
04 Aug 2015, 15:15#8
Uhm.....your pick was Quince Roux......biiiig difference.  
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Aug 2015, 16:01
#9
04 Aug 2015, 16:01#9
Don't lie  
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
04 Aug 2015, 17:30
#10
04 Aug 2015, 17:30#10
 Lambie is very hesitant, he shrinks within to himself under pressure. He can't make decisions and does not have the skills to play attacking rugby. 
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
04 Aug 2015, 17:45
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04 Aug 2015, 17:45#11
 
Best 10 in the country.

About time he took up his rightful spot.


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2015, 17:46
#12
04 Aug 2015, 17:46#12
 The champion of hospital passes at 10 for years now has been Morne.  Reasons are -
*   he stands too deep in the pocket;*   he never attacks the gain line and is ignored by opposition defenders, who all go for and besiege the 12;*   being robotic  he must be told in advance what to do, since he cannot read games and freezes up when he has to change from kicking away inaccurately everything coming his way to passing the ball and his service is consequently slow 
A match-loser par excellence - the Perth test being a typical example.     
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
04 Aug 2015, 17:52
#13
04 Aug 2015, 17:52#13


He's a plodder that kicks everything away aimlessly and with a useless "ooops I forgot to switch the light on" Pienaar on his inside ... well ... need I say more?




MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2015, 18:00
#14
04 Aug 2015, 18:00#14
A year ago you were telling us Boshoff was the best in the country. Even after he blew the CC you were saying the same thing. Now it's Lambie a fullback, who actually has no idea what pattern he should play at 10 as soon as the pressure mounts. 
Carbuncle you are a tonic.
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
04 Aug 2015, 18:06
#15
04 Aug 2015, 18:06#15
 Best 10 in the country? Well we have the most successful and most highly decorated 10 in Morne, and Pollard who has been tormenting defences with his powerful runs. I can barely restrain the laughter! On what basis can anyone conclude that Lambie is the best 10 in the country? 
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
04 Aug 2015, 18:13
#16
04 Aug 2015, 18:13#16
 
Huh??

"barel restrain my laughter"

sounds serious ... is that a condition of some sort ... I'd have it looked at if I were you ...

Oh and Lambie has never had a "defrensive" issue in his life ... whatever that is ...

 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Aug 2015, 18:19
#17
04 Aug 2015, 18:19#17

Um Moz, Lambie is not a fullback......you will find he has played most of his rugby at 10 while filling in here and there at 15.


Lambie is a class 10, up there with the best in the game.


He is not a 15  

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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
04 Aug 2015, 18:22
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04 Aug 2015, 18:22#18
Typing by phone CC, if that's the best you've got then quite honestly you are in a sinking boat. I stand by what I said, even with a s olitary typo. 
DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
04 Aug 2015, 18:25
#19
04 Aug 2015, 18:25#19
 Dave, Lambie's best tests have been at 15. It's all very early discerned, but for a little honesty.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Aug 2015, 21:41
#20
04 Aug 2015, 21:41#20
 Just as Fransie's best position is 15,  yet you fail to see that.  Blinded as much to reality as those you accuse of the same thing... ah well,  good luck with that. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2015, 22:04
#21
04 Aug 2015, 22:04#21
Lambie the mirage that recedes.
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
04 Aug 2015, 22:33
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04 Aug 2015, 22:33#22
Most of u are idiots..Pat lABIE IS THBE4 OST CREATIVE PLAYER THAT WE HAVE ..A GREAT HUGE CHARACTEWR BUT FIGHTS THE POPULACE OF SCUM ...THE JEALOUS BOYS OF LOW BREEDIND..PROBABLY THE BEST HALF WE HAVE EVER HALVED BUT SDADLY ABUSED.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Aug 2015, 23:13
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04 Aug 2015, 23:13#23
Bullshit Fox, Pat's best spot is 10, its not even close......he is up there with the best 10's in the game.
He has never been anything of note at 15 as he hardly plays there.
Pat is a 10 who can play 15, jus t like Frans is a 12 who can play 10 or 15.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Aug 2015, 00:11
#24
05 Aug 2015, 00:11#24
Pat is not a 10.....has never had a convincing full test at 10....and was hopeless most recently against Wales and Italy. A late easy drop saved his blushes against the Poms after a worse touch miss than the one Morne was dropped for....fact.  
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
05 Aug 2015, 00:31
#25
05 Aug 2015, 00:31#25
 And in what way is Frans better at 15? His boot?  Statistically inferior to Kirchner and Aplon for attacking success or defence. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Aug 2015, 01:05
#26
05 Aug 2015, 01:05#26
 Fransie has an impressive record as Bok 15,  against top flight opposition... at 12 he does not.  Simple really. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Aug 2015, 01:12
#27
05 Aug 2015, 01:12#27

Disagree....Frans was superb at 12  in the RWC final. He was superb at 10 last year for the Sharks. He almost singlehandedly beat the Saders when the Sharks were down to 10 men. This year he played little rugby, so admittedly some confirmation of form would be nice.

 

 

His strong point is hand to hand combat, he is not an open field type runner like many modern 15s. He suits 12 and especially 10 better.

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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
05 Aug 2015, 01:18
#28
05 Aug 2015, 01:18#28
 Frans record as 15 had little to do with him. It virtually all comes down to 2009, with a damage limitation gameplan that hinged on the success of Brussow to win penalties at the breakdown and Morne to slot them over. Frans was just a body to tackle and make regulation kicks. He offers far less at 15 than Lambie, and doesn't even have the mentality of a 15. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Aug 2015, 07:17
#29
05 Aug 2015, 07:17#29
 This is standard crap.  Frans may have been good in the 12 position in the WC - but he was not all that good in defense - the Tate break past him to bare in mind.  However, since his return from France in 2012 he was a serious flop at 12 - whether playing for the Springboks or the Sharks.  He was a regular defensive sieve and a nonentity in attacking play. 
Steyn's lack of pace and slow reactions is a fact of life and that will not change.  He was a serious flop in 2013 when his coach said he is not a center at all and dropped him from the Sharks starting line-up.  His only asset in 2014 was his kicking at goal - his defense was shocking and his attacking ability worse - the regular backline saboteur who drove the spectators away from Kings Park like never before.  This year he was shockingly poor as well.  What Disaster saw in him - nobody else saw.   Statements like  "no sign of creating space or strong carries, things Frans has been doing against the best for years"  has been absent from the Steyn repertoire since 2012 and I mean totally absent.  Mozart's excuse is different - he claims that for some reason or another Steyn scares the wits out of opponents, so he does not need to carry balls, defend or do anything else normally associated with performance - his presence is enough.     
If he was to be listed at center in my book the paceless Steyn would end up at 12 behind De Allende, De Villiers, Serfontein, Vorster, Venter and Odendaal.  If De Villiers is out then he is moving up one position in that list.   The day Steyn comes into the picture, Meyer can write off the backline as a performing unit.      
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Aug 2015, 07:31
#30
05 Aug 2015, 07:31#30
 The following is a serious Mozart classic:-
"Disagree....Frans was superb at 12  in the RWC final. He was superb at 10 last year for the Sharks. He almost singlehandedly beat the Saders when the Sharks were down to 10 men. This year he played little rugby, so admittedly some confirmation of form would be nice.   His strong point is hand to hand combat, he is not an open field type runner like many modern 15s. He suits 12 and especially 10 better."
The Sharks were never down to 10 men and Steyn's role in that game was not crucial at all - Slade scored a try with Steyn making no attempt to tackle him - that is a fact as well.   In fact the game was won by Reinach and Jordaan (who had a key role in scoring of the last try).   That kind of statement is standard Mozart BS of course. 
His "strong point is hand-to-hand combat" - whatever that may mean.  De Allende is accused of poor defense - Steyn's defense was worse.   His line breaks and defenders beaten was minimal to the point of non-existence - as it was in 2014.  So what that phase (hand-to-hand combat) in fact means only the writer would know.
This kind of written garbage is meaningless on the field of play - where performance is a requirement - and performance is what is missing from Steyn.        
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
05 Aug 2015, 07:39
#31
05 Aug 2015, 07:39#31
 Michael, inside centres do not need to be fast. None of the best are, and the more fleet footed have all been failures: de Jongh, Quade, Giteau, Damian and a few Saffers whose names barely left an impression on my mind. 
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Aug 2015, 07:41
#32
05 Aug 2015, 07:41#32
 
Danie Gerber was a brilliant 13 ... best in the world ... however that was then ... I seriously doubt he'll be as effective today if given the Protea 13 jersey.

Fat Fransie had an incredible year in 2007 ... a revelation to us all ... filling Jean's boots wasn't an easy task yet he did it beautifully ... at 12 not 15 ... that was then ... he hasn't shown that kind of form since ... not once ... not even close.

We are in the year 2015 now ... that's nearly a decade later ... and you ignorant fools want to bring this pathetic excuse of a rugby player back into the Protea mix???

All this based on what he produced a decade ago?

Have you lost your mind??
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Aug 2015, 07:49
#33
05 Aug 2015, 07:49#33
 
Draad ... so you want to play an old, out of shape Du Preez at 9 and bring Fat Fransie in at 15, right?

Clueless ... completely clueless.

What next ... Gurthro as the Proteas starting loosehead.

Try to catch a wake up will ya??
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
05 Aug 2015, 07:51
#34
05 Aug 2015, 07:51#34
 I am basing this on what he has done the past two years. I have never brought up anything earlier then that, only his critics! 
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
05 Aug 2015, 07:52
#35
05 Aug 2015, 07:52#35
Pat is so talented...it just boggles ones mind that guys who claim to know rugby cannot see this...he has been  the unfortunate victim of conservative mindsets...should have gone overseas like Rory Kockott...we seem to lack insight... we dream of the good ol' days but turn a blind eye when real talent pops up...unfortunately real talent remains silent and suffers being shunted from pillar to post...no pun intended
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Aug 2015, 08:08
#36
05 Aug 2015, 08:08#36
 
And what pray tell has Fat Fransie produced in the last 2 years that warrants selection?

He was chalked up as the one single player who gave more possession away in contact than anyone else ... does that qualify him for Protea selection?

He played for the Barbarians a few years back and in an attempt to become the hero he duffed a drop kick from his own 10 yard line so badly that he dug a divet out of the pitch as though he was using a wedge for his approach shot to the green.

Does that qualify him for Protea selection?

I have seen him throw a quick lineout ball directly to Kevin Mealamu in the dying seconds of a test match only for Mealamu to go over and score under the posts.

Does that qualify him for Protea selection?

If so ... then you my fooli sh little friend are welcome to him.


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generaltitPro3,164 posts
05 Aug 2015, 08:38
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05 Aug 2015, 08:38#37
Hey guys...ease off negative comments on Francois during this extremely delicate time in his life...be sensitive and show some respect...a matter in hand is far more difficult to handle than most of us could bear...som e of you guys are insensitive morons
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Aug 2015, 08:42
#38
05 Aug 2015, 08:42#38
 
Sebastien ... do me a favour and go save your hypocritical lecture for someone who's interested in what you have to say.

Thanks!!

 
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
05 Aug 2015, 08:54
#39
05 Aug 2015, 08:54#39
Theres nothing hypocritical in being sensitive to your fellow human beings...don't try and be the tough man behind the keyboard CC, show some respect...there's a time and a place for everything...no big deal...just the way normal decent people should behave and you are out of line and be man and admit it.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Aug 2015, 09:58
#40
05 Aug 2015, 09:58#40
 
Not a tough guy at all ... just tired of your holy joe, self righteous horseshyte.

You seriously think you can come aboard here and give us lectures on how to behave, how to speak, what to say ...

Hmmmm??

Who appointed you??

In the mean time back at the ranch ... what is it that you're getting up to Sebastien?

Did you get drunk over the weekend and slap your wife about?

Did you meet a man and go back to his place for a little discreet one on one?

Huh?

Yet when Sunday comes you're voice can be heard above all the others, shouting out your amens and hallelujahs.

Do me a favour ... just shut your pie hole before I shut it for you ... Kapeesh??







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