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Keohane - has he got it rright for a change?

Started by clevermike98 REPLIES1,317 VIEWS· 01 Feb 2017, 11:41
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Feb 2017, 13:00
#81
04 Feb 2017, 13:00#81
Great post DA. Only quibble is with qualified pastors part. Any moron going about his pastoral duties in this fashion is in no way biblically qualified. If you doubt that read the New Testament. I am surprised Cloudy didn't call you out on this!!  Perhaps she thinks they were qualified!!! 
TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
04 Feb 2017, 13:46
#82
04 Feb 2017, 13:46#82
 @yawn/traditionalist- why don't you also move overseas- you don't seem very happy in SA. .

Quite a lot of SAns are unhappy with their rugby team and yet are unable to accept the termination of rugby as a fitting outcome.
TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
04 Feb 2017, 13:48
#83
04 Feb 2017, 13:48#83
 Some of your material sounds like it could be used in x-files- and other conspiracy comedies.

Then many business decisions would be material for x files and other conspiracy comedies.
TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
04 Feb 2017, 13:57
#84
04 Feb 2017, 13:57#84
 

What about the other minister who was gifted a farm and who left all her animals on her farm for weeks without food or water, and they all suffered a horrendous death, as reported on Carte Blanche



Excellent men are known for their cruelty to animals. Animal life has taken quite a hit under excellent men's rule as they are nothing but something to destroy.


This minister is nothing to single out but for his quality as an excellent person, who excells in the art of destruction.

Excellent men should welcome him as a brother. Of course, if excellent men were not racist...

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
04 Feb 2017, 14:15
#85
04 Feb 2017, 14:15#85
 How about the minister from last year, who complained publicly about our water crisis that the white people built all the catchment dams too big... long ago, so it takes too long to fill up these big dams with water, and that the clever white people should have made all the dams smaller so they could fill up quicker when it rains.

Dams may be too big indeed.

Sooner or later, it will growingly appear that little to no technology was transferred to SA.

What happened was the duplication of some technology suitable for a certain environment. People knew how to do in certain situations, and applied the same solution in other situations, regardless of the inadequacy of the solution.
In the doing, they helped to improve their proficiency in the solution they duplicated.
And decreased the opportunity a suitable solution can be brought to SA.

SA, as any place in the world, need technological answers to its problems. Not technological answers to others' problems.

So here is the solution in SA:

Improper solutions were applied. They helped the destruction of the environment, as wished by excellent men.
Now SA is stuck with improper solutions, resources were squandered on those solutions, the knowledge of proper solutions is missing and even if the knowledge was there, the resources to materialize the solution are not there.

Things are going to be very hard in SA.
TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
04 Feb 2017, 14:37
#86
04 Feb 2017, 14:37#86
 

To blame all the white people today for what happened with apartheid, when many of those same white people were totally against apartheid, is like blaming all the current German people today for what Hitler did to the Jews, when thousands of those same German people hid thousands of those same Jews away, and helping them escape death, whilst facing a certain death sentence themselves if caught.



The situation does not compare.


German people have had to shoulder the burden of the past. They are still commonly associated to nazis, have had to compensate victims of nazism and their descendants. People involved in nazi activity were prosecuted and did not get away with some kind of parody of justice like that reconciliation stuff.


German people would have it way better if they had been treated the same way as it happened in SA.



On another note, the apartheid regime took as a ground for legitimacy a way larger base than their actual base. They claimed to act on the behalf of white people as a whole, on a mission to promote and protect white people.


This kind of association was illegitimate but can not be dismissed as easily.

One point is that the apartheid regime was supported by other nations, some of which elected their government to be their representatives.


This sort of forced association appear less forced when they are backed by representatives.


Third, the apartheid regime was ended when it met its point of unsustainability. In other words, it died its natural death.



Usually, people who demand to be dissociated also demand that muslims demonstrate after an attack to show their opposition. Yet when looked at, the representation and deputation in the muslim case are less, much less. Muslims act by their interpretation of their god's words, and not for other men. Second, they also have no representative assembly to gain legitimacy.



sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,261 posts
04 Feb 2017, 17:22
#87
04 Feb 2017, 17:22#87
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,261 posts
04 Feb 2017, 17:23
#88
04 Feb 2017, 17:23#88
 
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
04 Feb 2017, 21:39
#89
04 Feb 2017, 21:39#89
 Do not ever point out mistakes that the black population make because that is racist.

The issue is those mistakes (if the word is suitable) are emphasized as essential when they are by all measures secondary.

It is the same as for corruption. Calling out corruption as the cause for failure dismisses the fact that other places are also corrupted and succeed despite their corruption.

People all around the world hold irrational beliefs. This at all levels. Politicians everywhere have irrational beliefs.

People who suffer diseases also commonly nurture irrational beliefs.
Yet in the case of black people (and some others) those are fronted as a cause for failure.

It makes no sense as other areas succeed while bathing in corruption and irrational beliefs.

Now another question is to see how things can be done. Ill people treatment demand drugs. They might be knowledgeable about their disease: without drugs, they cant be treated. Irrational beliefs or not.

You could educate a population in making drugs: without the resources to manufacture drugs, they could host no irrational beliefs and not be corrupted, no drugs would be made.

The question of the resources is essential: where are the resources to support a SA middle class, a population of proficient people, going to come from?
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,261 posts
04 Feb 2017, 23:45
#90
04 Feb 2017, 23:45#90
@Stupid
Have you heard of secondary and tertiary sectors ?

Sectors of the economy | Economics Helpwww.economicshelp.org/blog/12436/concepts/sectors-economy/
"Primary sector – extraction of raw materials – mining, fishing and agriculture. 
Secondary / manufacturing sector – concerned with producing finished goods, e.g. factories making toys, cars, food, and clothes. 
Service / 'tertiarysector – concerned with offering intangible goods and services to consumers.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
04 Feb 2017, 23:59
#91
04 Feb 2017, 23:59#91
@Sharkbok. Don't feed the troll.
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Feb 2017, 02:45
#92
05 Feb 2017, 02:45#92
 "German people have had to shoulder the burden of the past. They are still commonly associated to nazis, have had to compensate victims of nazism and their descendants. People involved in nazi activity were prosecuted and did not get away with some kind of parody of justice like that reconciliation stuff."
Really, the German's are still associated with the Nazis. Holy damn Batman! I tell you the world is full of such surprising facts.
Umm, I think the death camps of WW2 were slightly worse than apartheid. Wasnt the death toll around 4 000 000 for WW2? Really, and there was no amnesty for the Nazis?   Gee whiz genius.
How many whites have been murdered by blacks since apartheid ended? And how many more times is that number bigger than the amount of black people murdered by whites during apartheid? 
And again I ask you, what are you doing here? You know dick about rugby, don't like rugby and yet you want us all to pay attention to you. 



DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
05 Feb 2017, 20:37
#93
05 Feb 2017, 20:37#93
And in the news today:
No surprise
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Feb 2017, 21:24
#94
05 Feb 2017, 21:24#94
I saw that DA. but one thing is certain the British are waking up fast now. PC bull  is being denounced like never before. Trum*p has given the people courage to tell these globalist to get lost. There is huge anger building.
See my posts on Beeno's Trump*etc . Trump proposed ambassador has slammed into Juncker and company. Great read.
TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
07 Feb 2017, 13:44
#95
07 Feb 2017, 13:44#95
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-4195742/China-promotes-traditional-medicine-combat-AIDS.html
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
07 Feb 2017, 20:41
#96
07 Feb 2017, 20:41#96
Oh God. Well China have developed many useful traditional remedies in the past so if anyone was gonna gonna come up with something useful my guess it would be them. 
Africa's answer...Doom in the face  bwhahhaha
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Feb 2017, 21:59
#97
07 Feb 2017, 21:59#97
 Here come the witch-doctors. Toenail of bat, breath of toad.......
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Feb 2017, 00:59
#98
08 Feb 2017, 00:59#98
Anyone got some string for my crystal? Free chakra cleansing for all enlightened souls.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,261 posts
08 Feb 2017, 01:15
#99
08 Feb 2017, 01:15#99
 
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