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OZ versus wee abs offical thread

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
19 Oct 2013, 12:35
#81
19 Oct 2013, 12:35#81
 no doubt aussi media will take aim at joubert think hes reffed his last game involving the wallabies.... all 50/.50 calls without fail go to AIGs....  we know its rigged but spectacle was at least decent tonite....
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Oct 2013, 12:37
#82
19 Oct 2013, 12:37#82
 Wobblies are back to playing Oz rugby and coach must be happy.I agree a little more mongrel in the pack would help. You will get away with what you have against the wee abs but not the Boks.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Oct 2013, 12:37
#83
19 Oct 2013, 12:37#83
 Thanks Mike for some sensible analysis, very refreshing
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Oct 2013, 12:38
#84
19 Oct 2013, 12:38#84
Hopefully some action is taken. It would be a warnimng to other ref in pocket nz refs.Lets get them out of the game. 
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
19 Oct 2013, 12:39
#85
19 Oct 2013, 12:39#85
 signing off to watch cricket.......... anyway all things considered more positives than negatives but team on a build vs old team peaking at the wrong time....  thats for sure
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
19 Oct 2013, 12:42
#86
19 Oct 2013, 12:42#86
 reds neck and beanhead  have no hope of being gracious winners where the ABS are concerned so they may as well try to be gracious losers god knows they have heaps of chances to practice !
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Oct 2013, 12:43
#87
19 Oct 2013, 12:43#87
Yes Draad  Joubert is weak and partial - who will forget his handing the WC to an outplayed ab side!!!!. But is was indeed an entertaining game to watch with some fine backline moves. Hope Meyer was watching closely.Ou maaaikie understands the scoreboard but not much more.
waped dud, black udder and company have been badly shaken.  The honest truth is the wobblies had the better of this AWAY game.
End of Story
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
19 Oct 2013, 12:45
#88
19 Oct 2013, 12:45#88
 yes go and watch India beat an unbeatable total with 4 overs to spare that will be icing on the loser cake !
3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
19 Oct 2013, 12:46
#89
19 Oct 2013, 12:46#89
 Oh you bok fan's need to get over this ref thing it's getting old, it was a great game played by one great team and one good team, no one outplayed each other, the abs dominated the first half, and it was Wallabies in the 2nd. As usual though the Ab's defense was supieor and the Abs were more proficient.
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
19 Oct 2013, 12:49
#90
19 Oct 2013, 12:49#90

 hahaahahaha couldnt resist one last read... Cloudy - low expectations were actually exceeded and Im confident the Aussies are a team on the build lots to like about Folau / Toomua / Kirandrani / QC.... I thought the Tongan connection from the Tahs looked good in 2nd half forward pack - but Timani needs to throw his serious weight around a bit more - hed be devastating.... All in all - good game - few shocking decisions but in due fairness probably AIGs would have still got there.... later....

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
19 Oct 2013, 12:50
#91
19 Oct 2013, 12:50#91
 Hey  beanhead what was the score in all the ABS vs boks games the last 4 years ? you do realize that to win you need to score more points ? its not a talent show where you win by phoning in votes ? even then if only saffas and aussies got a vote you lot would still struggle ,and you have been saying the same old crap for 4 years !All the losingness must have utterly wrecked your wee brain dingus .
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Oct 2013, 12:51
#92
19 Oct 2013, 12:51#92

 "As usual though the Ab's defense was supieor and the Abs were more proficient."

 

 

Well said.

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
19 Oct 2013, 12:53
#93
19 Oct 2013, 12:53#93
woohoo, congrats mighty mighty All Blacks, i love how how even though the All Blacks feilded their weakest team of the year, its still by international standards a ranked No1 team, only NZ can do this and no one else,

All Blacks skill level is light years ahead of everyone else, and im confident were heading towards a 100% season, how much is that going to hurt the masses???

best comment of the day was from marto, considering the score, the wallabies really won, LMAO,

i know it sounds stupid cos it is stupid, but marto and brother beeno have a lot in common, losing is actually winning if u lose against the All Blacks.
the sad pitiful face of mediocrity and their laughable excuses helping the victims of the All Black sleep better at night,

thank u once more All Blacks for doing what other teams can only dream oh, kia mau,

GO THE MIGHTY MIGHTY ALL BLACKS!!!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:03
#94
19 Oct 2013, 13:03#94
 Sasuke San: I will down load the game and see if it is ozzie commentary, always good for a laugh. 
I watched the game with Kiwi commentary and as usual Marshall bending over backwards to satisfy the international audience and fuel the "its the refs fault" bad sports.
Glad ABs won it but even a game as good as this one doesn't seem as good after seeing the ABs v Boks game a couple of weeks ago.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:06
#95
19 Oct 2013, 13:06#95
 By far the best performance in a dismal by Oz and by far the worst performance by the AB's this year. My guess is that the Wallabies have things to prove and on that basis found plenty of motivation whereas for the AB's....well...
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:10
#96
19 Oct 2013, 13:10#96
Cloudster please get a grip. You are sounding like warped dud and black udder!!!!Ou maaaikie possibly didnt see the game.

Surely Cloudy you can see how badly the abs were outplayed particualry in the second half. Had a few passes stuck the Wobbliers could have beaten the wee abs comfortably.
Beeno simply stating the obvious.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:14
#97
19 Oct 2013, 13:14#97
No excuses for the abs please denny they had the game at home, a ref biased in their favour and they won by 8 in front of a passionate crowd. The abs were doing their very best but were under the wobblies pump.
How many tries did the Wobblies leave out there. Watch out for them in 2014.

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:19
#98
19 Oct 2013, 13:19#98

 No excuses needed Beans....AB's won didn't they?....may I remind you that's all they needed to do.

 

 

Hasta La Vista...sweet Bean.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:22
#99
19 Oct 2013, 13:22#99
 Never liked Joubert, but Ozz just made too many mistakes to beat NZ. Good effort though. 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:23
#100
19 Oct 2013, 13:23#100
Denny I warned the bulle a couple of seasons ago to hoots of derision their wins were not based on real substance and couldnt last. They didnt.Likewise the wee abs. They are looking more and more fragile - they were severely under the pump and the wobblies won the second half hands down. bwahahahahahaha
Roll on 2014. 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:26
#101
19 Oct 2013, 13:26#101
Denny I warned the bulle a couple of seasons ago to hoots of derision their wins were not based on real substance and couldnt last. They didnt.Likewise the wee abs. They are looking more and more fragile - they were severely under the pump and the wobblies won the second half hands down. bwahahahahahaha
Roll on 2014. 
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:26
#102
19 Oct 2013, 13:26#102
All Blacks undefeated against the Boks and wallabies for the last two years, fantastic effort,
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:30
#103
19 Oct 2013, 13:30#103
french x 2
wallabies x 3
Boks x 2

and after the All blacks dine on some sushi in two weeks time, its time for the one match the All Blacks have wanted more then any other,,,

McCaw - " FE FI FO FUM, I SMELL THE BLOOD OF AN ENGLISHMAN, BE HE ALIVE OR BE HE DEAD, ILLL GRIND HIS BONES TO MAKE MY 100% WIN RECORD,
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:32
#104
19 Oct 2013, 13:32#104
Denny I warned the bulle a couple of seasons ago to hoots of derision their wins were not based on real substance and couldnt last. They didnt.Likewise the wee abs. They are looking more and more fragile - they were severely under the pump and the wobblies won the second half hands down. bwahahahahahaha
Roll on 2014. 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:34
#105
19 Oct 2013, 13:34#105
 sorry for repeats but internet playing up.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:35
#106
19 Oct 2013, 13:35#106

Beeno

 

Ultimately the scoreboard tells the final story and that was what I reflected above.

 

First of all my analysis was correct.   I am not saying the AB's are not beatable - they are, but you have to have the necessary combination to do that and the analysis are a follows:-

 

*   Your tight five needs to have the edge on the AB's - not entirely impossible and that has been proven during the series.   An important role is to ensure that line out play is secure and that you do not lose line-outs and secure some of theirs.  But for the line-outs the Springbok did that and also the Pumas in the first half of the tests specifically.   The Wallabies were weakfish and not good enough.

 

*   Their loosies need to be restraint and you need to ensure that the opposition has the right loosie combination is played against them.   You need a multi-faceted loosie combination and here the Aussies was competitive - the Pumas did reasonably well for the first half of their games - and the Springboks to a very limited extent, they never really were  competitive.

 

*   The backline situation is a bit of a quandary.   The AB's looks good in attack - but to an extent their defences are not solid enough.   Defence is not the good points of either Cruden or Barrett, whilst Nonu's are mostly limited to illegal tackles.   I think even Ben Smith's defence is questionable - he definitely is not a 13 and needs to be played on the wing or at full back.

 

I think you should stop moaning about the referee.   I think on the whole Joubert had a reasonable game and there really was only one incident where I think he was wrong.  That was when the Wallabies used the rolling maul near the AB line - Joubert shouted "use it" when the maul stopped - but then the maul started going forward again, which to my mind represented "use it" and whilst the Wallabies still had possession and the ball in play - he awarded a scrum to the AB's.   Frankly think he was wrong in that case - but the situation to blame the referee for unfavourable results is not on - unless it was a case where the referee was blatantly incompetent, as was the case with Poite and Bryce Lawrence.  

 

 

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:38
#107
19 Oct 2013, 13:38#107
i felt sorry for beteham, when the aussie natonal anthem was playing he was crying and i could hear him mumbling under his breath, i dont even wanna be a walaby, i should be playing for my country of birth NZ, sob,

its ok beteheam, no more facing the All Blacks, so u can just go hard from now.
aussies need all the help they can get, cos thyre not the sharpest tools in the shed, and the more kiwis we can send over to help them, the better,
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:41
#108
19 Oct 2013, 13:41#108
 Cloudy...it seems like Beans is getting to you. I've known Beans for a very long time, he's harmless really.....but a shytestirrer yes. There's nothing personal in how he trades on here so don't make the mistake that many do by taking him seriously. A bit of smart wit in response would fix our devious friend.
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:43
#109
19 Oct 2013, 13:43#109
@beeno1 aka storminged,

roll on 2014??? i agree 100%

2013 for NZ rugby
spXV title
les bleu whitewash
wallabies whtewash
bledisloe cup
freedom cup
RC/4nats trophy

like i said, i agree 100%, roll on 2014 so that we can do it all over again,
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:51
#110
19 Oct 2013, 13:51#110
 NZders are constantly complaining about sore losers and rightly so,  but I wonder how they would handle things if the shoe was on the other foot. And no, I'm not talking about the odd loss here and there. 
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:56
#111
19 Oct 2013, 13:56#111
 
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Oct 2013, 13:58
#112
19 Oct 2013, 13:58#112
 Cloudy, ATM you are supporting the best team on the planet.  Enjoy it while it lasts. Nothing is forever. I gnore the bitter balls in the meantime. 
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
19 Oct 2013, 14:03
#113
19 Oct 2013, 14:03#113
 this Test was more about avoiding a "banana peel slip" than to see how good the Wallabies are! The Wallabies are ALWAYS good. Now here is where the true Tests begin - Japan, France, and then especially (sorry Becs ) England as they are very good - probably better than the Boks as they are the only Team to have beaten the ABs. They deserve to be Number 2.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Oct 2013, 14:06
#114
19 Oct 2013, 14:06#114
 Nagwa, England is not that good. They got lucky last year. You lot will put 20 on them this year.
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
19 Oct 2013, 14:08
#115
19 Oct 2013, 14:08#115
 We respect ALL Teams DbDraad. We learn more from our loses than the wins.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Oct 2013, 14:11
#116
19 Oct 2013, 14:11#116
 Then you don't learn a lot.  :)
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Oct 2013, 14:16
#117
19 Oct 2013, 14:16#117
Methinks the wee ab fans are getting all bitter Draad because one points out the wobblies gave them a solid going over in that second half.Ou maaaikie please try and understand had Joubert not pinged that Oz rolling maul the could have scored. He also pinged Oz more than once in error as the commentators noted.Then we had Oz being incredibly unforunate not get a couple more tries. Oz camped in the abs 22 a lot of the second half and dominated territory and possession.So the wee abs escaped again with a most foruitous win. Then I am supposed to say the abs are a great tream. Hahahahahahahhaha
Now they want to get all mean at poor Beeno for pointing out the obvious. Hilarious stuff fro the kiwi bird brains   
Sorry kiwis but face facts you got pumped by the Wobblies and that the scoreboard doesnt reflect it is a complete travesty - much like last Saturday - but this cannot possibly last. No wonder Horwill was bitterly disappointed. As a player he knows the wobblies were on top.Now please wipe away the tears and enjoy another most fortuitous win.

HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
19 Oct 2013, 14:17
#118
19 Oct 2013, 14:17#118
 hey Cloudy , was nervous about this one as mentally it is abit of a dead rubber. The Test does prove several things though1. Cruden deserves to be 1st Choice 5/8.2. Smith did not really stand out at in the centres.3. Extra pushups for those backs on the left who did not support Messam on his run.4. Next time continue watch for those Tomua's show and run and Folau's usual AFL jumps.
Watched a play from the QLD Reds playbook that almost resulted in a try - MAYBE, the ABs can add that to their repatoire 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Oct 2013, 14:21
#119
19 Oct 2013, 14:21#119
 Hey hahahahakwa did you enjoy the hahahahahahaka? Some demented looking oaks doing it.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Oct 2013, 14:22
#120
19 Oct 2013, 14:22#120
 Beeno: now, now, just tell the therapist all about it. She will make it better Benno.
 Uhmm, seems like it will take some time to get you back to reality, lol
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