Moz...

We seem to be finding ourselves on opposing sides more and more lately. It's coincidental I asure you. Please forgive the odd snotty remark, but I suspect and expect you would rather hand it back with interest. Have fun!
Cut Mike a bit of slack, I am worried you might drive him too far.

Haha Draad, Mike is up at 2 in the morning replying to Moz to protect us poor ignorant souls who can't think for ourselves from exposure to any anti-Mike propaganda. I think the obsession is irreversible

 Yes Pakie, and fun to watch, but sometimes it turns a nasty and ugly...no fun to be had there.

 Agree Draad ou maaaike is getting very virulent at times and it cuts both ways also.Time these two grumppy old men lighten up. No need to br that mean. They cant be enjoying it.

 Pakie
I have always been a bad sleeper and lately even more so.  It presents a problem - because it cause hassles later on in the day when I tend to fall asleep at the wrong times.
It may be the result of advancing age.  Probably the most famous documented example of that is the Russian Field Marshall Kutuzov who had the rather dubious record of falling asleep during Council of War meetings and who could not sleep during the night.  The most infamous example is Mugabe - who regularly falls asleep at meetings - yet never loses his viciousness - whether awake or asleep.
Incidentally the story is that Kutuzov may have pretended to be asleep because he was sick and tired of the nonsense spoken at meetings by mostly German and Austrian generals.  Maybe so - but recorded history does not support that viewpoint.  Maybe I am kept awake by all the hogwash written by others on the site.  
       

Moffie's spiteful, childish and vitriolic attacks on ou Maaik have dragged this board down to a similar level to when he was on his obsessive "I-am-a-quarter-of-an-inch-taller-than-Dave" crusade.

I often have the same problem, more a symptom of a restless mind and thinking too much than advancing age I think. At least I hope it's not advancing age, I'm not sure I'm ready for that yet  

 

 Well it's nice to get the input from the ....er former....correspondent at the Roar. 

But yes Mike might pop a valve, so for one experimental day I will set the computer back to 2012, when I started up on a then dead site and welcomed many of you chaps on Board.

So Mike what do you want to talk about?

 Well it's nice to get the input from the ....er former....correspondent at the Roar. 

But yes Mike might pop a valve, so for one experimental day I will set the computer back to 2012, when I started up on a then dead site and welcomed many of you chaps on Board.

So Mike what do you want to talk about?

 As long as we can have reasonable differences on issues without getting vindictive - that would suit me fine.  Always for a peaceful Board with vigorous diferences of opinion debated Without references to personal issues.  
I still do support certain players and not others and so do you.  That difference will never be sttled - bu it can be done with exopression of strong views without falling back on personal issues.      

Well! well done to Draad for setting the parameters for peace...an almost impossible task of two ageing and angry "young" men who are always waving their walking sticks at each other and are totally irreconcilable due to Morne Steyn, Matfield and Frans Steyn ( and Alberts)...shall we call you Kiesinger of this forum?

Reminds me of Macbeth...thank goodness they live so far from each other and prevents a dastardly deed being done

Methought I heard a voice cry 'Sleep no more!
Macbeth does murder sleep', the innocent sleep,
Sleep that knits up the ravell'd sleeve of care,
The death of each day's life, sore labour's bath,
Balm of hurt minds, great nature's second course,
Chief nourisher in life's feast,--