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Josh Strauss

Started by bluebok20 REPLIES437 VIEWS· 02 Jun 2015, 16:04
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BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:04
#1
02 Jun 2015, 16:04#1

I see Josh Strauss has been included in the Scottish World Cup squad. Glad he'll get to play at the World Cup, but I bet he'd give his left nut to be doing so for South Africa and not Scotland.  


I wonder if he would even have had a chance in SA with our depth in the loosies? 



DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:05
#2
02 Jun 2015, 16:05#2
"I wonder if he would even have had a chance in SA with our depth in the loosies?"

No.
BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:11
#3
02 Jun 2015, 16:11#3
I am not so sure L. He was one of very few standout players in an under performing Lions team.  It is often very difficult to blossom in a team the is not performing. I think he may well have been a different player if he had played for a more competitive franchise. 

DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:12
#4
02 Jun 2015, 16:12#4
He was a leader, he was an example to the team, he played well. But he was well short of being a Bok. It's nothing personal. A t least he gets to taste test rugby, so he got what he didn't deserve at the Boks, he should be very grateful.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:30
#5
02 Jun 2015, 16:30#5
At his best he had Bok standard written all over him......great leader and great player  
OI
oimateyPro1,870 posts
02 Jun 2015, 22:16
#6
02 Jun 2015, 22:16#6
This from Scottish coach about the inclusion of Strauss and WP Nel:

" The selection of non-native Scots has long proved a contentious issue for Scottish rugby but Cotter is not worried about the Tartan Springboks having split-loyalties before facing their homeland in their third Pool B clash on October 3. He said: "I am happy to see these two players pull on a jersey and play for Scotland because I think they want to and I think they deserve to.

"Just look at Josh for Glasgow at the weekend. He was outstanding. WP's children were born in Scotland. When you talk to these players they are very passionate about this being their country. This is where they live now. I think they will add value to the team. If it's going to make this team perform well, that's a good thing."

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,285 posts
02 Jun 2015, 23:09
#7
02 Jun 2015, 23:09#7
He was part of our endless supply of loose forwards. Could have had a few good Bok games but he would probably be not much more than a place holder
Flashdakota
FlashdakotaClub Pro805 posts
02 Jun 2015, 23:34
#8
02 Jun 2015, 23:34#8
Who rememebers that swan dive belly flop try that WP scored a few years ago in the SXV?
I have never laughed so much in all my life.
Coenie also scored in the same match if i remember.


Regarding Josh. Great leader. It was under his leadership along with Mitch that the Lions began their upward curve. It would have been great to have still had him around to revel in the hard work put in back in 2012 / 2013.

As for him being Bok material... yes..
As for him being a starter, no. Probably not now. He'd be behind Duane and Warren in my opinion.

We have so much depth.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Jun 2015, 10:24
#9
03 Jun 2015, 10:24#9

Agreed Flash, he was test material, but not ahead of Vermeulen.


Whiteley lacks the physicality to make a regular test 8, great player but probably 5kg too light  

HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
04 Jun 2015, 01:04
#10
04 Jun 2015, 01:04#10
Intelligent player
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Jun 2015, 01:18
#11
04 Jun 2015, 01:18#11
Second rate.....really a  provincial player with a first rate beard and a bunch of groupies demanding he be made a Bok. 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Jun 2015, 11:00
#12
04 Jun 2015, 11:00#12
Moz as rugby ignorant as ever......surprise, surprise  
DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
04 Jun 2015, 13:08
#13
04 Jun 2015, 13:08#13
 Even when Duane was a very plain player, a Spies clone, he still outshone Strauss. Heck so did Spies himself, and a lot of other players. He was like Wikus van Heerden used to be for the Lions, a leader who was an okay player, but never really going to stake a serious claim at test level. But minus the fandom created by the media and gullible sheeple to eat it all up.
BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
04 Jun 2015, 13:18
#14
04 Jun 2015, 13:18#14
L, I may stand alone on this, but I think Wickus Van Heerden was one of the most underrated Springboks ever! 
DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
04 Jun 2015, 13:21
#15
04 Jun 2015, 13:21#15
 He was very good, but high up the pecking order.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Jun 2015, 13:45
#16
04 Jun 2015, 13:45#16

No Dave, not ignorant. Spot on and independent in my thinking. They used to encourage that in the universities, now it seems you have to be a lemming. Which is of course exactly what you are....a flavour of the day lemming.

 

Strauss was more beard than rugby player....like most of our exiles he will in all probability not even be an NH regular. We are always warned about the loss of players to other countries.

 

 

Name one player other than De Villiers the French prop who has meant a damn in NH test rugby?

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Jun 2015, 15:19
#17
04 Jun 2015, 15:19#17

No Moz completely bloody ignorant, for he is a damn fine player, as good as any international loosie out there.


He proved that week after week for the Lions......most of your calls are poor they mirror the same poor calls Meyer makes......conservatism rules.  


There have not been many of our players that have actually qualified to play for other sides......Barritt has been a hit with England as was Mike Catt.


No big names have left our shores and qualified to play for another side......CJ Stander will be the first with Ireland, Strauss will do the same with Scotland.


Most of the players that used to leave were past their prime......that trend has now changed and we will see many talented young players end up playing for other countries.


With the likes of say Willemse off in France, chances are we might see him playing for France in 3 years time, much like a whole host of young stars. We never used to lose them young, we do now.......it used to only be the has beens that went north

HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
04 Jun 2015, 15:28
#18
04 Jun 2015, 15:28#18
 Josh Strauss is all about thinking outside the box
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Jun 2015, 02:31
#19
05 Jun 2015, 02:31#19
...thinking outside the beard?  
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,285 posts
05 Jun 2015, 02:33
#20
05 Jun 2015, 02:33#20
He was all about thinking at the Lions and look where that got him
DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
05 Jun 2015, 10:55
#21
05 Jun 2015, 10:55#21
You have a very big mouth for someone who punts so many rejects Saffy . 
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