BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Jun 2015, 21:53#2
Juan was pretty awful. How he gets to captain the side ahead of Schalk Burger says it all.Will Juan survive a new coach coming on board? Senatla was also very quiet and the try scored by Leyds when the Lions had Hollenbach down disguised a poor afternoons work.
No wonder the Stormers have scored the second least tries.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Jun 2015, 21:58#3
Leyds was great, Kolbe was great....de Jongh was quiet, but saved the game. I have no doubt any competent new coach will see the value of these terrific players. I mean ffs, you are a Taute fan Hasbeen. You just have no clue about back play.
DEDenny
Captain12,893 posts
07 Jun 2015, 00:39#4
Leyds is athletic and work in progress. By South African standards he did some great work, the kind of things we see from Oz and Kiwi backline players.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jun 2015, 00:52#5
This kid has been tarred and feathered every week on the site....and by and large he has been impressive.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jun 2015, 05:30#7
Juan was quiet - because Vorster played the fool with him. Fact is that is what I really expected in that game.
The Stormers could not possibly win that game with Coleman at flyhalf. Coetzee is a flipping idiot picking Coleman at flyhalf and he was repaid by Coleman missing two kicks at goal - one a conversion of a try - which should have have been kicked - and the other a penalty straight in front of the goalposts. He should have seen it coming after Coleman missed all those kicks in the Waratahs - and then a repeat in the Lions game.
Mozart is the one-eyed idiot - what about the ball ripped out of De Jongh's hands when he was being tackled earlier in the game. He talks about the second case and conveniently kept quiet about the first.
Vorster completely over-shadowed De Jongh in the game - much as I feared would happen.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jun 2015, 13:32#8
Okay Liarmike.....show me where "Vorster played the fool with him". Time stamp any incident in the game where Vorster got the better of de Jongh.......and while you are about it time stamp any incidents where Vorster made better contributions than de Jongh's match saving strip and de Jongh's excellent try scoring pass to Leyds. No diversions now, stick to de Jongh and Vorster. You brought it up and t he floor is yours....
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jun 2015, 14:54#9
Have look at the stats - Snakesh!t - and tell me who was the better 13 on the day:-
de Jongh0/100/2/318100210/00/000/0
Vorster0/002/2/95335116/20/010/0
The one was a real participant in attack - the other one a passenger. And both played at 13.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jun 2015, 15:33#10
No diversions....time stamp where Vorster played the fool with de Jongh....go ahead big mouth. You will find those defenders beaten include Coleman in the last move and several forwards. And whats with his 25% of tackles missed? Go ahead you made the claim he played the fool with de Jongh, back it up.
DEDezertFox
Pro2,288 posts
07 Jun 2015, 16:10#11
Looking at the stats, Damian was clearly suppressed. Certainly in terms of production, the least present of the two Stormers centres. But that had no influence on the game, of course.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jun 2015, 16:46#12
Vorster broke past his direct opponent 3 times - and the latter did nothing to try and stop him. De Jongh was that piss-poor defender and that is a fact.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jun 2015, 17:11#13
Gee I guess thats why de Jongh made 10 out of 10 tackles. You are a foul liar Mike a good example of why the country's standards are dropping.
The fact that anybody on this Board takes you seriously is puzzling.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jun 2015, 17:35#14
Who did Vorster ran past without the useless De Jongh even attempting tackles? Must have been someone else who played at 13 opposite Vorster. Vorster ran over and past De Jongh twice and that was not recorded as tackle attempts.
I know for a fact nobody takes your mania about Matfield, Fransie and Morne seriously so what else is new.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jun 2015, 19:40#15
It was not recorded, because it's a lie Tokkie. Lies don't usually make it into the stats.
AGAgPleezDeddy
Club Pro900 posts
AGAgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
07 Jun 2015, 19:45#16
Agreed on Leyds, improves every game I see him play
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jun 2015, 05:34#17
So Mozart true to form use stats to prove something and ignores them when it does not fit his book. Deceitful as per normal with him.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Jun 2015, 12:34#18
de Jongh was the worst 13 of all the SA 13's on the weekend......did nothing of note as always......JJ, Frans Venter and Vorster were all better.......in particular Venter and Vorster
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jun 2015, 12:54#19
Nothing of note? He saved the game by ripping the ball away when the Lions were about to score and made a spectacular pass to get Leyds over the line.....he was worth 14 points. What did Vorster actually contribute?
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jun 2015, 13:40#23
But he was worth 14 points and had the best defensive stats..... while JJ and Vorster couldn't make their tackles.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jun 2015, 22:13#25
Yes he was worth 14 points...literally, a try saved... a try scored down to Juan.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jun 2015, 14:43#27
Your bias is a new form of the affliction....it leads to blindness.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Jun 2015, 15:52#28
Nope I just know for a fact de Jongh added very little value with ball in hand......the stats prove just that......your support of this little guy is as bad as your blind faith in useless Adi Jacobs......you really have no idea do you?
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Jun 2015, 21:53#31
So you say....but the facts are completel y the opposite. Olivier was a match loser as we saw in the third Lions test.
DEDezertFox
Pro2,288 posts
11 Jun 2015, 01:08#32
Adi was a spectacular failure, I did my first video review on him. But this becomes a moot point when you label JJ the best 13 since readmission! Or when you back the likes of Murry.
DEDezertFox
Pro2,288 posts
11 Jun 2015, 01:08#33
Adi was a spectacular failure, I did my first video review on him. But this becomes a moot point when you label JJ the best 13 since readmission! Or when you back the likes of Murry.