Pro2,288 posts
01 Jun 2015, 16:29
#41
01 Jun 2015, 16:29#41
A guinea pig is small. Like Lambie, and equally fuzzy. And they both sit deep in a pocket.
Jantjies loses his bottle
Started by Mozart82 REPLIES1,151 VIEWS· 30 May 2015, 23:21
Captain30,741 posts
01 Jun 2015, 17:10
#42
01 Jun 2015, 17:10#42
Spot on Flash but these clowns cant see the obvious or better still are stuck in a time warp.
Right now Jantjies is better than Lambie at his best, that is how good Jantjies is right now. For me he is our best 10 right now, his gift at unleashing his outside backs is second to none. Pollard is more direct but he does not have the deft touches that Jantjies has.
The lad is on fire, has such great attacking vision......something he has always had but he has always fallen under conservative coaches incapable of getting the best out of him.
Ackers and know have extracted the best out of him.....he is a sublime talent......the kind of player you love to watch.
Pro2,288 posts
01 Jun 2015, 17:19
#43
01 Jun 2015, 17:19#43
"Right now Jantjies is better than Lambie at his best, that is how good Jantjies is right now."
Aren't you supposed to be canvasing Jantjies. Or are you being sarcastic? I'm genuinely confuddled, LOL.
Aren't you supposed to be canvasing Jantjies. Or are you being sarcastic? I'm genuinely confuddled, LOL.
Captain30,741 posts
01 Jun 2015, 17:33
#44
01 Jun 2015, 17:33#44
What part are you struggling with dumbass or is English your second language?
Captain49,914 posts
01 Jun 2015, 18:53
#45
01 Jun 2015, 18:53#45
Jantjies has had a good year..no question. He is a big part of the Lions success. But that was true in 2012 or was it 2013 as well. Then he imploded under pressure at the Stormers.
So his ability to perform under pressure is his big hurdle. Saturday was not remarkable, except insofar as he played well, but didn't look good under pressure.
He has certainly improved his tackling this year, and he threw that long pass. But so did Beale who also folds under pressure....and Jantjies followed up the good one with a dangerous interception.
The thing is we don't have to worship these guys....they have friends and family to do that. We are tasked with judging them fairly but objectively. Objective criticism is a lot less damaging than losing a big game through a weakness which hasn't been fixed....and many can never be fixed.
So his ability to perform under pressure is his big hurdle. Saturday was not remarkable, except insofar as he played well, but didn't look good under pressure.
He has certainly improved his tackling this year, and he threw that long pass. But so did Beale who also folds under pressure....and Jantjies followed up the good one with a dangerous interception.
The thing is we don't have to worship these guys....they have friends and family to do that. We are tasked with judging them fairly but objectively. Objective criticism is a lot less damaging than losing a big game through a weakness which hasn't been fixed....and many can never be fixed.
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jun 2015, 10:58
#46
02 Jun 2015, 10:58#46
Nope Moz you are wrong, he has matured as a player since 2012 and is physically bigger these days.
Given his year and the confidence he will have gained from it, there will be no going back for Jantjies.
He always had it, just never had a coach who showed faith in him. Ackers has done just that......the mark of a good coach. He recognised what I have always seen in Jantjies and invested in him.
When on Saturday did he not look good under pressure?
Pro3,977 posts
02 Jun 2015, 15:01
#47
02 Jun 2015, 15:01#47
I have been on the fence with Jantjes over the years, but he really has come good this season! He may have flaws, but he has one thing that can not be taught! X-factor! Would I want him taking a pressure kick in the last 10 minutes of a world cup final? N ot so sure.
I can't help but see Quade Cooper when I look at him.
I can't help but see Quade Cooper when I look at him.
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jun 2015, 15:36
#48
02 Jun 2015, 15:36#48
Conservative coaches wont select the likes of Jantjies and Cooper......progressive ones will......that's why NZ keep topping the rankings......mark my word young McKenzie will find his way into the NZ starting side soon......he is another Jantjies/Cooper.
These kind of players are gems, they ignite those around them.......its a gift that cant be taught.
I'm thrilled to say my son plays his rugby at 10 in that fashion
Pro2,288 posts
02 Jun 2015, 15:59
#49
02 Jun 2015, 15:59#49
"I can't help but see Quade Cooper when I look at him. "
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:20
#50
02 Jun 2015, 16:20#50
Conservative twat
Pro2,288 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:25
#51
02 Jun 2015, 16:25#51
No, Cooper costs tests. Just as Jantjies has done. Cooper AKA Flayed Blooper is a disaster. He can pass well technically, but not very good under pressure. Do you see now? Of course not. This is Dave.
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:28
#52
02 Jun 2015, 16:28#52
Your problem is that you are so fucking pathetically conservative and out of touch that you are incapable of acknowledging the fact that both Cooper and Jantjies have long moved on as players.....both now complete and match winners today.......we are talking today you ignorant twat not 2 years ago.
Wake up
Pro2,288 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:29
#53
02 Jun 2015, 16:29#53
Cooper cost the Aussies the Brisbane test last I saw, and has done nothing since. None of the three coaches he has played under rates him. But again, you know better.
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:31
#54
02 Jun 2015, 16:31#54
Bullshit he never cost them the test, that's another lie
Pro2,288 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:40
#55
02 Jun 2015, 16:40#55
Really? Who did a stupid little chip that got run back for a try? Cooper. LMAO! That was the game changer. But don't take my word for it.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/sep/07/south-africa-australia-rugby-championship-match-report
"It was not a great night for Cooper in his long-awaited return to the No10 jersey as he struggled to spark Australia's under-pressure attack.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/sep/07/south-africa-australia-rugby-championship-match-report
"It was not a great night for Cooper in his long-awaited return to the No10 jersey as he struggled to spark Australia's under-pressure attack.
He also gave away the penalty that led to the Springboks storming to
an early lead with the reserve prop Coenie Oosthuizen barging past him
to score in the sixth minute.
Israel Folau's move to full-back failed to reap the rewards expected
as the game-breaker was often ignored out wide, while the Boks
impressive loose-forwards also forced a first-half penalty goal by
trapping him after a kick-return."
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jun 2015, 17:22
#56
02 Jun 2015, 17:22#56
Its says nothing about him losing the test for them you twit - for it never happened
Pro2,288 posts
02 Jun 2015, 17:26
#57
02 Jun 2015, 17:26#57
So according to you having a hand in two Bok tries and stuttering on attack trying to "feel creative" in no way contributed to the Aussies loss? Hell, you blame More for things he didn't do, but now Cooper is to absolved from blame? Bias. Change the goal posts when it suits you, soyou are never wrong, LMAO!!!!
Captain18,117 posts
02 Jun 2015, 18:38
#58
02 Jun 2015, 18:38#58
Dave, this is the blithering idiot who reckons Zane Kirchner is a world-class fullback and Morne Steyn is a visionary and talented flyhalf. He also reckons Pat Lambie is not even Currie Cup class, Jean de Villiers is not a centre while Richie McCaw has never been one of the top 5 fetchers in the world at any stage of his career.
Are you surprised that he thinks Quade Cooper is crap?
Don't know why you bother with this clown. Just leave him to make a fool of himself and have a good laugh at his expense. That's what I do.
Are you surprised that he thinks Quade Cooper is crap?
Don't know why you bother with this clown. Just leave him to make a fool of himself and have a good laugh at his expense. That's what I do.
Coach57,555 posts
02 Jun 2015, 19:59
#59
02 Jun 2015, 19:59#59
Rooinek the top cherry on the cake is Letsal berating Folau as a full back.
Let me be quite frank. jantjies at the Stormers was crap and his performance in the 2013 test dented his image and he lost a lot of confidence as a result. In 2014 Super 15 he did play a limited number of games since Marnitz Boshoff was the prefered flyhalf of Ackerman.
However, he did flourish in Super 15 this year and really was good. I hate to attack a player because of one match - but he factually was below par. Those three penalties missed one after another was not a good sign. Another poor sign was his four possession losses.
I think he had a bad day at the office and that happens to all players - look no further than Folau on Saturday. However, the problem centers around those three missed penalties where he was clearly nervous. The problem is that some doubt has been created as to his state of mind in crunch matches? Is he going to be nervous when the pressure is on? That shows a mental deficiency and it bothers me quite substantially. How would Meyer view what happened on Saturday - bearing in mind Jantjies past history. One would never know - but I have a feeling that M eyer may have developed doubts about Jantjies.
Let me be quite frank. jantjies at the Stormers was crap and his performance in the 2013 test dented his image and he lost a lot of confidence as a result. In 2014 Super 15 he did play a limited number of games since Marnitz Boshoff was the prefered flyhalf of Ackerman.
However, he did flourish in Super 15 this year and really was good. I hate to attack a player because of one match - but he factually was below par. Those three penalties missed one after another was not a good sign. Another poor sign was his four possession losses.
I think he had a bad day at the office and that happens to all players - look no further than Folau on Saturday. However, the problem centers around those three missed penalties where he was clearly nervous. The problem is that some doubt has been created as to his state of mind in crunch matches? Is he going to be nervous when the pressure is on? That shows a mental deficiency and it bothers me quite substantially. How would Meyer view what happened on Saturday - bearing in mind Jantjies past history. One would never know - but I have a feeling that M eyer may have developed doubts about Jantjies.
Captain49,914 posts
02 Jun 2015, 22:57
#60
02 Jun 2015, 22:57#60
We will continue to have people talking up perennial failures like Quade Copper and Beale, until they finally stop talking them up. The reality is these are high variance players, but they lose far more matches than they win.
Coach57,555 posts
02 Jun 2015, 23:06
#61
02 Jun 2015, 23:06#61
We will continue to have people talking up perennial failures like Morne and Francois Steyn, until they finally stop talking them up. The reality is these are low capacity variant players, but they lose far more matches than they win.
Captain49,914 posts
02 Jun 2015, 23:09
#62
02 Jun 2015, 23:09#62
"Variant" ......haha ...whoosh.
Pro9,374 posts
03 Jun 2015, 01:12
#63
03 Jun 2015, 01:12#63
A Variant of course.
Captain49,914 posts
03 Jun 2015, 02:00
#64
03 Jun 2015, 02:00#64
Glad to see you back Vlag.
Coach57,555 posts
03 Jun 2015, 03:34
#65
03 Jun 2015, 03:34#65
You arr just as dumb as ever. With variant was meant that the two players mentioned are a variant of rugby players. They grew into the variant of utterly useless players pretending classified by idiots as being capable of playing international rugby - but not successfully so.
O Dofdoos - are you back from self-exile. Only Snakesh!t and Letsalbemorons missed you - without you this Board only had to take into account he two superliars and deceivers mentioned.
Now it seems to be back to the BSting Three Dofdose. What a spectacle of lies and deceit.
O Dofdoos - are you back from self-exile. Only Snakesh!t and Letsalbemorons missed you - without you this Board only had to take into account he two superliars and deceivers mentioned.
Now it seems to be back to the BSting Three Dofdose. What a spectacle of lies and deceit.
Pro9,374 posts
03 Jun 2015, 09:56
#66
03 Jun 2015, 09:56#66
clevermike
RE: Jantjies loses his bottle
June 03, 2015, 03:34:38 You arr just as dumb as ever. With variant was meant that the two players mentioned are a variant of rugby players. They grew into the variant of utterly useless players pretending classified by idiots as being capable of playing international rugby - but not successfully so.
O Dofdoos - are you back from self-exile. Only Snakesh!t and Letsalbemorons missed you - without you this Board only had to take into account he two superliars and deceivers mentioned.
Now it seems to be back to the BSting Three Dofdose. What a spectacle of lies and deceit.
You are the ultimate example, idiot. Let me mention one example. You have said elsewhere (on the thread where you were bleating to Ed again, like an old woman who is giving birth to a roll of barbed wire):
"Draad
I have apologized to him THREE times about what I wrote about his father and was hoping that was settled......"
You know, and I know that that is just another bag of BS. Your exact "apology" boiled down to: "I apologise for mentioning your father". That does not mean that you have apologised for saying that he had only one braincell and was only good enough to be a guard at an asylum.
Having said that, I cannot be bothered if you decide not to respond to this and I can also not be bother whether you do apologise or not. I just don't give a sh!t. Just don't f'king lie about it. Fact is that you are not interested in offering any apology, because then you would have done so in the first place. Better still, if you were anywhere near decent you would not have put it out there in the first place, but you are too much of a lowlife sc.umbag. Thank heavens I do not have a plank like you in my family or circle of friends.
RE: Jantjies loses his bottle
June 03, 2015, 03:34:38 You arr just as dumb as ever. With variant was meant that the two players mentioned are a variant of rugby players. They grew into the variant of utterly useless players pretending classified by idiots as being capable of playing international rugby - but not successfully so.
O Dofdoos - are you back from self-exile. Only Snakesh!t and Letsalbemorons missed you - without you this Board only had to take into account he two superliars and deceivers mentioned.
Now it seems to be back to the BSting Three Dofdose. What a spectacle of lies and deceit.
You are the ultimate example, idiot. Let me mention one example. You have said elsewhere (on the thread where you were bleating to Ed again, like an old woman who is giving birth to a roll of barbed wire):
"Draad
I have apologized to him THREE times about what I wrote about his father and was hoping that was settled......"
You know, and I know that that is just another bag of BS. Your exact "apology" boiled down to: "I apologise for mentioning your father". That does not mean that you have apologised for saying that he had only one braincell and was only good enough to be a guard at an asylum.
Having said that, I cannot be bothered if you decide not to respond to this and I can also not be bother whether you do apologise or not. I just don't give a sh!t. Just don't f'king lie about it. Fact is that you are not interested in offering any apology, because then you would have done so in the first place. Better still, if you were anywhere near decent you would not have put it out there in the first place, but you are too much of a lowlife sc.umbag. Thank heavens I do not have a plank like you in my family or circle of friends.
Coach57,555 posts
03 Jun 2015, 10:10
#67
03 Jun 2015, 10:10#67
Ceradyne
OK - I apologise for saying "that he had only one braincell and was only good enough to be a guard at an asylum."
Not knowing him I under-estimated his abilities - which I should not have done. That was due to what I observe being your abilities and I wrongly assumed "die appel het nie ver van die boom geval nie" . That being said - welcome back from self-exile - it may have just happened that you did learn a minor percentage about rugby performance - some like 0.000001% would be a massive improvement on the same percentage you used to display.
OK - I apologise for saying "that he had only one braincell and was only good enough to be a guard at an asylum."
Not knowing him I under-estimated his abilities - which I should not have done. That was due to what I observe being your abilities and I wrongly assumed "die appel het nie ver van die boom geval nie" . That being said - welcome back from self-exile - it may have just happened that you did learn a minor percentage about rugby performance - some like 0.000001% would be a massive improvement on the same percentage you used to display.
Captain30,741 posts
03 Jun 2015, 10:19
#68
03 Jun 2015, 10:19#68
You are right Rooi, I cant be bothered responding to the utterly rugby ignorant Lestat......I give up on him.
I mean he thinks de Wet Barry was great and Etzebeth is poor.....add that to your list
Pro9,374 posts
03 Jun 2015, 10:21
#69
03 Jun 2015, 10:21#69
You just cannot help yourself, can you?
I had no doubt in my mind that, if there was any apology at all, it would never be an unconditional one. I was always expecting it to be heavily loaded with "ifs" and "buts" and that you would be trying find a way to exonerate yourself.
I had no doubt in my mind that, if there was any apology at all, it would never be an unconditional one. I was always expecting it to be heavily loaded with "ifs" and "buts" and that you would be trying find a way to exonerate yourself.
Pro3,977 posts
03 Jun 2015, 10:21
#70
03 Jun 2015, 10:21#70
Cera, have you never told a yo mamma joke before? Did you ever consider that maybe the mother of the person you were telling to had passed away? Surely Mike would not have made a joking insult involving your old man had he known he had passed away! I can't remember the insult exactly, but as I remember it, it was just a run of the mill type insult that get flung around all the time, not meant to be taken literally! I mean, if insults were taken literally, Moz would actually be a mof fie, you'd actually be a stupid v@gina (in afrika@ns), my balls would actually be blue, etc etc. Just to be very clear, I don't mean to offend you in any way, I just think you are taking this insult by Mike way too seriously, after all, he is just a poster you have never met on a random forum.
Pro3,977 posts
03 Jun 2015, 10:26
#71
03 Jun 2015, 10:26#71
Bwahahaha! I typed my post before I had read Mikes reply. Mike, you really are not making your defense any easier!!!
Coach57,555 posts
03 Jun 2015, 10:45
#72
03 Jun 2015, 10:45#72
Dave
The answer is easy - leave the three village idiots to carry on amongst themselves to see who would be the biggest fool amongst the 3 of them and laugh at what they produce.
The answer is easy - leave the three village idiots to carry on amongst themselves to see who would be the biggest fool amongst the 3 of them and laugh at what they produce.
Captain18,117 posts
03 Jun 2015, 10:49
#73
03 Jun 2015, 10:49#73
Typical Ceradunce, can't even accept an apology with any grace.
Moffie and Ceradunce are both complete hypocrites. They spend all day every day running ou Maaik down, insulting him and calling him a liar in the most derogatory and obsessive manner . . . and when ou Maaik gives it back to them then they get all self-righteous and indignant.
A few weeks ago a tearful Ceradunce said "to hell with these forums" and disappeared. I wonder what's changed that made him return . . . makes you wonder how often the poor little dear read this forum with his little lower lip quivering wondering why no-one was missing him or talking about him! LMAO!
Oh well, at least Moffie will be happy to have one of his Gimps back . . . and it's painfully obvious that the pompous and feeble-minded old windbag needs the support!
Moffie and Ceradunce are both complete hypocrites. They spend all day every day running ou Maaik down, insulting him and calling him a liar in the most derogatory and obsessive manner . . . and when ou Maaik gives it back to them then they get all self-righteous and indignant.
A few weeks ago a tearful Ceradunce said "to hell with these forums" and disappeared. I wonder what's changed that made him return . . . makes you wonder how often the poor little dear read this forum with his little lower lip quivering wondering why no-one was missing him or talking about him! LMAO!
Oh well, at least Moffie will be happy to have one of his Gimps back . . . and it's painfully obvious that the pompous and feeble-minded old windbag needs the support!
Coach57,555 posts
03 Jun 2015, 10:51
#74
03 Jun 2015, 10:51#74
bluebok
Pro9,374 posts
03 Jun 2015, 12:00
#75
03 Jun 2015, 12:00#75
@Bluebok. First of all, I never expected Mike to apologise. Not once. The reason is simple. I have come to know him as someone who does not believe that he can ever be wrong. His justification for making the remarks is proof enough. Someone else told him that it would be the right thing to do and then he said: "OK, I apologise for mentioning his dad".
Fact is that it does not matter if your dad is alive or has passed away. I will never tell, and has never told someone, that his father (dead or still alive) only has/had one braincell and that he is/was only good enough to be a guard at an asylum. To brush it aside as a tongue in cheek remark is BS, because there was nothing tongue in cheek, from MIke's side in the discussion at the time. I said something that was genuinly tongue in cheek and which was a remark that my dad also used to make. I did nit believe something that Mike has said and I said: "Ja, Mike. En my pa is die pous". That was when Mike came up with the braincell story. He was p!ssed of because I did not believe him.
Then again, if you are OK with someone making snide remarks about your parents, then so be it. You would probably not see anything wrong with what has happened.
As for Rooinek's stance on it. He obviously thinks that it is quite OK, which puts him, IMO, in the same bracket as Mike and anybody else who thinks that it is OK to slag off other's family and their parents in particular. In my books, I draw the line at insulting someone's parents and family. That is a no-go and I would not do that. Not even to Mike and/or Rooinek.
Fact is that it does not matter if your dad is alive or has passed away. I will never tell, and has never told someone, that his father (dead or still alive) only has/had one braincell and that he is/was only good enough to be a guard at an asylum. To brush it aside as a tongue in cheek remark is BS, because there was nothing tongue in cheek, from MIke's side in the discussion at the time. I said something that was genuinly tongue in cheek and which was a remark that my dad also used to make. I did nit believe something that Mike has said and I said: "Ja, Mike. En my pa is die pous". That was when Mike came up with the braincell story. He was p!ssed of because I did not believe him.
Then again, if you are OK with someone making snide remarks about your parents, then so be it. You would probably not see anything wrong with what has happened.
As for Rooinek's stance on it. He obviously thinks that it is quite OK, which puts him, IMO, in the same bracket as Mike and anybody else who thinks that it is OK to slag off other's family and their parents in particular. In my books, I draw the line at insulting someone's parents and family. That is a no-go and I would not do that. Not even to Mike and/or Rooinek.
Captain18,117 posts
03 Jun 2015, 14:47
#76
03 Jun 2015, 14:47#76
Stop dodging the question, Ceradunce. What changed on this forum that made you come back after your tearful little "to hell with these forums" tantrum?
I'm only asking because whatever change was made, I will campaign for it to be put back like it was!
I'm only asking because whatever change was made, I will campaign for it to be put back like it was!
Pro9,905 posts
03 Jun 2015, 14:59
#77
03 Jun 2015, 14:59#77
Oh boy!!
I see nothing's changed here.
Family members still being targeted. Overly sensitive posters wanting to leave because of it.
"Sniff" ... "sniff"
Sounds like Mike's become the meany on this site.
Bout time if you ask me.
Pro3,977 posts
03 Jun 2015, 15:07
#78
03 Jun 2015, 15:07#78
Heeeey, welcome back CC!!! Your absence has been noticed by a few people. Good to see you back!
Captain18,117 posts
03 Jun 2015, 15:12
#79
03 Jun 2015, 15:12#79
Knowing Klown and his dislike of political correctness, I can only imagine what he would have had to say on the homophobia threads!
Yes, welcome back Klown. As crap as I've been in the S15 testrugby comp this year, it's some consolation that I'm still ahead of the Hapless Giants!
Yes, welcome back Klown. As crap as I've been in the S15 testrugby comp this year, it's some consolation that I'm still ahead of the Hapless Giants!
Pro9,905 posts
03 Jun 2015, 15:32
#80
03 Jun 2015, 15:32#80
Thanks Blue ... good to know I'm missed ... by at least you.
Haaaaaaaahahahahahaha ... indeed Redneck. Had a few personal issues to attend to.
Wow ... a special thread just for those who like putting from the rough??? Can it be? Let me guess ... Mozart and Pakie had much to say ... right?
All in favour of buggery. Sick!!!
What's happened to the incredible form of last year? I seem to have kept up with you.
No matter ... can't win em all ... all the time.
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