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Jacque Fourie - A call from Meyer

Started by clevermike4 REPLIES312 VIEWS· 06 Jul 2015, 15:11
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Jul 2015, 15:11
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06 Jul 2015, 15:11#1

The following from News24:-


"A call from Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer led to centre Jaque Fourie reconsidering his international future.  The 32-year-old, who plays his club rugby for the Kobelco Steelers in Japan, retired from international rugby last year.


But a call from Meyer earlier this year led to a change of heart and Fourie is now eyeing the Rugby World Cup in England and Wales later this year.


At present, he is not fit enough for the rigours of international rugby and has been put on a rigid training programme to regain top fitness levels.

“Me and my family were set to fly back to Japan this week,” Fourie told Netwerk24 last week. “We’ve had a wonderful holiday of about four months here - and I was ready to start training for the new Japanese season. Then Heyneke phoned me and asked if we could chat.


“He told me he had the luxury of a big group of experienced players from which he could pick and that he would like to consider me. He gave me the assurance that they would discuss it with my club, the Kobelco Steelers, because I actually promised my club that I had retired from international rugby.


Nevertheless, the drawcard of a fourth World Cup is a strong one. Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought it would be possible.”

Fourie played 72 Tests for the Springboks after making his debut against Uruguay at the 2003 Rugby World Cup in Australia.

His last Test was against France in Paris in November 2013.


Is Meyer a bloody fool - or not?   First of all during the 2013 tests Fourie at the age of 31  was without doubt not a house on fire.  His pace was  gone - he made zero impact in attacking play and players ran around him at speed - while he made tackles of those players he managed to get to.   That was by far not a real motivation for future selection.


Fourie did not play rugby for 4 months and when he arrived at the Springbok training camp he was in shocking physical condition.   Now he must get back into some form and the question is - is he at the age of 33 ever going into even the questionable condition he was at the age of 31 in 2013?


Now for the real question - did Meyer know anything about Fourie's performances over the past year and what could be expected  from him on higher level.  This is the type of thing that makes Meyer looks like a real fool in rugby terms - falling back on reputation only in making tea m and squad selection.     

 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Jul 2015, 15:25
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06 Jul 2015, 15:25#2
 I looked at the comments on the article in News24 and  it is clear that virtually all  commentators believe that Meyer has made a fool of himself in this case.  
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KalaedFreddieClub Pro495 posts
06 Jul 2015, 15:44
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06 Jul 2015, 15:44#3
 Does not send the correct message to the young guys trying hard to fill that spot.  Meyer is quite intent on selecting players based on historic performances.  Yes, we know JF scored 32 tries in a green and gold jumper, but that was some time ago.  
{{At present, he is not fit enough for the rigours of international rugby and has been put on a rigid training programme to regain top fitness levels.}}
Sheet!  You pick a player who is not even fit, never mind form and playing condition.  Yes, the experience is needed to coach / mentor the young incumbents but if you pick this way and you end up with a Springbok Legends team you are bound to get your ass kicked from here to December.
But, there may be method to the madness - we need to wait and see..
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
06 Jul 2015, 16:21
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06 Jul 2015, 16:21#4
 Meyer is sending the right message. The youngsters are inadequate to the point where they will never be good enough for test rugby. South Africa is historically weak at centre, but the current gen are the worst I have ever seen. We have this weird hybrid that is too small for 12 lacking in power and hardiness and/or too immobile and devoid of skills for 13. We've never had so many wing to centre converts in the history of Bok rugby, why? Meyer has tried nearly 10 players at 13 and the best statistically have been Fourie, JP and Jean (and I'm by no means a fan of the latter two, it's just a fact). Meyer is going to where he can get production. The only thing I disagree with is if he starts ahead of Damian. Damian deserves a shot in the RC as the starting 13. But if he falters then by all means Fourie.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Jul 2015, 16:36
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06 Jul 2015, 16:36#5
 Desert Disaster
You like to wroite BS on this site.  Lets take the following:-
"and the best statistically have been Fourie"
From an attacking perspective Fourie was second from the bottom of the pile - with only De Jongh being worst in the tests he played.   From a defending perspective the problem was for the paceless Fourie to get to ball carriers - when he did he managed to make all his tackles - but players he could not get to was just allowed to carry on.  That was in 2013 when the guy was 31.  He turned up at the Boks in shocking physical condition and whether he will ever at 33 years of age get fit enough to play is another question.   Probably the worst recall Meyer has made.
The present crop of centers looks quite good.  De Allende is outstanding and of the younger lot Vorster looks a great in the making.   The worst center we had playing in 2012 was Frans Steyn and Juan de Jongh - and both was presumably the reason for your following comment:-
"South Africa is historically weak at centre, but the current gen are the worst I have ever seen."
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