17 May 2015, 15:58#41
Conservatives are, as Sharkbok said, an old boy's club. But one thing I can't stand with a huge group of working class people is that they moan who wins the election after not voting. Personally I voted Labour but there needs to be huge changes in the NHS, not necessarily privatisation of it but there needs something to be down for those who take advantage of it. Whether stopping individual's who take advantage of the free medicine that's not a necessity for the individual or for those who go to the Hospital for a day out because their lives are so boring. The only way the NHS is going to be saved is if they start taxing people for it.
17 May 2015, 17:09#42
Shezza, you do realise that Labour started the part privatisation of the Hospitals during Blair/Brown's tenure ? Cost the taxpayer millions in schemes like Hinchingbrooke and they gave the green light to GP's to make a heck of a lot of money for only working 9-5, Monday's to Friday's. That's left us with part of the crisis we are in with regards our marvellous NHS.....that and too many people wanting to use and abuse the service. They are also happy to sign the country up to the TTPI agreement which will see most of health service privatised. Take a look at how many of the Labour politicians of the recent past and of the present, who are on the Board of the companies that have won the contracts for services to health service products of late as well. And tax is already paid for the use of the NHS. It is just that someone would never pay enough in their lifetime to fund a cancer treatment, say, or long term illness....but some folk are never ill and pay in all their lives. What has been the case since '97, has been the massive influx of extra people, the amount of people coming in solely to use the service and then monies are never recouped, the huge amount of people who never pay any monies in tax yet take out plenty, the poor usage of funds such as unnecessary breast operations ( not those due to ill health, for example ), laser removal of tattoos, multiple IVF....the list goes on. And, let's not forget the downright abuse of funds by NHS staff themselves. It's a huge mess that needs clearing up....but it is not the Sacred Cow that the Labour Party would have everyone believe it is.
As for players who assault women and are still playing International and Club Rugby in NZ, I think I can name Julian Savea, Cloudy. As a female, I would have thought you would not appreciate that kind of behaviour ? I have stated, Tuilagi deserves all he gets and it has been acted on. If he never plays for England again, that would be fine. As it would be for any other player in the England team acting in any way similarly. They do not get to behave like that and not face consequences. It's simple. Danny Care was drunk and caught urinating in public, cautioned, and was caught slightly over the limit whilst driving. He too was dealt with...he didn't play for England for about a year and has never fully reclaimed his place. Remind me who was drunk and smashed up a car or two at Heathrow after they lost a match ? Drunk and attacked some tourists/wedding party ( can't recall ) whilst stark naked ? Drunk and missed an important flight ? Lots of other drinking related issues as I recall, but I suppose that's just jolly japes !
And, as for Australia. Well, best not go there....
MOMozart
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17 May 2015, 17:51#43
Let's not forget Dallaglio

sharkbok
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17 May 2015, 18:38#45
Has anyone forgotten Mike Tindel's Stag do, also known as the 2011 World Cup.
England were seen out on the town every night having the time of their lives throwing dwarves, geting totally drunk and slobbering allover every unfortunate women that happen in the bars.
Then their was also the fiasco when Chris Ashton had sexual assault charges from a staff member working at the hotel. Their were a host of other charges laid as well against other team members for being abusive to staff members at the hotel, and just generally just being a nuisance.All the negative stuff at the tournament was only from the English from what I recall.
The English football hooligans cause more problems than all other countries put together at football tournaments- especially when getting knocked out the tournaments early which is most of the time.
18 May 2015, 09:45#46
Anyone mention dwarf throwing?