I always thought "Clever " Mike had some private communications with this lad. Hell didn't he claim to have met Tomas during some tournament. That seemed to corroborate the whole thing. But if that was the case wouldn't the OOm have spotted the use of English issue? Ah well maybe not, he isn't the sharpest pencil in the box. Still he seems to have come to terms with the possibility this was a scam.
Blobbok
Sodra ek sien dat hierdie ou 'n item self begin met rugby inhoud - en nie net sit en soek om kommentaar te prober lewer op iets wat ek op hierdie program skryf en dan met 'n tirade daaroor begin - sal ek my opinie oor hierdie ou verander.
Totdat dit gebeur sal ek nie my opinie oor hom verander nie en is hy werklik kak.
Is dit duidelik genoeg in Afrikaans?
Ceradyne
En wat as jy kak praat - ek was eenkeer verkeerd oor Bakkies en die end hoor ek nooit., Jy kruip soos 'n slang in in 'n item vir Fantasie spelers en begin weer oor Bakkies te skryf. Jy neem nie deel daarin nie - te slapgat daarvoor - so Sause moes jou stop.
Elke keer as ek iets skryf oor die arme Morne Steyn kry jy 'n oorval en begin jy kak praat,
Ek het aangedui wat jy kan doen om 'n waardevolle lid ban hierdie forum te wees. Dit is definitief nie om net te soek om iets wat ek geskryf te kry en dan daaroor te skree soos 'b hoer nie. Neem deel aan all rugby-beskrywings en as hy verskil gee rugby redes daarvoor en nie beledigings nie. Verstaan jy nou wat ek bedoel?
Soos jy nou optree is jy 'n lae lid van 'n vrot familie - poephol van die wereld is jy.
This remains a problem for decent members of this forum. I said it before and am saying it again - that some of the members of this site makes the site unacceptable for decent people to post on.
Some of us do identify the poisonous snakes among us and learn to accept that they will be around - but others like Ole Cruz have not learnt that. I have nothing but respect for most of the forum members - even when I differ from them - but there is a problem here and that us the members like poi-e and ceradyne - whose only function on this site is to cause damage and mount personal attacks on other members.
I think the best we can do is to -
* learn from what happened in this case; and
* ignore what they post on site; and
* hope that they would realise that whatever they write will be dealt with as poison and that their membership are pointless - thus ridding ourselves from them in the longer run.
Let me be blunt - we lost massively in this case and they got what they wanted all along and that is to destroy anything good there may be on site.
I would start by identifying two of these members - poi-e and ceradyne, Other members may be able to identify others as well. So lets unite against the poison and make sure the skunks get lost on their own.
Saffex
Just one question - What was presented as evidence by the poison bitch? Nothing. I wonder about the audacity of some people. But Chippo dealt with this issue very comprehensively and we know what the situation really is.
I personally think the Editor should clean up the members of this site and get rid of the real shit stirrers who make no rugby contribution and use this forum only as a means to launch personal attacks on reputable site members.
If the present situation is allowed to continue - we could end up like the BZ members did - no site at all to post on.
Nuikfreekiwi
With respect - the discussion started last week 0 after the return of Matfield to play again., It did not start three weeks ago and I am sure the ED could not foresee what followed, I agree he should perhps have acted earlier - but the management of this site is very patient with behaviour of some posters and allows he maximum of leeway.
I also respect the input of the ED and there were many examples of inputs from Tomas that indicated his authenticity - inputs that only a person with inside knowledge could have made.
I believe to hound a site member about his personal info as was done in this case is despicable and I would not mind if the member concerned be banned from site membership.. If it happened to Tomas - because he was honest and admitted after some pressure from this side to his identity - it could happen to other site members as well.
We really do not need troublemakers like poi-e and ceradyne on this site, There are others like that around - but they do not go to excesses like those two.
Rugby debate is an essential element for this site - personal agendae is NOT
Nuikfreekiwi
With respect - the discussion started last week 0 after the return of Matfield to play again., It did not start three weeks ago and I am sure the ED could not foresee what followed, I agree he should perhps have acted earlier - but the management of this site is very patient with behaviour of some posters and allows he maximum of leeway.
I also respect the input of the ED and there were many examples of inputs from Tomas that indicated his authenticity - inputs that only a person with inside knowledge could have made.
I believe to hound a site member about his personal info as was done in this case is despicable and I would not mind if the member concerned be banned from site membership.. If it happened to Tomas - because he was honest and admitted after some pressure from this side to his identity - it could happen to other site members as well.
We really do not need troublemakers like poi-e and ceradyne on this site, There are others like that around - but they do not go to excesses like those two.
Rugby debate is an essential element for this site - personal agendae is NOT
Just a pity that you said this yesterday OOM:
"OK - Lets summarise this one
Ole Cruz claimed he was Tomas and he may have taken all of us foir a ride in that regard."
As the person who was most involved in initially corroborating Cruz, that was a major capitulation.
Mozart
I did not have the facts I have today and it was not a capitalization - do you understand English!!!! What does the word MAY mean in thus context???? It say "he may" and not "he has" - that is a fact.
You are known to distort things beyond comprehension and quote things totally out of context and was also one of the main detractors in this case - so I would shut my trap if I were you.
Blokbok
Maybe I am a bit harsh on the ceradyne case - but if a member is privately hounded by a member then it is just not acceptable. I think that type of thing should be discouraged/forbidden and a member who did it should be send packing.
The cradynes and boklogics we will always have on the site - I am prepared to live with that - but I cannot live with a stalker like the poison bitch we are dealing with here.